Lost Team Point
- Thread starter ginormous.headed.circus.midget
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Rivera being Rivera. The guy is a joke who doesn’t deserve a whistle.
I just said it’ll be a good day when he retires. Yeah Angel, we know you’re out there. Here to watch the wrestlers though. Douche.
What a joke of a call but I guess instead of a tech fall, SL will have to pin to make up the difference.
Tom comes on the edge of the mat AFTER its conclusion to congratulate his wrestler...and gets dinged for a team point. #FacePalm
Tom needs to give the shoes he's wearing back to Mickey Mouse. Yellow shoes on a black mat provides a contrast that can't easily be missed...
(kidding with the first half...the second half does have some truth to it though)
(kidding with the first half...the second half does have some truth to it though)
I’m usually reasonable with the refs because I know it’s a difficult job, but this guy deserves a pink slip.
Angel Rivera should never be allowed to ref in Carver again.
Angel should be held accountable. Don’t want to see him at B1Gs or NCAAs.
Intermission and no interruption to the event. Just a spite call.
reminds me of TV Ted Valentine, always trying to be the star when reffing a basketball game
Yeah, he was on the yellow shaking his wrestlers hand. Rivera is a rum and a terrible official.
That's the guy that turned his back on one of the players, right? like faced out into the crowd?
It was intermission, therefore he could be anywhere he wanted to be.
And fix your horrific grammar / punctuation so we don't have to guess at what you're trying to say.
No one is looking for perfection, but . . . good grief.
I am sure he was in a rush to finish his message. Mom was telling him no more computer tonight.
It was AFTER the fifth match, which means the dual was in intermission. How is that losing mat control?
Control of the mat area rule.As a coach you can not come on the mat at all during or after the match.This is the 2nd or 3rd year of the rule.Across wrestling it's known as the Tom Brands rule.As everybody who watches Iowa wrestling has seen in the past Tom will find himself in the middle of the mat at times.The NCAA decided nothing good can come of that and made a rule for it
Grace and Ironside said after the intermission that the penalty point was against Big Cass for shoving tOSU heavy after the match in retaliation for some egregious act. They were highly critical of Rivera throughout the night.
It is always possible they were mistaken about the penalty. Mark occasionally misses the last 30 seconds of action when he goes psychotic.
It is always possible they were mistaken about the penalty. Mark occasionally misses the last 30 seconds of action when he goes psychotic.
Tom admitted in the post match interview that the team point deduction was the result of him walking into the mat to congratulate Cass.
It was going into intermission and he wasn't coming out to be confrontational, he was coming out to congratulate his wrestler. Not always a fan of TNT's antics but I truly believe there are very few refs out there that would deduct a team point for that.
I feel like Tom is covering for the Big Smile on this one. That's what coaches do. Good leaders. They don't go all oranges and say that their wrestlers were at 7-11 working last week.
If the penalty was on Cass, wouldn’t it have been an unsportsmanlike call instead of the “Loss of mat control” which was announced over the P.A.
Maybe ol Angel thought he'd just be a dick, and it wouldn't matter for the dual result so he wouldn't really have to answer for it.
Yeah, if you have a history with an official you should probably control your actions because you can assume if you violate a rule you’ll get dinged.
Frankly, as bad as Rivera appears to be, when you have a coach who is always trying to assert himself I don’t blame an official for cutting them zero slack.
Questionable judgement on both their parts but no Bad intentions on Tom’s part. Angel should have passed on the point deduction and just reminded coach of the rules. Not much to see here...
Yep, intent should be a part of the equation, IMO. But in the Grand Scheme of things, no biggie.
There's no way to measure "intent." You can't say "I broke the rule but I didn't mean to." You broke the rule or you didn't. I've ref'd before (never wrestling) and Rivera had to decide on some really borderline calls.
I think he was right on Lugo and Brands calls but really questionable on several others.
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