MAGA!
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Polls are being used to influence voting behavior. They are intended to fuel the one on top and suppress the one on bottom.
It won’t work. Just like in 2016, Trump will prevail.
It won’t work. Just like in 2016, Trump will prevail.
Pure genius.
Where's Yang??
Oh yeah, locked in a 0 - 0 soccer style battle with Steyer...
Oh yeah, locked in a 0 - 0 soccer style battle with Steyer...
It is absolutely remarkable that no matter who Trump faces he will only get 42-44% of the vote.
Wake up! This isn’t a new concept.
The final poll from the Des Moines Register has been a critical, 11th-hour marker ahead of past caucuses. It has measured — and, in some cases, fed — a candidate's late momentum, whether positive or negative. The paper's final poll ahead of the 2008 caucuses led to a prolonged news cycle about Barack Obama's apparent surge on the eve of the vote, including measuring a wave of new caucus-goers poised to break turnout records and propel the then-Illinois senator to victory.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...oll-not-released-after-apparent-mishap-110284
How many times do we have to go over this? All of the polls were well within the margin of error leading up to the election, including the key battle ground states Trump barely won.
And no one knows for sure to what extent Comey's 11th hour announcement had on pushing Trump over the finish line.
Trump winning in 2020 is far from a foregone conclusion. Like I've said before, the Senate Republicans shutting down witnesses and evidence was the best thing to happen to Democrats. Because we all know more dirt is going to continue to get dug up on Trump.
At this point, the race is a toss up. A lot can happen in nine months.
Yes, and they didn't release the poll because of the f*** up.
I personally agree that polls are bad and used to manipulate the public. I don't think they should be conducted because of how influential they are. But let's be real here: When a Trump supporter posts a poll that looks favorably on Trump, no one questions it. It's only when a poll doesn't reflect well on Trump that its validity is challenged.
At this point, Trump's re-election chances are 50/50.
WikiLeaks have confirmed what many suspected all along – the Clinton campaign use bogus polling figures to convince their opponents they are losing badly, discouraging them from campaigning and voting in large numbers.
This well-worn Clinton campaign tactic continues to this day, as “weighted” and “adjusted” polls are released in an attempt to demoralize Trump support.
WikiLeaks have released clear proof that the Clinton machine used this tactic against Bernie Sanders in the primaries.
Real Clear Politics released a “weighted” and “adjusted” poll that had Clinton 21 points up heading into the Michigan primary. The Clinton campaign pushed the narrative that they had it won, but behind the scenes they knew it was actually a very close race.
However Democrats knew the poll was hugely misleading and only used for propaganda purposes. In private emails they reminded each other not to pay attention to the polls.
In fact, the Clinton campaign actually ordered lackeys to produce misleading polling figures using “oversampling.”
Not a single poll had Clinton leading Sanders by anything less than 5 points in the months before the primary. And what happened? Sanders beat her 50 percent to 48 percent.
The news is particularly important considering mainstream media are today announcing a 12 point poll lead for Clinton. 12 points sounds insurmountable. But is this a legitimate indication of the state of play in America right now?
Cast your mind back to the 21 point lead Clinton supposedly held over Sanders in Michigan. You want to bet the Clinton campaign aren’t up to their old tricks right now?
Past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior.
This well-worn Clinton campaign tactic continues to this day, as “weighted” and “adjusted” polls are released in an attempt to demoralize Trump support.
WikiLeaks have released clear proof that the Clinton machine used this tactic against Bernie Sanders in the primaries.
Real Clear Politics released a “weighted” and “adjusted” poll that had Clinton 21 points up heading into the Michigan primary. The Clinton campaign pushed the narrative that they had it won, but behind the scenes they knew it was actually a very close race.
However Democrats knew the poll was hugely misleading and only used for propaganda purposes. In private emails they reminded each other not to pay attention to the polls.
In fact, the Clinton campaign actually ordered lackeys to produce misleading polling figures using “oversampling.”
Not a single poll had Clinton leading Sanders by anything less than 5 points in the months before the primary. And what happened? Sanders beat her 50 percent to 48 percent.
The news is particularly important considering mainstream media are today announcing a 12 point poll lead for Clinton. 12 points sounds insurmountable. But is this a legitimate indication of the state of play in America right now?
Cast your mind back to the 21 point lead Clinton supposedly held over Sanders in Michigan. You want to bet the Clinton campaign aren’t up to their old tricks right now?
Past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior.
In alot of states where all their votes do nothing more than add to a larger win. CA,NY,NJ dems throw these polls into the worthless pile.
Where's Yang??
Actually, Yang had 5% of the votes in Iowa to Steyer’s 1. He won 7 precincts to Steyer’s 1 as well.
Also, most recent polling shows Yang up on Trump 54-46. Thanks for asking.
There's a lot of volatility in public opinion.
You seem very passionate about this issue.
Pin this.Actually, Yang had 5% of the votes in Iowa to Steyer’s 1. He won 7 precincts to Steyer’s 1 as well.
Also, most recent polling shows Yang up on Trump 54-46. Thanks for asking.
Now do the Clinton/Trump polls leading up to 2016
I remember folks saying Trump didn’t have a chance in hell.....
Absolutely.
When I see something that erudite and astute, I send a little kudos.
What, you don't think I'm some type of feckless d-bag, do you?
I am only passionate in the sense that we can all remember well when the media pounded the drum that Hillary was up BIG all through the 2016 campaign and many questioned the polls, and it turns out the polls were bull$hit.
I have linked breakdowns of the polls some funded by Hillarys campaign- then reported by the media nbc/wall street journal-where they fraudulently over sampled Hillary voters to get the desired results.
Polls are not to reflect public opinion but to shape public opinion.
Exactly. Just like those polls that had Bernie winning in Iowa were way off. Same goes for these New Hampshire polls. They all have Bernie winning. Everyone knows we aren't going to elect a communist like Bernie. Fake polls! Great point!
