Marinelli or bust mentality!

[pumpdog20]

With the influx of more club teams sprouting in Iowa, I think the HS scene is about to pick up.

 

[rossel 33]

Tough to say whether talent in Iowa has dropped off from where it used to be or that wrestling and competition has improved in other regions of the country. Over-simplifying but I'd lean towards the latter.

Agree that was a significant factor. I think CA wrestling, for instance has improved tremendously, some of that secondary to growth in population.

CA population 1970 - 19.9m
CA population 2017 ~ 40m

IA population 1970 - 2.8m
IA population 2017 ~ 3.1m

 

[rossel 33]

Again just my opinion.
The reason Iowa high schook wrestling produced so many national champions in the 80s and 90s was good product trained by Gable.

Agree with this too. Gable created a new philosophy and style in wrestling that was ahead of everyone else (not limited to attacking and conditioning, but certainly a parts of it). Now many top tier programs have embraced it.

 

[wasdt21]

thank heavens for that. the population growth i mean, we are doing fine with what we have

 

[rossel 33]

thank heavens for that. the population growth i mean, we are doing fine with what we have

true enough.... wouldn't mind less congestion most everywhere around here in bay area

 

[nitlion6]

Many of those I listed were ISU products. The Gibbons, Van Arsdale, Krieger, Voelker, etc...

In the 80s Iowa St was still a very premier program with Coach Nichols and then Gibbons - so still good product being trained by the guy who trained Gable.
Mostly good product meet coach gable.

 

[CumberlandHawk]

Maybe its been mentioned but some Gable/Iowa products have moved away and spread the wealth. Guys like Strittmatter go to a high population area and see what happens. Iowa has no chance to outproduce higher population states if the coaching is equal. Just simple numbers. It doesnt mean we are worse it just means everyone else has caught up and has a much larger talent pool.It's the same reason a 1A school cant compete with a 4A school in football.

 

[madmustang4]

My two cents: I don't think it matters if he wrestles or not. I just don't see us competing for a title this year or next ...

or the year after that and then the year after that one.

 

[93hawkeye]

90s also had Iowa HS kids winning at other schools. Jason Kelber, Tolly Thompson, was one of the Greenlees a champ? Probably others I'm not thinking of

 

[el dub]

thank heavens for that. the population growth i mean, we are doing fine with what we have

Really? The last time I drove through rural Iowa we came across a bunch of small towns with boarded up businesses lining main streets. While the population of Iowa may have stayed relatively level over the last forty years, folks are moving out of rural areas to higher density population centers and that's not healthy for the state as a whole, imo.

 

[el dub]

true enough.... wouldn't mind less congestion most everywhere around here in bay area

That's why we prefer to live in the hills/trees and visit the bay area for cultural events and international cuisine like Belgian waffles and French toast…

 

[JBJRFL]

That's why we prefer to live in the hills/trees and visit the bay area for cultural events and international cuisine like Belgian waffles and French toast…

I like IHOP too.

 

[wasdt21]

you can shove cultural events

 

[el dub]

you can shove cultural events

What? No Monster Truck Rallies or WWF for you?

 

[el dub]

I like IHOP too.

Well, I like TURTLES, but you ain't gonna EVER get me to like that hIp-pity-HOP stuff.

 

[JBJRFL]

Well, I like TURTLES, but you ain't gonna EVER get me to like that hIp-pity-HOP stuff.

Oh, but I bet you'd be pretty smoothe spinning on your back.

 

[el dub]

Oh, but I bet you'd be pretty smoothe spinning on your back.

Yeah, well at least I don't need no cardboard to do my shoulder spins!

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

With Cortez out and Hall red shirting,Hawks got a shot! Take it and get Young or Marinelli in there