why did I think he was walking on to play football at iowa?
Maybe thinking of Sam cook from FD?
why did I think he was walking on to play football at iowa?
Kaleb Young says ur wrong! Book it!It means the post he was commenting on was wrong and is poor example of Marcus.
Greatest kid, I mean he's one of the best kids. Trust me people. Other programs don't have kids as good as him and he'll make Iowa pay for the wall east of 35.
Who's the ISU recruit from Iowa who said the main reason he was going to ISU because wrestling there is so much fun o.r something like that --maybe it was wrestling practice. Always wondered if there was some sort of hidden meaning there. Think he will be a fr. in the fall, but can't remember who he was.why did I think he was walking on to play football at iowa?
Not sure. If he is even a little bit good Jackson will pull his redshirt, he'll get face mushed by an Iowa guy, then realize ISU isn't that fun, then go to Grand View.Who's the ISU recruit from Iowa who said the main reason he was going to ISU because wrestling there is so much fun o.r something like that --maybe it was wrestling practice. Always wondered if there was some sort of hidden meaning there. Think he will be a fr. in the fall, but can't remember who he was.
Except the level of talent in D-1 wrestling is has a very big dropoff after the top ten or so. It's not like MBB where you can have 25-30 damn good teams.I don't see Hall and Downey as borderline AA's. Weatherspoon, maybe, but I think he made the turn at the end of last season and will be a 4-8 candidate at 174. Also, all it takes to crack the top 10 is 3 AA's. Cornell, Nebraska, MI and Illinois rounded out the Top 10 and they all had 3 AA's. A healthy Moreno could score points, Larson should score a couple, Harrington/Colbray could make some noise at 197 if Downey is back down at 184.
Again, I didn't say they are going to set the world on fire. It's just that there is a big difference between the Top 4(Iowa, tOSU, PSU and OkState) and the rest. You perennial Iowa fans are so spoiled by that, that you see teams at ISU's current caliber as weak when they are actually better than 80+% of DI teams!
Except the level of talent in D-1 wrestling is has a very big dropoff after the top ten or so. It's not like MBB where you can have 25-30 damn good teams.
Except the level of talent in D-1 wrestling is has a very big dropoff after the top ten or so. It's not like MBB where you can have 25-30 damn good teams.
As laughable as this is, let's look at one major difference. Cael Sanderson > Kevin Jackson.Marcus is like Easy Ed he'll slow the roll in his favor. Too long, too strong. He'll win
Not to mention that Ed Ruth was a consensus top 10 recruit coming out of high school.As laughable as this is, let's look at one major difference. Cael Sanderson > Kevin Jackson.
Actually, I think Taylor would have had similar success no matter where he went to school. Some kids are just that good. Put Taylor and Ruth at just about any school in the nation and I think both kids end up multiple national champs.They are still blaming Cael for ruining there program. I'm sure many think David Taylor would have had the same success under Jackson had he stuck with ISU.
I'm sure youre right. Wrestling and being coached by one of the best wrestlers the US has ever produced didn't have much to do with their dominance. I knew Retherford, Nolf and Nickal were going to be good in college, but I never would have thought they'd be as dominate as they are. Everyone including me thought Destin McCauley was just that good too. I guess I have a hard time believing Taylor would have been as good at ISU or Campbell.Actually, I think Taylor would have had similar success no matter where he went to school. Some kids are just that good. Put Taylor and Ruth at just about any school in the nation and I think both kids end up multiple national champs.
I'm sure youre right. Wrestling and being coached by one of the best wrestlers the US has ever produced didn't have much to do with their dominance. I knew Retherford, Nolf and Nickal were going to be good in college, but I never would have thought they'd be as dominate as they are. Everyone including me thought Destin McCauley was just that good too. I guess I have a hard time believing Taylor would have been as good at ISU or Campbell.
Actually, I think Taylor would have had similar success no matter where he went to school. Some kids are just that good. Put Taylor and Ruth at just about any school in the nation and I think both kids end up multiple national champs.
Can you give us a list of all the Iowa guys he beat and the scores?Ed Ruth came in very talented however he made some big improvements in that room. From RS Freshman to RS Sophomore he was notably better and started majoring guys like Lofthouse who use to at least keep it close.
You really don't have to come defend the PSU coaching, FT. Most people realize, at least in Ruth's case, that there were tremendous improvements made while at Penn State. I think most people acknowledge that Taylor made noticeable improvements as well. How well either would have done elsewhere is pure speculation.Ed Ruth came in very talented however he made some big improvements in that room. From RS Freshman to RS Sophomore he was notably better and started majoring guys like Lofthouse who use to at least keep it close.
So you don't think under the right leadership or having the right mentor he could have broke some of those bad habits and lived up to his potential in D1? The point I was trying to make was yes David Taylor would have probably been good wherever he went. To suggest he and Ruth would have had the same or similar results under Jackson or any random coach seems absurd to me.McCauley success or lack of had nothing to do with where he went. He had bad habits, hung around with the wrong people and didn't like school. His first year at otc which would have been his red shirt year he was still sick. Beat tsirtsis and everyone else he would have before. Btw he has it together now. He won d2's and helping out with a club in Kearney.
He was goat status in kids. I think he was in like 4th or 5th grade and I saw him inside trip a HS Andrew long in practice.
I only have 1 season of data for Ed Ruth...Can you give us a list of all the Iowa guys he beat and the scores?
He beat Ethen Lofthouse about 34 times. There were a few other folks that beat Ethen too, however.Can you give us a list of all the Iowa guys he beat and the scores?
You're welcome to your opinion. It's no more legitimate or provable than mine. There are plenty of examples of studs who wrestled for unheralded programs but still won Nationals. Taylor and Ruth were phenomenal talents. I don't see what's so hard to believe about the concept that super studs like Taylor and Ruth could have dominated in a lesser program.I'm sure youre right. Wrestling and being coached by one of the best wrestlers the US has ever produced didn't have much to do with their dominance. I knew Retherford, Nolf and Nickal were going to be good in college, but I never would have thought they'd be as dominate as they are. Everyone including me thought Destin McCauley was just that good too. I guess I have a hard time believing Taylor would have been as good at ISU or Campbell.
You're welcome to your opinion. It's no more legitimate or provable than mine. There are plenty of examples of studs who wrestled for unheralded programs but still won Nationals. Taylor and Ruth were phenomenal talents. I don't see what's so hard to believe about the concept that super studs like Taylor and Ruth could have dominated in a lesser program.
I'm not trying to denigrate Cael's coaching. I've never said anything remotely close to implying that he can't coach. That said, his recruiting has been out of this world, to his credit, and when any coach brings in all-world studs, his job in the room automatically gets a lot easier. I'd say the same about Metcalf, if it makes you feel better. I think he could have gone to Gardner Webb and still dominated. That takes nothing away from Tom's coaching ability; Metcalf was just a machine, and he was going to win no matter where he went.
Feel free to disagree. Not at all a fan of the snarky attitude, though.