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Maryland put how many on 7th ranked Texas

And Iowa is and will be the best team and defense ISU faces all season.

Iowa has a great defense. Won’t hear any argument from me on that. Fair to say Iowa has the best defense ISU will play this season.

It’s also fair to say Iowa is battling Akron and Kansas for the worst offense ISU will play all season.

Iowa’s D is “that good” though so probably a top 3 team ISU will play this season. And ISU is one of the top 3 teams Iowa will play this season too.

Vegas agrees with me too. Just looks at the spreads in all 12 Iowa games.
 
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Iowa has a great defense. Won’t hear any argument from me on that. Fair to say Iowa has the best defense ISU will play this season.

It’s also fair to say Iowa is battling Akron and Kansas for the worst offense ISU will play all season.

Iowa’s D is “that good” though so probably a top 3 team ISU will play this season. And ISU is one of the top 3 teams Iowa will play this season too.

Vegas agrees with me too. Just looks at the spreads in all 12 Iowa games.
Roflmao. Not even remotely close.
 
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Iowa has a great defense. Won’t hear any argument from me on that. Fair to say Iowa has the best defense ISU will play this season.

It’s also fair to say Iowa is battling Akron and Kansas for the worst offense ISU will play all season.

Iowa’s D is “that good” though so probably a top 3 team ISU will play this season. And ISU is one of the top 3 teams Iowa will play this season too.

Vegas agrees with me too. Just looks at the spreads in all 12 Iowa games.

Four in a row. Eleven more and it will match Hayden Fry's 15-year winning streak over the clowns.

Do you clown fans hate Iowa so much that Iowa's losses mean more than your wins? Of course you do.
 
Four in a row. Eleven more and it will match Hayden Fry's 15-year winning streak over the clowns.

Do you clown fans hate Iowa so much that Iowa's losses mean more than your wins? Of course you do.

May be true for a lot of ISU fans, but not me. I root for Iowa when they don’t play ISU.
 
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Not close in some imaginary world. But in the real world it’s very accurate.

Will be the third toughest game according to Vegas spread and will be the 2nd or third toughest game according to final score. And the game was closer than that final score.
According to Vegas? 1-800-Bets-Off, try it. How soon you forget last weeks game vs WVU.
 
Ya, stop da presses,
- wisconsin beat iowa 28-17
- michigan beat wisconsin 38-13
- akron beat nortwestern
- kansas bb team beat rutgers fb team, who almost beat northwestern

Translation, b1g east is weak! ;)

East or West? Outside of Wisconsin and Iowa, the west is marginal with NW and Purdue.

East with Michigan, tOSU, MSU, and PSU are much better than Texas and Oklahoma, WVU, and TCU.

Iowa beat ISU and Maryland beat Texas. I will say, Kansas beat Rutgers but the B1G is better then the really weak Big 12.
 
According to Vegas? 1-800-Bets-Off, try it. How soon you forget last weeks game vs WVU.
According to Vegas? 1-800-Bets-Off, try it. How soon you forget last weeks game vs WVU.

LOL! I won’t be forgetting last weeks game against West Virginia anytime soon. Was a beautiful thing for me to see.

I’m not ripping on Iowa. They have imo the best team in the Big Ten West. Better than Wisconsin imo, but had some bad breaks in the game against them. Hope they get their shot against OSU/Michigan winner.

I’m just glad Iowa’s defense continues to dominate as it had me very concerned about ISU’s offense after that game.
 
Iowa has a great defense. Won’t hear any argument from me on that. Fair to say Iowa has the best defense ISU will play this season.

It’s also fair to say Iowa is battling Akron and Kansas for the worst offense ISU will play all season.

Iowa’s D is “that good” though so probably a top 3 team ISU will play this season. And ISU is one of the top 3 teams Iowa will play this season too.

Vegas agrees with me too. Just looks at the spreads in all 12 Iowa games.

It seems like you’re using stats in your arguments. Is Iowa’s offense really the third worst that ISU will see this year?
 
Not close in some imaginary world. But in the real world it’s very accurate.

Will be the third toughest game according to Vegas spread and will be the 2nd or third toughest game according to final score. And the game was closer than that final score.

Hate to agree with a Clone fan but ISU is the 3rd best team on the schedule this year.

Penn St
Wisconsin
ISU
Purdue
NW
Indiana
Maryland
Minnesota
Nebraska
N. Illinois
Illinois
UNI
 
It seems like you’re using stats in your arguments. Is Iowa’s offense really the third worst that ISU will see this year?

I think the offense that Iowa put on the field that day they played ISU in September was maybe the worst offense ISU will see all year.

However, I think Iowa’s offense is much better now then they were then. Sign of a well coached team. Hard to say. Iowa’s offense is decent now, but I wouldn’t say explosive. The defense Iowa is putting on the field is enough to keep them in a game with anyone in the country right now except Bama who will unfortunate destroy everyone.
 
I think the offense that Iowa put on the field that day they played ISU in September was maybe the worst offense ISU will see all year.

However, I think Iowa’s offense is much better now then they were then. Sign of a well coached team. Hard to say now. Iowa’s offense is decent now, but I wouldn’t say explosive. The defense Iowa is putting on the field is enough to keep them in a game with anyone in the country right now except Bama who will unfortunate destroy everyone.

Really that offense will be worst all year they face? You guys still have to play Kansas and Incarnate Word. Iowa can play 8 guys and still be more dangerous on offense then Incarnate freaking Word.
 
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Big 12 defense!! Huh!!
1st game of the year is warm up and counts very little. Texas is #7 and it appears that Iowa may not play one ranked team this whole season prior to a bowl game.....wow, what a schedule! LOL!
 
Really that offense will be worst all year they face? You guys still have to play Kansas and Incarnate Word. Iowa can play 8 guys and still be more dangerous on offense then Incarnate freaking Word.

You have to admit it was pretty bad that day. I’m happy to see ISU has a decent D, but Iowa’s offense wasn’t exactly stellar that day. Good enough to win I guess, but that was on your D dominating the game.

I don’t know anything about Incarnate Word.
 
Ya, makes just as much or even more sense as point made by OP ;)

He's right that defense is garbage in the Big XII. But putting too much emphasis on one game is always a fallacy. To be honest, neither conference is that impressive top to bottom, but coming in to today the B1G Ten had 6 teams in the AP Top 25. Just saying.

Oh, and stop winking all the time. :confused:
 
He's right that defense is garbage in the Big XII. But putting too much emphasis on one game is always a fallacy. To be honest, neither conference is that impressive top to bottom, but coming in to today the B1G Ten had 6 teams in the AP Top 25. Just saying.

Oh, and stop winking all the time. :confused:
Yep, Defenses in the B12 are garbage and offenses in the B10 are garbage. You can take your pick or spin it or whatever.
 
1st game of the year is warm up and counts very little. Texas is #7 and it appears that Iowa may not play one ranked team this whole season prior to a bowl game.....wow, what a schedule! LOL!

I’m not saying Iowa’s schedule is the best but your statement about Iowa not playing a ranked team prior to a bowl game is, well, idiotic.
 
Yep, Defenses in the B12 are garbage and offenses in the B10 are garbage. You can take your pick or spin it or whatever.

False. There are garbage teams in the B1G Ten, but there is plenty of offense. The B1G just also plays defense unlike the Big XII.
 
JD does raise some fair points. And at least he is not talking about missed first game, super bowl, etc. I think ISU is darn good this year. I am so tired of conference comparisons and transitive theories. I actually think both teams are good and both conferences are worse than I thought. But actually that could be said for all conferences but the SEC. Both the PAC 12 and the ACC are really bad with the only exception being Clemson.
 
JD does raise some fair points. And at least he is not talking about missed first game, super bowl, etc. I think ISU is darn good this year. I am so tired of conference comparisons and transitive theories. I actually think both teams are good and both conferences are worse than I thought. But actually that could be said for all conferences but the SEC. Both the PAC 12 and the ACC are really bad with the only exception being Clemson.

Truth.
 
1st game of the year is warm up and counts very little. Texas is #7 and it appears that Iowa may not play one ranked team this whole season prior to a bowl game.....wow, what a schedule! LOL!

If you could win some games perhaps you could make it 3 ranked teams.

The irony of ISU fans talking ish about our schedule.
 
1st game of the year is warm up and counts very little. Texas is #7 and it appears that Iowa may not play one ranked team this whole season prior to a bowl game.....wow, what a schedule! LOL!

Funny cause I thought that number in front of Wisconsin actually meant something when they played Iowa. Also penn st is top 20 and we play them next week.

Also tell that to the selection committee that first game doesn’t matter because if Texas runs the table and comparing them to other one loss teams I’m sure they won’t give them a pass cause they played week one and loss to a mediocre Maryland team. First game counts as much as the last game along with all the games in beteeen.
 
Maryland beat Texas twice in back-2-back years home and away. Yes Maryland not known as a juggernaut B1G football program.
 
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