Minneapolis PD Kill Black Man (not the subject of the warrant) during No Knock Search Warrant in Connection w/ a St Paul Homicide Investigation
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Fox Network probably telling viewers it was a "shootout"?
Oh, so that's different. Got it.
How about you. Say you're cleaning your gun, you just put it back together, suddenly someone walks unannounced into your home and starts screaming. Is your first reaction:
A) I immediately know these are obviously cops.
B) I point the gun at the stranger screaming at me.
C) I'm confused and might handle the gun in a way that might unintentionally appear threatening for a split second.
I know there's some nuance involved here, and you have to imagine it's not a black person in this scenario.
If the police stop to think about this they could be dead. There was a gun and it was being raised. The police did nothing wrong. It's a shitty situation that likely should have been avoided. I agree that no knock warrants are not worth it and should be banned. The police officer in this shooting is innocent.
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You'd have better luck reasoning with a mole rat.
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The person who requested the no-knock warrant and the police supervisor who okayed serving it should both be fired. Immediately. Agree that the on-duty officer who fired is not criminally culpable.
Probably true, it's hard to blame them in this situation. That doesn't mean the victim was wrong though, as Turkeydick is trying to say.
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There is no place for namecalling on HROT. Please refer to the poster in question as ChickenSnatch.
Of course. I don’t know what time of day this incident happened so - my bad - I thought it was a middle of the night thing.
I'm not on board with the Fran alt theory. Turkeyscratch is way more level headed, imo.
He also doesn't seem to mind if people post in threads not started by him.
Maybe?
My wife watches Fox(I think just to irritate me) and in the last week, they sure are milking the LEO deaths for all they can. I guess the Party of family values(cough/cough) trying to distract from some of the nefarious actions of courts/cops around the nation.
Then they have old reliable, immigration, to cry about as well.
This was a murder investigation crimes don't get any more serious.
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NYC cops get killed -- national tragedy, Democrats fault.
DC/Capital Police killed -- "legitimate political discourse."
Scumbag hypocrites, the entire lot of 'em.
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Huh. The cops killed on the steps of the US Capitol were just victims of "legitimate political discourse" according to the Republican National Committee.
That doesn't sound super serious to me.
No knock warrants are about the preservation of evidence. Nothing more. I don’t know all of the facts in this particular case, but I feel it’s unlikely that there was any evidence on the premises that would have been compromised or destroyed had a traditional warrant been executed. It’s a murder investigation. Not a drug bust.
No knock warrants aren't granted on the fly. A lot of evidence over a period of time is needed to satisfy the requirement to grant it.
What? I didn’t know that police were killed on the Capitol steps on Jan. 6th ??!
I'm a well groomed buff individual so I would take them down with 1 punch to the throat.
Agree with you.
As the story in the orig post notes, many cities no longer allow no knock warrants. The purpose of them, of course, is to catch everyone by surprise so that evidence is not destroyed. The warrant was related to a murder investigation.
I believe the cops won't face any repercussions; they LEGALLY entered the home and a gun was drawn by one of the occupants.
However, the City of Minneapolis, once again, will pay dearly.
I have lost track of how many times Ben Crump has been on TV in Minneapolis over the last 2 years.
"No knock warrants should honestly be an absolute last resort for investigating only the most serious crimes."
Ummm...it was a homicide case.
"They are wearing vests and there is a lot of them."
Because people can never be shot in the face...
Typical idiotic response by you when it comes to law enforcement. Carry on
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"Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries.
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"Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries."
And it has been clearly concluded that he died of natural causes.
Medical Examiner Finds USCP Officer Brian Sicknick Died of Natural Causes
The USCP accepts the findings from the District of Columbia's Office of the Chief Medical Examiner that Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes. This does not change the fact Officer Sicknick died in the line of duty, courageously defending Congress and the Capitol.The Department continues...
The facts have never gotten in the way of a Torbee rant.And it has been clearly concluded that he died of natural causes.
Medical Examiner Finds USCP Officer Brian Sicknick Died of Natural Causes
The USCP accepts the findings from the District of Columbia's Office of the Chief Medical Examiner that Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes. This does not change the fact Officer Sicknick died in the line of duty, courageously defending Congress and the Capitol.The Department continues...www.uscp.gov
I'm going to give you half a like. The fault is with the reliance on no knock warrants, and beyond that, there is a responsibility on the officers. That is harsh, but they have a dangerous job. Did any of them question anything along the way? Did they do any recon, or make attempts to find out who was in the apartment? Who at MPD signed off on the St. Paul request?
And, I doubt you meant it this way, but there is no such thing as a nice settlement that gives you your child back. The hope is the settlement gets voters and insurance companies around the US motivated to force changes.
Or, worse. Chuck Grassley is entertaining the idea that cops were in on the incitement of violence to make Trump look bad.
Do you think you'd get a no knock warrant in the first place, or a call to your lawyer asking for them to bring you in tomorrow morning, if that's convenient for the both of you. Even for violent crimes there are different standards in our society.
Its amazing if there are people who spend a bunch of time justifying their need for guns to defend against break ins and home invasions are blaming this guy for pulling a gun when the police conducted a home invasion.
if the police dont want guns pointed at them, maybe they shouldnt be busting down the doors late at night unanounced
if the police dont want guns pointed at them, maybe they shouldnt be busting down the doors late at night unanounced
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