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Michigan's Antics

What the f*** does the middle east and allah have to do with college football? I got off FB and spend more time on here hoping to get away from all that bullsh*t. I guess there is no 'safe place' on social media. Pathetic.
pretty sure most every University has a crying room and therapy animals You could frequent and use if You need a safe space . Just trying to be helpful.
 
pretty sure most every University has a crying room and therapy animals You could frequent and use if You need a safe space . Just trying to be helpful.
They also have great Psychiatry departments for people suffering from obsessive and delusional thoughts. Crying and the need for security are normal human emotions that are typical in normal functioning people who have been able to maintain the most important human element.....empathy. People who deny those emotions and have lost the ability to be empathetic are the most dangerous to the survival of our species and maintaining civil societies. I hope you and others can rediscover these things, or at least become aware of your deficiencies. Your attempt to belittle or marginalize me was quite churlish and clearly demonstrates where you are at emotionally. Your chat room moniker clearly displays that as well. Shall we get back to talking about football and the Hawkeyes now? :cool:
 
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They also have great Psychiatry departments for people suffering from obsessive and delusional thoughts. Crying and the need for security are normal human emotions that are typical in normal functioning people who have been able to maintain the most important human element.....empathy. People who deny those emotions and have lost the ability to be empathetic are the most dangerous to the survival of our species and maintaining civil societies. I hope you and others can rediscover these things, or at least become aware of your deficiencies. Your attempt to belittle or marginalize me was quite churlish and clearly demonstrates where you are at emotionally. Your chat room moniker clearly displays that as well. Shall we get back to talking about football and the Hawkeyes now? :cool:

Obtuse is what I’d call them.
 
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What took place first....the trashing of the field by Bush or the orchestrated sideline to sideline march by MSU?
The latter. The trashing the field was a response. Dantonio was right behind the line. If there were more Michigan players out there, it would have been a riot. There were no adults around, including, Dantonio who orchestrated the event and Bush overreacted.
 
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I dislike Harbaugh as much as the next guy.

But, I hope I don't overstate this, Dantonio is my least favorite football coach human being in the big ten nation world.
 
What took place first....the trashing of the field by Bush or the orchestrated sideline to sideline march by MSU?
MSU does that arm-linked field walk before every game, but this time they were late getting onto the field (one might say on purpose). They did their walk during a designated warm-up period for Michigan, when they were allowed to use the whole field. Bush was obviously aware of MSU's field walk and stood his ground. After his was clotheslined, he proceeded to rip the logo at midfield.
Both sides were intentionally being pricks, but ultimately, MSU was on the field at the wrong time.
 
Were the team and the player(s) assessed unsportsmanlike conduct penalties? If not, why not? In fact, why wouldn't the player kicking at the logo be disqualified from the game? What kind of message is the Big Ten sending?

Of course, high-stepping into the end zone is a much more sinister deed than any of those shenanigans. :rolleyes:
 
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I really think that kid wanted to take a piss right on that logo! Right on Sparty’s head for all the Spartans to see. Very disrespectful, then they stomped them on their home field too.. I don’t feel bad for either of them! Arrogant cocky Michigan or Dirty fake injuries MSU.. they can go fight or go touch each other in a corner for all I care..
Michigan considers arrogant and cocky a compliment.
 
Were the team and the player(s) assessed unsportsmanlike conduct penalties? If not, why not? In fact, why wouldn't the player kicking at the logo be disqualified from the game? What kind of message is the Big Ten sending?

Of course, high-stepping into the end zone is a much more sinister deed than any of those shenanigans. :rolleyes:

There is no rule against kicking a logo. The MSU players actually could be charged with a crime for their actions.
 
Another instance where I was hoping it was possible that both teams could lose the game.. MSU’s being a class act in sports has vanished! Probably gone since Jud & George.. & Michigan & their fans have always thought they were best thing God gave to football.. God bless John Beilein
 
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I would say the blame falls on MSU and Dantonio. I wish Bush would have spit in Dantonio's face instead of messing with the sod.
That would have been disrespect.
 
If Bush got three personal fouls, he’d be ejected from a game. Max is two for a player in a game. Bush pushes the envelope and gets away with a lot as evidenced by the hit under the chin against the Maryland qb Hill a couple weeks ago. He speers him to the point he knocks him on his back after releasing a pass, helmet comes off, continues to lay on the ground, no call on the field, not even a review when clearly targeting.

I hate how they interpret the rule now and don’t consider the word defenseless anymore. They just call targeting on all hits regardless of the offensive players movement with his helmet. The rule should state if a defensive player leads in an upward manner toward the offensive players helmet area, targeting wil be called. Saw the PSU Indy game yesterday where a PSU player wasn’t attempting to target and tackling low, the Indy running back lowered his helmet causing the helmet to helmet.....targeting on the PSU safety. 1, it wasn’t defenseless and 2, the offensive player lowered his helmet causing the contact. It was a football play. Stop trying to make each hit perfect, it’s football and a contact sport.

I know there's a rule where a player is ejected for two unsportsmanlike penalties, but I wasn't aware there was a similar rule for personal fouls.
 
I think people are giving Dantonio too much credit for orchestrating the event. His players largely do what they want with little or no correction from the coaches.

I wouldn't put it past Dantonio. MSU does this walk before games. Yesterday, they just happened to do it 10-15 minutes later than normal when UM players were on the field. Given the amount of planning and detail that go into college football practices and game day preparation, it's surprising that a team would be that far off on their schedule ... especially for a big game like this.
 
I wouldn't put it past Dantonio. MSU does this walk before games. Yesterday, they just happened to do it 10-15 minutes later than normal when UM players were on the field. Given the amount of planning and detail that go into college football practices and game day preparation, it's surprising that a team would be that far off on their schedule ... especially for a big game like this.


It was intentional on the part of MSU to try to intimidate, a psychological ploy.

Make the other team get out of the way, when it is supposed to be their time.
 
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It was intentional on the part of MSU to try to intimidate, a psychological ploy.

Make the other team get out of the way, when it is supposed to be their time.
Yup, Michigan was scheduled to be there. MSU missed it's scheduled window, so should have skipped it. Harbaugh just happened to be right this once: total bush league.
 
I dislike Harbaugh as much as the next guy.

But, I hope I don't overstate this, Dantonio is my least favorite football coach human being in the big ten nation world.

I still remember the MSU def back target Colin Sandeman in the head and knock him out cold motionless on the field. The flags fly and Dantonio on the field berating the official while the medical officials rush towards Sandeman.

I also remember another MSU def back that gets out of jail on Friday and is playing against the Hawkeyes on Saturday. Apparently, the MSU administration agreed with Dantonio that their player's 5 days in jail was enough punishment.

Dantonio is as low as they come.
 
It was intentional on the part of MSU to try to intimidate, a psychological ploy.

Make the other team get out of the way, when it is supposed to be their time.

Yes it was the ultimate punk move by MSU. If you want to do your locked-arm, this is our turf walk before your home games, then do it at the time you said you were going to do it. Coming out late when you know the opponent is on the field doing their warm-ups was very likely intentional and would get the response that it did.
 
There are rules against intentionally damaging the playing surface. He clearly did that.
Regardless of what happened beforehand, damaging the field like he did is unacceptable and should be punished by Harbaugh.

No different than if he had broken a door or pissed in a locker or ripped up carpet in the locker room.

I am positive that an iowa player would have been disciplined already had he done something similar to this
 
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Which section of the rule book says you can’t kick your cleats on the field? Because I can’t find it anywhere.
It may or may not be a rule but there absolutely should be some discipline for doing it.
 
Regardless of what happened beforehand, damaging the field like he did is unacceptable and should be punished by Harbaugh.

No different than if he had broken a door or pissed in a locker or ripped up carpet in the locker room.

I am positive that an iowa player would have been disciplined already had he done something similar to this
That’s fine if Bush is punished, but if he is then Dantonio should get double for allowing MSU players to do what they did and follow behind smirking.
 
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There is no rule against kicking a logo.

But there IS a rule against unsportsmanlike conduct. If damaging the playing surface while trying to destroy the other team's midfield logo isn't "unsportsmanlike conduct," then I think the Big Ten needs a new dictionary.
 
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But there IS a rule against unsportsmanlike conduct. If damaging the playing surface while trying to destroy the other team's midfield logo isn't "unsportsmanlike conduct," then I think the Big Ten needs a new dictionary.
Give me a break. There wasn't a game going on. Maybe the refs could have thrown a flag while they were getting out their cars in the parking lot.
 
Give me a break. There wasn't a game going on. Maybe the refs could have thrown a flag while they were getting out their cars in the parking lot.
Would be offset by the unsportsmanlike penalty on MSU for clotheslinig one of the UM players.
 
But there IS a rule against unsportsmanlike conduct. If damaging the playing surface while trying to destroy the other team's midfield logo isn't "unsportsmanlike conduct," then I think the Big Ten needs a new dictionary.

Aristotle...I think you and I are missing blockm2's point. Sportsmanship is an outdated concept that only old white men believe it.... so yesterday.
 
Regardless of what happened beforehand, damaging the field like he did is unacceptable and should be punished by Harbaugh.

No different than if he had broken a door or pissed in a locker or ripped up carpet in the locker room.

I am positive that an iowa player would have been disciplined already had he done something similar to this

what damage was done to the playing surface? It was so bad that it was repaired with spray paint. Bush said he wasn't proud of his actions, but he was acting on emotion after getting assaulted before the game. It is what it is. Should Harbaugh have suspended him for the season for such chicanery?

You act like kicking some turf is the same as knocking over goalposts. It isn't damaging anything except a paint job. It's far less damage than breaking a locker or ripping up carpet and those things happen all the time in visiting lockerrooms.
 
Aristotle...I think you and I are missing blockm2's point. Sportsmanship is an outdated concept that only old white men believe it.... so yesterday.

odd since I am an old white man that I would have that sentiment. Perhaps you just can't read. The poor sportsmanship in the event starts with Mark Dantonio who lined up his inmates for their perp walk and instructed them to go right through the Michigan players who had every right to be on the field. After a few got clotheslined and had headphones ripped off their head, they were slightly mad about it. No punches were thrown. Dantonio just sat there with a smile watching it all unfold exactly has he planned.

But if your take home is the kid who kicked some grass afterwards deserves punishment, well that says a lot about you as a person.
 
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Like Jimmy said, total bush league move by Darthtonio, his thugs and their pathetic fan base. Low class MSU became no class MSU last Saturday. Glad to see that program circling the drain.
 
I’m probably the only one but I think this is actually good for the league. We need heated rivalry and it’s what our league can market really well given our borders, trophies and long history. That’s what interests fans as much as anything; passion, emotion and conflict. We’ve gotten so soft in today’s society everyone needs to apologize for everything (if you are offended that is). I’m not calling for cheap shot violence but good old fashioned vitriol and disdain. Really looking forward to the next match up of these two now!

Who hates Iowa??? Minnesota hates Iowa and I love it!!!!!

I’m thrilled with what is brewing with Nebraska too. We aren’t playing for the Hero’s trophy. We are playing for the freaking EICHORST TROPHY because the winner ‘gets to evaluate where the other program is at’.
 
odd since I am an old white man that I would have that sentiment. Perhaps you just can't read. The poor sportsmanship in the event starts with Mark Dantonio who lined up his inmates for their perp walk and instructed them to go right through the Michigan players who had every right to be on the field. After a few got clotheslined and had headphones ripped off their head, they were slightly mad about it. No punches were thrown. Dantonio just sat there with a smile watching it all unfold exactly has he planned.

But if your take home is the kid who kicked some grass afterwards deserves punishment, well that says a lot about you as a person.

I guess the "can't read" thing cuts both ways. I clearly said both teams/coaches acted like douchbags. If Bush's response is your interpretation of "kicking some grass", I hope nobody ever "taps" your wife or daughter on the cheek.
 
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