So what. Use your eyes and actually watch the dumpster fire of an offense each week. They were awful and a third grader could see it. If you couldn't, yikes!
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Since ISU scored more points against Iowa than Iowa scored against ISU, I guess that means Iowa's offense was worse. Especially since Iowa had the better defense. Unless you are implying ISU had the better defense this past season.....then you would be wrong.
The first two games please list the scholarship WR that played. How many missed much of fall camp Including Johnson, Ragaini, Brecht, Vines, and Bostick. Johnson and Bostick missed the year and Vines half. Why would KSU pick up Johnson who caught two passes for 11 yards all year? How much did Iowa's offense miss him?
I actually watched two teams on the field and know who you play matters. That FCS team was ranked #41 by sagarin much higher than many FBS teams including Marshall #70 ranking who beat Notre Dame at home.
You are all falling victim to the master plan of Soaker. Personally, I believe he is a Priest of some sort
In reading his posts one can only assume that he that he has a plan to control all planets of the solar federation.
In other words, we never need to really know how or why he exists.
In reading his posts one can only assume that he that he has a plan to control all planets of the solar federation.
In other words, we never need to really know how or why he exists.
One game can turn on many issues, fumbles, Int, missed assignment, etc. Fans are saying we have the #130 total offense which is true. But what it leaves out is the defenses you played. Iowa played 7 top 15 defenses and ISU played 1. Does that make their offense look better sure.
Let’s not try and find silver linings where there are none; this season was an offensive bust and let’s hope for whatever it takes to get better next season including; better players, better play calling, and better ability to at least stretch the field even 10% more. 🙏🏽
You can sugar coat and rationalize it all you want......but Iowa's offense was abysmal, bad, and downright horrible. Other offenses put up better numbers than Iowa did against those 7 defenses, so your argument doesn't exonerate or excuse Iowa's performance.
Finished win-loss record ahead of 9 of B1G Ten Teams with higher Ranked Offenses on that list at 8-5.
Beat SEC Kentucky with a 12th ranked defense in the Nation with our 3rd string QB (who only had 3 weeks as a starter to prepare) and an O-line with 3 So, 1 Fr and 1 Jr starting.
Not embarrassing at all.
W's are always more impressive then Offensive Yardage ranking.
That said, yes, we need to improve our O-Line and receivers. Top 60-80 offense for 2023 is within reach, more in line with KOK and GD performances as OCs. Iowa's offense will need to be in the top 30-40 for 2024 and beyond to be respectible adding USC and UCLA. Can Brian accomplish that level, we will know more by the end of 2023.
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By that measure our defense finished with the number 1 “Stop Rate” this year, a metric followed weekly by the Athletic. So every top 25 team finished higher than us, even though we had a better statistical defense.
And other offenses did worse than Iowa against those 7 defenses so your argument does not make sense. I did not sugar coat anything I wanted to give some perspective as many on this board will not. How would our offense look against 7 bottom 15 defenses? WR injuries sure impacted our offense. Our first two games we were missing 5 scholarship WR.
I said BIG defenses...get a clue, playing BIG week in and out is different...scouting etc cluless.
Stops: The total number of plays by a defensive player that prevent a successful play by the offense, defined as 45% of needed yards on first down, 60% of needed yards on second down, and 100% of needed yards on third or fourth down. This seams a bit arbitrary to me but if you say so.
Jeff Sagarin ranked Iowa 21st in the nation in his last poll. 20 teams with better offenses when they don't have to play Iowa.
Jeff Sagarin ranked Iowa 21st in the nation in his last poll. 20 teams with better offenses when they don't have to play Iowa.
And look at the #s...a few yards etc takes u way up the chain...bad. basically middle pack.Big Ten (NCAA Total Offense)
OSU #9
UM #24
PSU #34
Maryland #55
PU #56
Minn #65
IL #74
Wisc #91
MSU #97
Neb #102
NW #107
IN #110
RU #127
Iowa #130
I don't get your logit OP
I don't disagree...but he still wins more than he shud...w/l r what counts.
What's redundant?.. 1 is player changes, 1 is coaching charges, 1 is fans OFF # fixation stupidity.
All these hypotheticals mean jack squat...teams who actually play one another match up & game plan differently...clueless.
Great n valid points these morons just don't get bc they can only read an OFF stat#
My argument makes perfect sense. Yes, you are trying to sugar coat and rationalize Iowa's abysmal offensive performance.
Let's stay with ISU as an example. Every team ISU played scored more points against them than Iowa. Every...single...one. And against one of the country's best defenses!
I searched SOS for Iowa's rank, and only used the ones done after the regular season was over. They had Iowa's schedule in the mid-30s+. Not exactly a juggernaut. So......7 top 15 defenses notwithstanding, Iowa's SOS was not even Top 25. No matter what metric you want to use, and no matter what rationalizations and excuses you come up with, no matter what "perspective", Iowa had one of the worst offenses in all of college football. Period.
We know. We just enjoy making fun of him.Suckers...Soaker is the troll.
Plus, I don't think he started out that way. He only became a troll after he realized how stupid his posts were.
Who is this Soaker guy? Some 18-year-old freshman in Mayflower that eats, sleeps, dreams about, and jerks off to Hawkeye football posters on his wall?
How do you get away from reality and become such an extreme Iowa Homer?
How do you get away from reality and become such an extreme Iowa Homer?
What does SOS have to due with the strength of an opponents defense? Sagarin has Iowa's SOS at 32. Michigan's is 52 yet they had a top 10 total defense. Other teams SOS Washington 57, Notre Dame 50, Clemson 48, PSU 43, Minnesota 68, Illinois 54. Minnesota and Illinois had top 10 defenses. Your SOS argument holds no water.
Hypothetical match ups and what if stats, since they never played one another, moron.
You must subscribe to the old adage... It kind of goes, don't believe your stinking eyes believe what I tell you. That's soaker. never mind that the o actually stunk up the joint continually . And anyone watching them knows that 'cept him. Just believe his spin that they were not that bad. FLASH:. They were son.
My argument absolutely does hold water. The strength of an opponent takes into account their offense and defense. What did you think is used????
Again........every team that played ISU scored more points against them than Iowa did. Only 2 teams scored less against Illinois than Iowa.
You can rationalize and make all the excuses you want, but it is a FACT that Iowa's offense is one of the worst in college football. By any metric you want to use.
I'm done with this discussion. You refuse to listen to reason and are ignoring reality.
Wow just when we think you can't get any dumber you go ahead and show us all what a absolute FOOL you really are!
Wrong idiot there are plenty of QB in the big that throw for over 300 yards...just not in BF and his shit show offense..
If you want offensive efficiency adjusted for the opponents you can look here.
BCF Toys - 2022 OFEI Ratings
www.bcftoys.com
Iowa's offensive efficiency was 99th out of 131 teams with Rutgers being the only team in the B1G that was worse. In 2021 they were 90th with Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, and Rutgers being worse.
Rutgers fired their OC this year. Illinois and Indiana fired their OC's last year. Northwestern fired their OC three years ago when Northwestern had the 120th ranked offense.
Game, set and match. Nice post!If you want offensive efficiency adjusted for the opponents you can look here.
BCF Toys - 2022 OFEI Ratings
Iowa's offensive efficiency was 99th out of 131 teams with Rutgers being the only team in the B1G that was worse. In 2021 they were 90th with Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, and Rutgers being worse.
Rutgers fired their OC this year. Illinois and Indiana fired their OC's last year. Northwestern fired their OC three years ago when Northwestern had the 120th ranked offense.
Very nice post thank you. Just goes to show the spin doctor who wants us to believe the Iowa offense wasn't really bad is totally incompetent.
