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Lulz at these Cops

The driver was wrong, I think.

Depending on the state, he has to give his driver's license and proof of insurance.

Then again, I'm not a lawyer. @Jimmy McGill
I don't think they can demand license and insurance if they pull you over for not committing an actual crime.

And "improper hand display" is not a crime in this case.
 
I don't think they can demand license and insurance if they pull you over for not committing an actual crime.

I think cops can, depending on the state.

In Maryland, there are sobriety checkpoints and drivers have to give cops a drivers license and proof of insurance.
 
I believe a checkpoint is a bit different than lighting up a singular vehicle and initiating a traffic stop on said vehicle.

I just texted this to my attorney. I'll let HBOT know if he responds:

"Can police pull over a driver if the driver gives the police the middle finger?"
 
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With all professions......there are good ones and bad ones. We have a good one here in @Hawkman98

The difference from other professions is that a bad LEO can seriously f' up someone's life
Too often the problem isn't one bad cop. When one cop decides to pull over the guy who flipped them off, the other needs to have the judgment to say no. I can understand the loyalty dynamic involved in the types of situations that are required of LEOs. But there has to be better training (or something) to help trigger a recognition of inappropriate or illegal behavior that leads to a sound professional response.
 
Too often the problem isn't one bad cop. When one cop decides to pull over the guy who flipped them off, the other needs to have the judgment to say no. I can understand the loyalty dynamic involved in the types of situations that are required of LEOs. But there has to be better training (or something) to help trigger a recognition of inappropriate or illegal behavior that leads to a sound professional response.

Amen

Preach Neil Degrasse Tyson GIF
 
What type of law do you practice?
Mostly I lay the law down on your mom. When I get some free time from that, the firm I'm with does just about everything general practice but criminal defense and family law. My practice used to be more litigation heavy, but now it's mostly transactional work (real estate, contracts, estate work, etc.). Never had a criminal or civil rights practice per se, but I know enough to say these cops are not bright or good at their jobs.
 
Mostly I lay the law down on your mom. When I get some free time from that, the firm I'm with does just about everything general practice but criminal defense and family law. My practice used to be more litigation heavy, but now it's mostly transactional work (real estate, contracts, estate work, etc.). Never had a criminal or civil rights practice per se, but I know enough to say these cops are not bright or good at their jobs.

They were West Virginia cops, after all.
 
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Back when I was 19 or 20 years old we were back in Niceville for xmas break.
High school getting friends together that had gone to different unis.
My friend Neal was 6'6" and never seemed to have a problem bluffing a beer purchase picked us up a case. We'd just picked up the fourth friend in Bluewater and were heading toward Destin/beach to chill and chat up tourists. Going down White Point Rd. to the Mid-Bay bridge and Neal starts being his goofball self and flashing his lights and flicking off oncoming traffic (it was after dark). Third car he does it to turns on the blue lights and whips a 180'.
Shit.
My buddy in the back seat has his feet on the case, and none of us are 21. Fortunately we hadn't opened it yet, so the car didn't smell like beer.
Deputy comes up to the window and says, "I imagine you know why I pulled you over, you want to tell me what's going on?"
Neal says, "Sorry, just being silly, I didn't mean any harm."
Cop asks, "You sure there isn't anything else you want to tell me?"
"Well... I... I flicked you off."
"NO! I mean bad stuff!"
"No, sir."

Didn't even have us get out of the car. Ran his license and sent us on our way.

/csb
 
Bottom line, if LEO is pulling this B.S., we have too many LEOs.

When I was Magistrate, the Mayor of the largest town in the county had his son brought on board the Police Department. I had to throw out many cases, not only when he was caught lying, but on simple stupid stuff. Dumb as shit, but he thought he was smarter than Einstein.

I had a certain degree of leeway asking clarifying questions.


There a shit ton of people doing the job making 80K that only have a GED
 
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