Everyone seems pretty sold on Keegan, and he certainly shows promise. I'll have to say though, there's a BIG difference from being a solid role player and being THE man when everybody game plans for you every night. Jim Jackson talked about that some in the game yesterday about how much he had watched Luka mature into THE guy, who knew he had to carry the water every night.
Looking ahead... refuse to sulk
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Now run back the numbers and account for YOY teams.
You know how many coaches have been at thier school 10 years or more that have never won a conference tournament, regular season or made it to the sweet 16?
5.
You know how many have done that at a p5 and still have the job?
1. Our ****ing guy.
Our AD, and fans, enable mediocrity.
You know how many programs have kept a guy for 20+ years at a P5 that isn't going to make the hall of fame because his winning percentage disqualifies him unless he is given an exception?
Me either, but we sure as shit have one and there can't be many.
Where’s the dislike button?
You probably ought to find a different school because you are never going to get what you want at Iowa. We are either a coaching carousel always in search of real mediocrity (like 6-6, 7-5 territory) or a long term mid range P5 team.
That is the best argument for a diminished Connor role with the team. Everyone will have to be able to score. I don't think Iowa's offense will have a volume scorer (Luka) or even a volume shooter (Dev Marble).
Who are the guys who don't belong on a B10 basketball scholarship?
Someone has to take on more of a scoring role, and until they're out in that position and have some experience, you really don't know who that guy is, or what they're really capable of until they get some run in real action.
It could be Ulis, Perkins, Kris Murray. Hard to say, but they are all young and someone will have to emerge. That's not really new for College athletics, you just have to wait and see who has it and who doesn't.
I must be missing something... Where is Joe W going!?! Most certainly NOT the NBA. Show me one mock draft with Joe W on it? Ok, ok...I got lazy and only looked up the first 4 on Google.
I think that Ulis is much more skilled than most realize. My best guess is that, if he gets approximately half of the PG minutes, we will all be pretty pleased with his play....if he is a smooth operator, adequate scorer, decent defender then we will have high level PG play that promotes the unselfish yet effective level of play that we want.
I love Joe T and how dynamic he is......if he can find his game that limits turnovers and is an effective scorer (by that I mean a person who just takes advantage of his opportunities) we will be in pretty good shape.
its interesting to look back to the 2019-2020 season. Joe T was our starting PG and Iowa was heading to the NCAA Tournament. And then covid shut everything down.
This season Joe played and had an up and down season. Ahron did not see much playing time.
It will be interesting to see how this Toussaint/Ulis battle plays out next season
I think the Joe T drop off happened because of his lack of playing time, which also killed his confidence. Early in the season, he was getting good minutes and playing very well. Hell, he diced up Gonzaga.
Potential Starting 5:
1 Joe T was our starter in March, 2020 and that team was headed to the NCAA Tournament
2 CJF--hopefully he comes back healthy
3 Weezy or PMac
4 Connor/Keegan
5 Jack--he deserves some good juck
I don't have a dog in this fight but I think I thought he was screwtheclowns before this name? Had the same profile picture anyway
I sure hope our best player next year (if Weezy isn’t back) is in the starting 5. Even Fran has to realize how much more Keegan brings. Definitely has earned the right to start.
I think our lineup looks solid. Especially throw in a good amount of Perkins as the 1st man off the bench. We should be better than expected.
????? I think you mean his son Connor! Joe T needs to start and should've late this year too!
I don't understand the reasoning for Keegan on the bench, particularly if Wieskamp is gone. Keegan is not just an energy guy like Baer, who was an energetic efficient spark off the bench. Murray brings that but he's also extremely talented and could end up being the best NBA prospect under Fran. He should get those starting minutes.
I thought so. Just remembered your profile pic being the same and that name disappeared.
Fran should be all over the portal for a PG/Combo and a Center NOW
I've found the key to happiness as an Iowa fan the last 30+ years is low expectations. A very entertaining season ended as I expected and naturally there was a lot of disappointment, and maybe I missed it but I didn't see anyone blame the team's failures on wokeness like a significant amount of douchebags did on the football board after the 0-2 start. I appreciate that, there's a few guys who pretend to be experts on bball that clearly don't know much but the basketball crowd is a much coolor group as a whole IMO
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The traditional positions will continue to be blurry.
CJF: Heavy Minutes
Keegan: Heavy Minutes
PMac: Heavy Minutes
Nunge: Should be heavy minutes, but so many injuries. We will need his length, shot blocking and 3 point shooting. He does not possess much girth though, some matchups will be challenging.
Joe T: Should be moderate to heavy minutes. I love the fire that he plays with but he is so sporadic at the PG spot. I hope he can improve his shooting and decision making.
Guys that will move up the minutes list, but how far?
Perkins: His moxie, defense and athleticism will make it difficult to keep him off the court. He is probably our 6th man at the very least. If he can improve his shooting? Maybe a starter???
Ahron Ulis: I have been very vocal about how he is a pure point guard and extremely smooth. He should get solid backup PG minutes, and outside shot at the starting role.
Kris Murray: Kind of a wildcard, but he clearly will see some of the biggest increases given he barely played. Probably 10-15 minutes per game.
Guys who will have a role, but likely very limited
Josh: his size is incredible, he has tons of potential. This offseason will be ultra key. Likely spot minutes.
Sandfort: Given our loss of shooters, might see some action early. Likely spot minutes.
Overall: Our athleticism increases nicely, though we lost low post play and 3 point shooting. Defense will be much better. I feel like our full court press could really be a weapon versus just a shot clock tactic.
CJF: Heavy Minutes
Keegan: Heavy Minutes
PMac: Heavy Minutes
Nunge: Should be heavy minutes, but so many injuries. We will need his length, shot blocking and 3 point shooting. He does not possess much girth though, some matchups will be challenging.
Joe T: Should be moderate to heavy minutes. I love the fire that he plays with but he is so sporadic at the PG spot. I hope he can improve his shooting and decision making.
Guys that will move up the minutes list, but how far?
Perkins: His moxie, defense and athleticism will make it difficult to keep him off the court. He is probably our 6th man at the very least. If he can improve his shooting? Maybe a starter???
Ahron Ulis: I have been very vocal about how he is a pure point guard and extremely smooth. He should get solid backup PG minutes, and outside shot at the starting role.
Kris Murray: Kind of a wildcard, but he clearly will see some of the biggest increases given he barely played. Probably 10-15 minutes per game.
Guys who will have a role, but likely very limited
Josh: his size is incredible, he has tons of potential. This offseason will be ultra key. Likely spot minutes.
Sandfort: Given our loss of shooters, might see some action early. Likely spot minutes.
Overall: Our athleticism increases nicely, though we lost low post play and 3 point shooting. Defense will be much better. I feel like our full court press could really be a weapon versus just a shot clock tactic.
Yes, like with any player let's see where time and development lead him. But if people expect him to be a high-efficiency, high volume scorer next year and he's not that, it's doesn't mean he sucks. He will get some points by hanging out around the basket and running the floor, like he did this year. Can he improve the 29% from 3-point range? That's the key. If his jumper is more consistent, it unlocks all the other aspects of his game.
He was already one year older than most college freshman this year due to going the prep school route. Bright future, and I certainly hope he is a great player. But let's see where a year of progression takes him.
I think you are likely correct here. I hope CJF can play heavy minutes, but he has yet to make it through a season without significant injury issues. Nunge, hopefully can give Iowa 20+ minutes a game, but again, can't be counted on. It's going to be a really interesting off-season. Iowa really needs a transfer big guy, and a transfer guard wouldn't hurt either.
Next year Fran has to manage the minutes of C.J. and Jack. We don't need those 2 injured before the Big Ten season begins.
I get that most on here don't give Josh O much of a chance to see significant minutes but that may change if Fran doesn't add another big.
If Fran ignores the risk of Jack going down again, Josh will be playing a lot and one way or another, Josh will be a major contributor or a major bust.
I get that most on here don't give Josh O much of a chance to see significant minutes but that may change if Fran doesn't add another big.
If Fran ignores the risk of Jack going down again, Josh will be playing a lot and one way or another, Josh will be a major contributor or a major bust.
He's got to be careful not to hit his head on the rim.BREAKING NEWS
Keegan is special.
His hops are insane. Can't wait for next year/season.
He's got to be careful not to hit his head on the rim.
can't wait to see Kris' hops at the 3/4
If you think Joe "can't dribble" seeing might not be your thing.
His handle could be better but he's way more effective with the ball than any of Iowas starters were this year.
He could but I'm not sure he can help it enough to get drafted even with another year.
BirdistheWord
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good point on CJF, his injuries have not been as severe as Nunge but we will need him to stay healthy. Maybe 25 minutes per game max.
Ulis was a 4 star point guard and just a freshman so what the hell are you talking about? We haven't seen enough of him or Toussaint to honestly know but the defense and athleticism of those 2 and Perkins is light years better than what we just had leave.
BirdistheWord
HB Legend
And...a TRUE freshman, with minimal prep due to COVID. Same with Perkins, guy has some raw talent.
Toussaint is a bit of a roller coaster but if he can tighten up his game even somewhat, he can be valuable his next two years.
Side note: Look back at that debacle class of '15 with Wagner, Hutton, Fleming, etc. We are light years better going forward...
BirdistheWord
HB Legend
Keegan MUST start no matter what. I am nervous about our 3 point shooting.
Guys like Ulis and Perkins may not start but should see significant minutes.
Our back court consisting of Joe, Uhlis, Perkins, and CJ will be pretty good next year. I don't think we need a grad transfer here at all. Pat, Keegan, and Kris at the wings will also be pretty good. If Joe comes back, really good. If Fran needs to bring someone in, it's at Center. I'm not sure Jack can stay healthy and effective all year, nor Josh ready to contribute much next year. Another Center would go a long ways to get Nunge and Josh ready for the next year. Personally, I like our team next year, and I think we will make the NCAA's again.
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