Leg wrestling sucks.
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I have always thought if the bottom guy gets to his feet and the top guy has a leg in, the top guy should be called for stalling if he does not take the leg out and try to return his opponent back to the mat.
Especially when the top guy also has a foot on the mat. That is just bad officiating plain and simple.
I guess I don't understand what rule says it isn't stalling. But I don't always know the rules.
It is just the opposite of what you guys are thinking:
If the bottom guy stands up when the top wrestler has a leg in it is a stalemate the 1st time, stalling on bottom the 2nd time it happens.
If the top wrestler throws a leg in after the bottom wrestler has stood up it is a stalemate the 1st time, stalling on top the 2nd time it happens.
Rule 5.9 Stalling
SITUATION 4:
Wrestler A has legs on Wrestler B. Wrestler B stands up with
the legs still in. The referee stops the match for a stalemate. Wrestler A again
applies the legs on Wrestler B while on the mat. Wrestler B again stands up.
QUESTION:
Who should be called for stalling?
RULING:
Wrestler B should be called for stalling for repeatedly standing up to break a legal move.
If the bottom guy stands up when the top wrestler has a leg in it is a stalemate the 1st time, stalling on bottom the 2nd time it happens.
If the top wrestler throws a leg in after the bottom wrestler has stood up it is a stalemate the 1st time, stalling on top the 2nd time it happens.
Rule 5.9 Stalling
SITUATION 4:
Wrestler A has legs on Wrestler B. Wrestler B stands up with
the legs still in. The referee stops the match for a stalemate. Wrestler A again
applies the legs on Wrestler B while on the mat. Wrestler B again stands up.
QUESTION:
Who should be called for stalling?
RULING:
Wrestler B should be called for stalling for repeatedly standing up to break a legal move.
Thanks for clarifying the rule. But holy hell us that a dumb one. So a guy stands up whole being ridden, the top guy can't return him to the mat so it is stalling on bottom? How bad is that? Right up there with calling stalling on a guy pushing the other one out.
It is not the leg riding really. It is that the majority of wrestlers not really trying to pin. The guys that really try to pin, I mean really try, get
Pins. Too much riding.
I remember as a kid being told the best ride is a pinning combination. You can burn a lot of clock and score a lot of points if you really push for a fall.
Pins. Too much riding.
I remember as a kid being told the best ride is a pinning combination. You can burn a lot of clock and score a lot of points if you really push for a fall.
I agree with this - I don't mind a guy throwing legs in but yes if a guy gets to his feet hanging on for the stalemate is crap
If a guy is able to stand up on you with the legs in, you're not doing a very good ride anyway. Personally, I believe the top guy should have to return the bottom guy to that mat. Treat it the same way as holding onto a leg. 5 count and a stall warning.
I don't understand the verbiage "breaking a legal move". Isn't that what you're always trying to do? If I'm in a cradle, aren't I trying to break the grip and get out? If I'm underneath, aren't I trying to clear the hands and get away? If you're on your feet aren't you trying to get out of disadvantageous ties?
Agree, but not a penalty point, that still allows for the escape point on top of it. Just award the escape point, and reset at center in neutral.
Same goes for dropping down and hanging on the ankle, when the bottom guy gets up and seperation.
I think we discussed this about a week ago on here. What jammies posted is the rule, but I agree with most of you that it is a bad rule. It is the bottom man's job to work to escape or reverse. It is the top man's job to turn/pin. A top man who is just hanging on is stalling. In any other situation, it is stalling on top for not returning the bottom man when he stands up. A leg in shouldn't make a difference. The rules committee needs to change the rule. And while they're at it, get rid of riding time, imo.
As opposed to watching someone spiral ride an entire period with absolutely no chance of turning the opponent? I was a legger & had success with it. You can use legs to transition to pinning combinations, you can also get back points (as the Minny guy did yesterday) to actually win a match with a score better than 2-1 or 3-1. To say it is boring, well, at least there was some scoring from the top man. How often do we see an entire period of the top guy just 'riding' with no chance of turning the guy? I think you are being short-sighted leggers.
Now, I do agree that putting in the legs when the bottom man gets to his feet is stalling. I will admit, I did it when I had to. No one's perfect, right?
So should this:
That still has to sting. All I know is Gilman had Lizak on his back far longer than Lizak had Gilman...and Lizak had over 4 minutes of RT. What does that say?
That still has to sting. All I know is Gilman had Lizak on his back far longer than Lizak had Gilman...and Lizak had over 4 minutes of RT. What does that say?
Parallel riding with leg and no upper body work in just seems lame. Add in Hands to the face... lamesauce ultimate redundancy by the rules not being enforced. Ref 2.0?
