Let us pretend OiT is just an average liberal democrat, or moderate

[ottumwan in tx]

Or moderate repubber, or some sort of independent. Or a non voter. Let us say this: I'm totally non political and a non voter and I really hate politics. Lets pretend. Let us say I just go through life watching tv, CNN, msnbc, {which I do not , I have no cable} and I listen to the news, read papers, go to work, come home, kick the dog, kiss the wife, watch football, watch the good wife. Whatever. Just an average Joe.

I do not go to church. I think that Obama got elected by a majority, and he means well. Lets pretend. And I didn't really vote for him but I support him. I didn't vote.

What I don't think I could possibly understand or get my mind around is this: Lets also pretend I thought bin laden and al q did 9-11 and Obama was a hero and threw him overboard himself, wrapped in some sort of prayer rug. Lets pretend. So what I could not probably understand, could not possibly understand, if I were an average joe, is this: Why on earth do reporters call this new group of terrorists, "ISIS", and the prez calls them, "ISIL", and I think he's my hero by the way and I like him, we are pretending.... and why one earth has nobody wiped these dudes out yet and thrown them overboard? Where's my hero when I need him?

There are a lot of reasonable people here on hrot, please explain this to a very rational and average joe, btw I support mizzou and black lives matter and I drive a prius and I think man is ruining the earth. I support all these by watching on tv and posting on facebook of course, but that's my support. Please help me and explain all this?? !!

 

[SSG T]

The L in the second one stands for Levant, which is in the same area. It just includes Syria, parts of Iraq, Lebanon, parts of Jordan, Israel. Honestly, in that sense, the ISIL that Obama uses is actually more correct for their goals.

 

[naturalmwa]

Google it, there are lots of sources that will explain how the Arabic words translate into neither English phrase exactly. ISIS is cleaner to English speakers, but the group itself is not limited to Syria nor trying to be. Levant covers the region they want better, but ISIL doesn't roll off the tongue as well. Language is complex and translating makes it more so. The average joe probably understands this already.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

The L in the second one stands for Levant, which is in the same area. It just includes Syria, parts of Iraq, Lebanon, parts of Jordan, Israel. Honestly, in that sense, the ISIL that Obama uses is actually more correct for their goals.

exactly I know this as standard oit, but it might confuse average joe prius driving oit

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Google it, there are lots of sources that will explain how the Arabic words translate into neither English phrase exactly. ISIS is cleaner to English speakers, but the group itself is not limited to Syria nor trying to be. Levant covers the region they want better, but ISIL doesn't roll off the tongue as well. Language is complex and translating makes it more so. The average joe probably understands this already.

btw average joe wants to know why in the same interview, with stephanappapus sitting right in front of my hero Obama, stephy can say in one sentence ISIS and Obama my hero insists on answering the question and using isil right in front of me on my tv, my hero and stephy, same sitting, no editing. and, has my hero ever uttered isis as a word?

 

[stout1]

I like to pretend OIT is an ice dancer doing an interpretative ice dance of my life.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

see standard oit knows the reason: isil means the levant which means the muslims conquered Israel and the jews, I know this, standard oit knows this, but prius driving oit does not even think Israel exists as a country anyway, so this confuses him. so let us move on to the next question: why has nobody wiped these guy out yet? we could have saved a lot of beheadings and a lot of French people. and an attempt on some lives in tx where a muhammed cartoon contest was ongoing.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I like to pretend OIT is an ice dancer doing an interpretative ice dance of my life.

the prius driving oit might be able to do this in skinny jeans and all

 

[naturalmwa]

btw average joe wants to know why in the same interview, with stephanappapus sitting right in front of my hero Obama, stephy can say in one sentence ISIS and Obama my hero insists on answering the question and using isil right in front of me on my tv, my hero and stephy, same sitting, no editing. and, has my hero ever uttered isis as a word?

Why is this hard? I call it a phone, my mom says the line, my grandpa calls it the horn and properly it's a telephone. It's all the same thing. There isn't a conspiracy. Now if you translated that into Arabic, what words do you think you would come up with?

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Google it, there are lots of sources that will explain how the Arabic words translate into neither English phrase exactly. ISIS is cleaner to English speakers, but the group itself is not limited to Syria nor trying to be. Levant covers the region they want better, but ISIL doesn't roll off the tongue as well. Language is complex and translating makes it more so. The average joe probably understands this already.

by the way, this is lame as heck and that is coming from average joe prius driving skinny jeans oit

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Why is this hard? I call it a phone, my mom says the line, my grandpa calls it the horn and properly it's a telephone. It's all the same thing. There isn't a conspiracy. Now if you translated that into Arabic, what words do you think you would come up with?

because you and I know that Obama means levant as in the muslims conquered Israel, it's a dig at Israel, you know this, it's a dig, but skinny jeans oit thinks a lot like natural and most rational people and thinks it's just because out east people call it a carriage and in texas they call it a shopping cart. the skinny jeans prius driver in me knows it rolls of the tongue better, yes I agree. carry on then, answer the second question: why have we not gone in there with my hero Obama and all the military and drones and worm viruses and electronic attacks and wiped these clowns out? why have we not destroyed them with social media yet?

 

[naturalmwa]

by the way, this is lame as heck and that is coming from average joe prius driving skinny jeans oit

Average things are lame by definition.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Average things are lame by definition.

yeah that's true, and it does roll off my hero's {forked} tongue. I love how he speaks. hee hee

but seriously, standard oit knows exactly why we have not wiped these clowns out, but liberal oit who thinks support of an issue is through facebook, cannot understand it all.

I guess my hero took 8 years to get bin laden after bush could not, so I guess maybe I should be patient for about 6 more years, maybe I shall go to facebook and tell everyone to wait six years. hang on france. oh, I heard Britain is next. wait, I did not hear that at all, standard oit heard that on alex jones' show. I don't know who alex is.

 

[naturalmwa]

because you and I know that Obama means levant as in the muslims conquered Israel, it's a dig at Israel, you know this, it's a dig, but skinny jeans oit thinks a lot like natural and most rational people and thinks it's just because out east people call it a carriage and in texas they call it a shopping cart. the skinny jeans prius driver in me knows it rolls of the tongue better, yes I agree. carry on then, answer the second question: why have we not gone in there with my hero Obama and all the military and drones and worm viruses and electronic attacks and wiped these clowns out? why have we not destroyed them with social media yet?

Or it's a sign of respect to Israel properly identifying their place in the risk. By calling them ISIS you exclude Israel and hence try to diminish the threat they are under. You now hate Israel.

See how easy that argument is to make?

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I bet ten bucks I'm gonna hit up starbucks tomorrow and they have the tri-color coffee cups in support of france. That will make me feel awesome.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Or it's a sign of respect to Israel properly identifying their place in the risk. By calling them ISIS you exclude Israel and hence try to diminish the threat they are under. You now hate Israel.

See how easy that argument is to make?

skinny jeans oit likes it though.

 

[naturalmwa]

skinny jeans oit likes it though.

Skinny Jeans are an abomination. Got any theories on them? I figure the illuminati rolled them out to depress birth rates.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I dunno but they are taking over Austin, that's for sure. that and the Taliban beard. what I call it anyway, a big bushy beard. I really kind of figured you would like the jeans, natural. I guess it depends on who is wearing them

 

[naturalmwa]

I dunno but they are taking over Austin, that's for sure. that and the Taliban beard. what I call it anyway, a big bushy beard. I really kind of figured you would like the jeans, natural. I guess it depends on who is wearing them

They are a pain to get off and their goods are always a mess. The beard however can be a fun accessory to use.