Lee vs Ayala

[HawkMachine]

So I was at the huge tournament at Benton Community on Saturday as my boy was wrestling.

We were talking about Ayala and he thought him and Lee would be a good match.

I told him that Lee would handle him easily. He thought I was crazy.

What say you Hawkeye fans?

 

[IRONBIRD]

Not for nothing, but I am pretty certain that right now. No one can give Lee a match! I believe his toughest competition would have come from the Ivy Leagues. With them out, he may very well Tech or pin his way through, and I am not certain he wouldn't have anyway.

 

[thom67]

So I was at the huge tournament at Benton Community on Saturday as my boy was wrestling.

We were talking about Ayala and he thought him and Lee would be a good match.

I told him that Lee would handle him easily. He thought I was crazy.

What say you Hawkeye fans?

Lee by TF or pin. Maybe 1st period.

 

[TJHall1]

So I was at the huge tournament at Benton Community on Saturday as my boy was wrestling.

We were talking about Ayala and he thought him and Lee would be a good match.

I told him that Lee would handle him easily. He thought I was crazy.

What say you Hawkeye fans?

Your son is crazy

 

[CurtisLoew40]

Oh good lord we're talking about a guy who should be three time NCAA champ already, who never redshirted, and a hodge trophy winner. He TFs or pins him in the first but hey if he's better than Spencer then he should start next year and push Spencer to 133 lol.

 

[Fluffles]

It would be a very close match.

 

[texas twister]

We were talking about Ayala and he thought him and Lee would be a good match.

I told him that Lee would handle him easily. He thought I was crazy.

What say you Hawkeye fans?

I'm hoping your boy is correct. (not holding my breath)

 

[HawkMachine]

The reason I posted the question is because I told him I would ask the question online.

 

[SPOONER]

Ayala wouldn’t last a full period.

 

[Grip220]

Ok I like Ayala, he has some great skills a good motor and he seems to be stronger then the eye test. I also do believe he becomes a great Hawkeye. That said, there are about 3-4 maybe 5 guys in the US at 125/57kg that can give Spencer a “good match” currently and Ayala is not one of them yet. Check the last two tournaments SL wrestled in for details.

 

[WDMHawk72]

Lee is a once in a generation wrestler. Glad we have him for 2 more years. Maybe after a couple years in the room with SL Ayala will narrow the gap. But its not a gap now. Its a canyon

 

[IAChief32]

Lee is a once in a generation wrestler. Glad we have him for 2 more years. Maybe after a couple years in the room with SL Ayala will narrow the gap. But its not a gap now. Its a canyon

Motherf*ckin’ canyon so wide, Evil Knievel couldn’t jump it. This is not a slight on Ayala at all either but just speaks to how good Lee is.

 

[UndercoverHawk]

Motherf*ckin’ canyon so wide, Evil Knievel couldn’t jump it. This is not a slight on Ayala at all either but just speaks to how good Lee is.

It’s almost like saying yea that Sadulaev is pretty good but we got this guy named Bo Nickal coming in that’s a top prospect

 

[IAChief32]

It’s almost like saying yea that Sadulaev is pretty good but we got this guy named Bo Nickal coming in that’s a top prospect

Yup...After a few years in the room, I expect Ayala to be able to hang. But nothing wrong with the OP’s son looking up to Ayala like that. At his level, a worthy dude to emulate.

 

[js8793]

Reminds me of back in high school trying to explain to some teammates that Sadulaev would easily destroy our former fargo champ teammate. There are levels to this lol.

 

[el dub]

Motherf*ckin’ canyon so wide, Evil Knievel couldn’t jump it. This is not a slight on Ayala at all either but just speaks to how good Lee is.

I remember that day. And it seemed like Evil pulled the ripcord immediately after launch, if’n I remember correctly... lol

 

[RonaldMexico]

Not for nothing, but I am pretty certain that right now. No one can give Lee a match! I believe his toughest competition would have come from the Ivy Leagues. With them out, he may very well Tech or pin his way through, and I am not certain he wouldn't have anyway.

If Fix or Suriano got down to 125, it would be a match. Spencer still wins, but it is a match.

 

[MepoDawg#]

I’ll respond just to say that isn’t worth responding to.

 

[el dub]

If Fix or Suriano got down to 125, they might slow him down a bit. Spencer still throttles them but it takes a bit longer than usual.

FIFF lol

 

[bammhawk1]

It’s almost like saying yea that Sadulaev is pretty good but we got this guy named Bo Nickal coming in that’s a top prospect

F’in Nickal. Hes the 1 guy I was hoping that someone would of dropped him after a match. Would of loved to of seen it.

 

[UndercoverHawk]

F’in Nickal. Hes the 1 guy I was hoping that someone would of dropped him after a match. Would of loved to of seen it.

Just tried to pick an upper weight not named Kyle Snyder that had NCAA success in recent memory. That’s who I came up with.

 

[Inthecircle]

What matters is Ayala’s mindset. I like His attitude.

 

[Spoons]

I was there also was a fun and day of some really good wrestling. While Ayala is on a different level than any Iowa high school wrestler he is Not Spencer or in his league yet. Do I think he has potential to be a Great Hawkeye, Yes I do!!! But Spencer is one of those kids that is a generational talent. That's not a slam on Ayala or anybody else its just a fact. Spencer could easily end up on a Mt. Rushmore of wrestling when his career is over can you say that about Ayala yet????? With that being said I do believe Ayala is the type of wrestler that can win 2 or 3 National titles just not like Spencer can and there is nothing wrong with that.

I might add his little brother impressed me as well he was the 8 seed at a tournament with 7 ranked wrestlers from all 3 classes and he came home 3rd. 106 lber what Waukee is someone to keep your eye on as well he won it from the 3 seed and took out #1 in 2A easily. Just don't know if he will get big enough for the next level.

Also how does West Del. have 29 JV kids on their team?????

 

[SPGroth]

Also how does West Del. have 29 JV kids on their team?????

And West Delaware's JV team could likely give many varsity teams a great dual.

 

[Scryed]

Ayala by major dec

 

[SPOONER]

I was there also was a fun and day of some really good wrestling. While Ayala is on a different level than any Iowa high school wrestler he is Not Spencer or in his league yet. Do I think he has potential to be a Great Hawkeye, Yes I do!!! But Spencer is one of those kids that is a generational talent. That's not a slam on Ayala or anybody else its just a fact. Spencer could easily end up on a Mt. Rushmore of wrestling when his career is over can you say that about Ayala yet????? With that being said I do believe Ayala is the type of wrestler that can win 2 or 3 National titles just not like Spencer can and there is nothing wrong with that.

I might add his little brother impressed me as well he was the 8 seed at a tournament with 7 ranked wrestlers from all 3 classes and he came home 3rd. 106 lber what Waukee is someone to keep your eye on as well he won it from the 3 seed and took out #1 in 2A easily. Just don't know if he will get big enough for the next level.

Also how does West Del. have 29 JV kids on their team?????

The Waukee kid a freshman? How would one know now that he won't be big enough in 4+ years?

29 JV means 44 on the roster. Doesn't seem crazy for a good sized school in a wrestling town. There are smaller schools out there with rosters just as big or bigger.

 

[TJHall1]

Isn't his little bro a freshman? How would one know now that he won't be big enough in 4+ years?

29 JV means 44 on the roster. Doesn't seem crazy for a good sized school in a wrestling town. There are smaller schools out there with rosters just as big or bigger.

He's not talking about his brother being too small.

 

[just_somebody]

Ayala by major dec

Ayala would just have to survive into the third, where everybody knows that Spencer gasses

 

[ibahwkfan]

I was there also was a fun and day of some really good wrestling. While Ayala is on a different level than any Iowa high school wrestler he is Not Spencer or in his league yet. Do I think he has potential to be a Great Hawkeye, Yes I do!!! But Spencer is one of those kids that is a generational talent. That's not a slam on Ayala or anybody else its just a fact. Spencer could easily end up on a Mt. Rushmore of wrestling when his career is over can you say that about Ayala yet????? With that being said I do believe Ayala is the type of wrestler that can win 2 or 3 National titles just not like Spencer can and there is nothing wrong with that.

I might add his little brother impressed me as well he was the 8 seed at a tournament with 7 ranked wrestlers from all 3 classes and he came home 3rd. 106 lber what Waukee is someone to keep your eye on as well he won it from the 3 seed and took out #1 in 2A easily. Just don't know if he will get big enough for the next level.

Also how does West Del. have 29 JV kids on their team?????

If you're implying that Freeman will be too small you're dead wrong. I'm fairly certain he's coming down from 116-118 and he's 15 years old. I could easily see him go 106, 120, 132, 138 in HS. Having said that I think the lightest he'll be in college is a 141. And yes, he's head and shoulders above all the other freshman in Iowa this year. He'll pin or tech everyone with the exception of Kurtz from IC High and that's at least a major more than likely more than that.

 

[SPOONER]

He's not talking about his brother being too small.

Thanks. Doesn't change the point but I fixed it.

 

[Lsanders20]

The Waukee kid a freshman? How would one know now that he won't be big enough in 4+ years?

29 JV means 44 on the roster. Doesn't seem crazy for a good sized school in a wrestling town. There are smaller schools out there with rosters just as big or bigger.

Does this take into account female wrestlers? Lots of girls giving it a shot lately. Either way that is an impressive number for a school of that size. Good news for the sport.

 

[Scryed]

Ayala would just have to survive into the third, where every knows that Spencer gasses

Heh.. sounds like a solid strategy for drake. Tire Lee out from bottom in period 1 and 2 then throw the sink at him in the 3rd period 😅🤣😂

 

[TJHall1]

Thanks. Doesn't change the point but I fixed it.

In his post he says he doesn't know if he'll be big enough. He doesn't say he won't be big enough. What's so hard to understand about that?

 

[Rustys Dad]

Ayala is definitely a tremendous talent ... but Lee is on another level ... (think Alabama vs. Ohio State)

 

[Hawkfan019]

The version of Spencer as a senior in high school would probably come close to teching Ayala. Senior year of College Spencer would finish the match in 90 seconds. Freestyle would be 30-40 seconds.

 

[el dub]

To put things in perspective....

This would be similar to a match between Batman and Robin. They’re both good guys, but sheesh....

 

[Ozzy4335]

And West Delaware's JV team could likely give many varsity teams a great dual.

A few years back I remember SEP sending their "JV Team" to Varsity tournements and winning them.

 

[IA_Hawk81]

And West Delaware's JV team could likely give many varsity teams a great dual.

I went to WD. We always had a lot of JV wrestlers. Most weights were pretty deep. Lot's of champions at the fresh/soph level when we traveled.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

I think Ayala could be a NCAA Champ at some point but even take his best of that year and Spencer still likely majors him. Spencer is good enough to pin or bonus other past NCAA champs and future 125 champs after him once they hit Freestyle.

But right now. I wouldn't wish that on any HS kid. I mean Ayala would have problems staying off his back or ever escaping Cory Clark..let alone Spencer.

 

[Grip220]

I went to WD. We always had a lot of JV wrestlers. Most weights were pretty deep. Lot's of champions at the fresh/soph level when we traveled.

I wish more HS were like this