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Miklus pins #2 Haught

Sounds like he was getting worked prior to the pin.

Probably not the start he was planning. Though a big pin is good.
Yeah but the score was 7-2 So it was a closer match than with Warner. Warner will also start separating himself more now with these guys, by the end of the year if Warner was to go I bet he could very well be in the finals at 197.
 
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I don't think WIlke has done anything to have Warner's shirt to be pulled. Let Cash man 197 this year, than drop next year when Warner comes in.
Yeah prob the best choice to let Warner mature . Cash is going to have a real solid year imho. Im just caught in between not that my opinion matters but the talent that some of these guys have straight out of HS is awesome. So many guys are doing so well as freshman 197 is solid but winnable class these things and having a shirt to use if he gets hurt are all things to consider.
 
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I would guess we will know more after midlands and after we see what happens with PD3. No hurry, their day will come.:) If we dont know by the 2nd week of January then I will become impatient.:mad:
 
Pull the shirt and push Wilke down. I read somewhere that PD3 needs around 20 credits, far fetched to believe that he is going to make it. Hope he does but, plan for the worst and if pulling the shirt and pushing Cash down that ain't so bad:)
 
Pull the shirt and push Wilke down. I read somewhere that PD3 needs around 20 credits, far fetched to believe that he is going to make it. Hope he does but, plan for the worst and if pulling the shirt and pushing Cash down that ain't so bad:)
Pat is doing quite well, on and off the mat. I'll actually be surprised if he doesn't make it.
 
Trailing 7-2 and he throws Haught to his back and pins him with 19 seconds left. Makes Warner look even better!

I have never been overly impressed with Haught and he was handling Miklus. I view this as Miklus being fortunate to pull out a match he was again losing. Not really a throw to his back, Haught was in on a shot and Miklus did one of those elevator things to a neck wrench like Ness always did.
 
Miklus is a good/solid College Wrestler. He has proven that over time. Warner handled him pretty good. Does it mean he beats every time? Nope. But its a good sign for what's in store for young Mr. Warner.

I don't know how this year is going to play out in regards to Warner, Lee and Downey, but either way I'm still going to be an Iowa Wrestling fan.
 
I say let him go. Lee is a different story because you have to take his injuries and recovery into consideration but Warner is ready to contend now.

You may be right. But it's only one match against top competition. I cant wait to see him go if he does this year. So I HOPE you are right.

GO HAWKS!!!
 
Cash did not certify at '84... There's been some inner consternation on that subject as of late.
Thats not good to hear, hopefully it's due to him not trying to certify for it this season instead of him being unable to make it back down..
 
I know everyone keeps throwing around 20 or 23 credit hours. It seems like transcripts were posted last year when he was shopping for a new home after the Iowa State debacle. I am guessing from what I saw that the boy already had a grand plan in motion which included taking 3 or 4 Summer online courses which would have made it much simpler. Sometimes it’s easier to eat an Elephant one bite at a time over a couple of meals instead of all in one sitting.
 
I know everyone keeps throwing around 20 or 23 credit hours. It seems like transcripts were posted last year when he was shopping for a new home after the Iowa State debacle. I am guessing from what I saw that the boy already had a grand plan in motion which included taking 3 or 4 Summer online courses which would have made it much simpler. Sometimes it’s easier to eat an Elephant one bite at a time over a couple of meals instead of all in one sitting.
Nah -- I like my elephants in one bite.
 
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Yeah prob the best choice to let Warner mature . Cash is going to have a real solid year imho. Im just caught in between not that my opinion matters but the talent that some of these guys have straight out of HS is awesome. So many guys are doing so well as freshman 197 is solid but winnable class these things and having a shirt to use if he gets hurt are all things to consider.

For those far more knowledgeable than I: Obviously being in the room with high level partners for a year is great experience, but he gets that regardless. At that high of a weight, what will he gain from a year in their weight program? Is he a "body" that needs molding, or is he roughly peak physical now? Basically, is the waiting just to wait out the poor team year or what should "we" expect out of a rs year?
 
I know everyone keeps throwing around 20 or 23 credit hours. It seems like transcripts were posted last year when he was shopping for a new home after the Iowa State debacle. I am guessing from what I saw that the boy already had a grand plan in motion which included taking 3 or 4 Summer online courses which would have made it much simpler. Sometimes it’s easier to eat an Elephant one bite at a time over a couple of meals instead of all in one sitting.
I believe he took summer classes and still needed that many credits. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
For those far more knowledgeable than I: Obviously being in the room with high level partners for a year is great experience, but he gets that regardless. At that high of a weight, what will he gain from a year in their weight program? Is he a "body" that needs molding, or is he roughly peak physical now? Basically, is the waiting just to wait out the poor team year or what should "we" expect out of a rs year?
I think he needs to add strength. He's already phenomenal, of course, but once he puts on some muscle, look out. I think Moore's main advantage over him at this point is just horsepower. When that playing field gets leveled, I think Warnerov will give him all he can handle and then some.
 
I have never been overly impressed with Haught and he was handling Miklus. I view this as Miklus being fortunate to pull out a match he was again losing. Not really a throw to his back, Haught was in on a shot and Miklus did one of those elevator things to a neck wrench like Ness always did.

"The Gator Bacon"
 
So is the “did Wilcke certify at 184?” question and consternation revolve around whether PD3 is going to qualify, whether PD3 maybe wants to go to 197, or does Warner pull his shirt?

I’m assuming the answer is Warner, but PD2 (probably the real PD2) made it sound like there’s a potential that PD3 could go 197 and that Brands has not definitely made the plan for who goes at which weight yet - survival of the fittest and all that.
 
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I think he needs to add strength. He's already phenomenal, of course, but once he puts on some muscle, look out. I think Moore's main advantage over him at this point is just horsepower. When that playing field gets leveled, I think Warnerov will give him all he can handle and then some.

Is there a consensus on the new s&c guy yet?
 
Inside the room... And I never took the words as a "rumor". I'd love some clarification on this.

Same here. I find it inexcusable if they didn't certify him at 184 with such a fluid situation at 184 / 197. Unless there is some really good reason why take a card off the table?

Hopefully he certified.
 
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