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Meanwhile in Texas education news...

That's the school district I grew up in.

Sounds like in a few areas there was declining enrollment. Rather than not having enough students to properly fund those schools, they're closing them and rolling the remaining students into other schools.

It sucks, but it happens sometimes. We had to go to the school board every year to convince them not to close my daughter's elementary school - and that was in a great Northern Virginia school district.
 
As long as they still have millions for high school football stadiums, the Texas schools will be sound as a pound.

Those days might be over. The recent bond votes for the big big stadiums have been getting voted down most of the recent times. Prosper ( North of Dallas) already has an amazing $50 million dollar stadium and they wanted another $50 million dollar stadium for their growth, and the citizens said not so fast...

 
That's the school district I grew up in.

Sounds like in a few areas there was declining enrollment. Rather than not having enough students to properly fund those schools, they're closing them and rolling the remaining students into other schools.

It sucks, but it happens sometimes. We had to go to the school board every year to convince them not to close my daughter's elementary school - and that was in a great Northern Virginia school district.
Lewisville, Plano, and Coppell are all closing schools. Which HS did you go to Ndallas?
 
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Lewisville, Plano, and Coppell are all closing schools. Which HS did you go to Ndallas?
I went to The Colony. I actually played against Southlake Carroll way back when you still had the old stadium. It was terrible - the lighting was really bad, and there were dark spots on the field. And the planes flying over were so low that you couldn't bother with audibles, or hearing anything, really.
 
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I didn't grow up here, but I live in Lewisville now. If you guys ever want to get together for a beer, name the place and I won't show up.
 
Careful now. I've voiced this same concern in Iowa only to receive an onslaught of criticism and excuses.
Totally different pots of money, but you already know that.

What you're complaining about is fine in theory, I guess, if you know nothing about school finance, but you're just bring willfully ignorant since I've already educated you on the topic several times.
 
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As long as they still have millions for high school football stadiums, the Texas schools will be sound as a pound.
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Totally different pots of money, but you already know that.

What you're complaining about is fine in theory, I guess, if you know nothing about school finance, but you're just bring willfully ignorant since I've already educated you on the topic several times.

Sigh...There ya go again.
 This has been explained to you repeatedly.

It's all taxpayer money going into those pots.

There have been periods of time in Iowa when the Democrats have been in full legislative control. Why haven't they affected change to this "different pots of money" set up?

Fact remains that many simply don't care enough that 20 plus million dollars of tax dollars can be used on stadiums while the education side of finances is squeezed.

How many times have you personally, or the teachers union, contacted or lobbied state lawmakers and/or the governor to advocate for change?

Can't have your cake and eat it too.
 
Sigh...There ya go again.
 This has been explained to you repeatedly.

It's all taxpayer money going into those pots.

There have been periods of time in Iowa when the Democrats have been in full legislative control. Why haven't they affected change to this "different pots of money" set up?

Fact remains that many simply don't care enough that 20 plus million dollars of tax dollars can be used on stadiums while the education side of finances is squeezed.

How many times have you personally, or the teachers union, contacted or lobbied state lawmakers and/or the governor to advocate for change?

Can't have your cake and eat it too.
How many years in the last 50 have Iowa Democrats been in “full control” of Iowas government (legislature and governorship)? I’m betting not more the once or maybe twice..(2-4 years). How about the Iowa GOP?
 
How many years in the last 50 have Iowa Democrats been in “full control” of Iowas government (legislature and governorship)? I’m betting not more the once or maybe twice..(2-4 years). How about the Iowa GOP?

Last 50 years? Not sure.

The dems had all 3 chambers for 4 straight years as recently as 2010.
 
Sigh...There ya go again.
 This has been explained to you repeatedly.

It's all taxpayer money going into those pots.

There have been periods of time in Iowa when the Democrats have been in full legislative control. Why haven't they affected change to this "different pots of money" set up?

Fact remains that many simply don't care enough that 20 plus million dollars of tax dollars can be used on stadiums while the education side of finances is squeezed.

How many times have you personally, or the teachers union, contacted or lobbied state lawmakers and/or the governor to advocate for change?

Can't have your cake and eat it too.
No idea what the Democrat party has to do with this, but okay.

In Iowa, for example, the money used to build stadiums would either come from SAVE (one cent sales tax), PPEL (which is voter approved to the $1.34 limit), or general obligation bonds (which require a super majority vote for some reason). All of the money in those pots is to be used exclusively for infrastructure, technology, vehicles, etc.

How would it make sense to use that money for textbooks or salaries? That's what the general fund is for. Schools in Iowa would have more money to use to pay teachers and purchase curriculum if the Iowa legislature would set SSA (State supplemental aid) at an acceptable percentage rather than the 2-3% they decide on every year.

So if a school is building a new stadium, it's almost a certainty that it was approved by the local taxpayers. If that same district can't pay teachers enough or afford new curriculum, that's on the state of Iowa. But apparently they're more interested in giving away money to rich private school kids than helping the vast majority of students in Iowa who attend public schools.

Again, you're being willfully ignorant and asking the same questions that you've already been educated on time and again.
 
No idea what the Democrat party has to do with this, but okay.

In Iowa, for example, the money used to build stadiums would either come from SAVE (one cent sales tax), PPEL (which is voter approved to the $1.34 limit), or general obligation bonds (which require a super majority vote for some reason). All of the money in those pots is to be used exclusively for infrastructure, technology, vehicles, etc.

How would it make sense to use that money for textbooks or salaries?That's what the general fund is for. Schools in Iowa would have more money to use to pay teachers and purchase curriculum if the Iowa legislature would set SSA (State supplemental aid) at an acceptable percentage rather than the 2-3% they decide on every year.

So if a school is building a new stadium, it's almost a certainty that it was approved by the local taxpayers. If that same district can't pay teachers enough or afford new curriculum, that's on the state of Iowa. But apparently they're more interested in giving away money to rich private school kids than helping the vast majority of students in Iowa who attend public schools.

Again, you're being willfully ignorant and asking the same questions that you've already been educated on time and again.

Calling others willfully ignorant while doubling down...

You say you have no idea what politicians have to do with it while citing laws that govern the matter.
 
Calling others willfully ignorant while doubling down...

You say you have no idea what politicians have to do with it while citing laws that govern the matter.
I said the Democrats, we know what the Republicans have to do with it.

Doubling down implies I'm defending something when I'm just stating facts. Again, you've been proven wrong on this several times. I'd have at least a modicum of respect for you if you would just admit that and move on.
 
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I said the Democrats, we know what the Republicans have to do with it.

Doubling down implies I'm defending something when I'm just stating facts. Again, you've been proven wrong on this several times. I'd have at least a modicum of respect for you if you would just admit that and move on.

Proven wrong on what? Were not disagreeing on the laws that create pots of money.
 
Proven wrong on what? Were not disagreeing on the laws that create pots of money.
You're constantly complaining about schools building new stadiums while cutting staff, not investing in curriculum, etc. when that is what the taxpayers voted for.

There's nothing wrong with the law, you just clearly can't comprehend it.
 
You're constantly complaining about schools building new stadiums while cutting staff, not investing in curriculum, etc. when that is what the taxpayers voted for.

There's nothing wrong with the law, you just clearly can't comprehend it.

I would add that I have zero sympathy for taxpayers of a community who fund expensive stadiums and then turn around and bitch about lack of funding.
 
You're constantly complaining about schools building new stadiums while cutting staff, not investing in curriculum, etc. when that is what the taxpayers voted for.

There's nothing wrong with the law, you just clearly can't comprehend it.
The guy has no understanding of PPEL, RPS, ISL, or state aid and funding formulas. He's proved it over and over through the years.
 
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I would add that I have zero sympathy for taxpayers of a community who fund expensive stadiums and then turn around and bitch about lack of funding.
The Texas suburbs that usually build these monuments to the game aren’t poorly funded, they’re in wealthy suburbs of major cities. They put Mckinneys stadium on the ballot, like $60MM—it passed with like 70-80% approval.
 
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