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More Latinos Seeking Citizenship to Vote Against Trump

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Donald J. Trump’s harsh campaign rhetoric against Mexican immigrants has helped him win a substantial delegate lead in the Republican primary, but it is also mobilizing a different set of likely voters — six of them alone in the family of Hortensia Villegas.


A legal immigrant from Mexico, Ms. Villegas is a mother of two who has been living in the United States for nearly a decade but never felt compelled to become a citizen. But as Mr. Trump has surged toward the Republican nomination, Ms. Villegas — along with her sister, her parents and her husband’s parents — has joined a rush by many Latino immigrants to naturalize in time to vote in November.


“I want to vote so Donald Trump won’t win,” said Ms. Villegas, 32, one of several hundred legal residents, mostly Mexicans, who crowded one recent Saturday into a Denver union hall. Volunteers helped them fill out applications for citizenship, which this year are taking about five months for federal officials to approve. “He doesn’t like us,” she said.
Over all, naturalization applications increased by 11 percent in the 2015 fiscal year over the year before, and jumped 14 percent during the six months ending in January, according to federal figures. The pace is picking up by the week, advocates say, and they estimate applications could approach 1 million in 2016, about 200,000 more than the average in recent years.

While naturalizations generally rise during presidential election years, Mr. Trump provided an extra boost this year. He kicked off his campaign in June describing Mexicans as drug-traffickers and rapists. His pledge to build a border wall and make Mexico pay for it has been a regular applause line. He has vowed to create a deportation force to expel the estimated 11 million immigrants here illegally, evoking mass roundups of the 1950s.

Among 8.8 million legal residents eligible to naturalize, about 2.7 million are Mexicans, the largest national group, federal figures show. But after decades of low naturalization rates, only 36 percent of eligible Mexicans have become citizens, while 68 percent of all other immigrants have done so, according to the Pew Research Center.

“A lot of people are opening their eyes because of all the negative stuff Donald Trump has brought,” said Ms. Villegas’s husband, Miguel Garfío, 30, who was born and raised in Colorado and came to the workshop here to help his wife and other family members become citizens this year. His parents came from Mexico in the 1980s and worked hard all their lives, he said, helping him create a construction company in Denver that now employs 18 people. Contrary to Mr. Trump’s depiction, he said, none of his relatives have criminal records.

This year immigrants seeking to become citizens can find extra help from nonprofit groups and even from the White House. Last September, President Obama launched a national campaign to galvanize legal residents to take the step. They can now pay the fee, $680, with a credit card, and practice the civics test online. They can get applications at “citizenship corners” in public libraries in many states.

The White House recruited Fernando Valenzuela, the legendary Mexican-born pitcher who naturalized only last year, and José Andrés, the Spanish-American chef, to make encouraging advertisements and to turn up at swearing-in ceremonies. On Presidents’ Day, administration officials swore in more than 20,000 new citizens. On Wednesday the administration announced $10 million in grants to groups guiding immigrants through the process.

The majority of Latinos are Democrats, and some Republicans accuse the White House of leading a thinly veiled effort to expand the ranks of the president’s party. But administration officials argue the campaign is nonpartisan, noting that immigrants who become citizens improve their incomes and chances for homeownership.

“I certainly don’t care what party they register with, I just want them to become citizens,” said Leon Rodriguez, director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, the federal agency in charge of naturalizations.

Aside from Colorado, naturalization drives are taking place in Nevada and Florida, states likely to be fiercely contested in November where Latino voters could provide a crucial margin. One nonprofit group, the New Americans Campaign, plans to complete 1,500 applications at a session in Marlins Park baseball stadium in Miami on March 19.

Among the groups the White House is supporting are immigrant rights organizations and labor unions, which say their goal in holding dozens of citizenship workshops this spring is to build immigrant voting power. They want to boost support for legislation creating a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, which Mr. Obama has long promised but has never been able to push through Congress. Recently naturalized immigrants, after all the effort they must make, are more likely to vote than longtime citizens.

“People who are eligible are really feeling the urgency to get out there,” said Tara Raghuveer, deputy director of the National Partnership for New Americans, a coalition that helped put on the workshop in Denver. “They are worried by the prospect that someone who is running for president has said hateful things.”

Mr. Trump says he is confident his immigration plans will not hurt him among Latinos, because he has employed many thousands of them over the years in his hotels and other properties.

“They’re incredible people,” he said in the Republican debate in Houston on February 26. “I’m just telling you that I will do really well with Hispanics.”

But in a poll of Latino voters on Feb. 25 by the Washington Post and Univision, the Spanish language television network, 80 percent had an unfavorable view of Mr. Trump, including 72 percent with a very unfavorable view, far more than for other Republican candidates. In the poll, 74 percent of the voters said Mr. Trump’s views on immigration were “offensive.”

Mr. Trump’s campaign did not respond to emails requesting comment.

Many Mexicans have been content to live in the United States with their resident green cards. The naturalization fee is high and Mexicans often underestimate their English and worry they will fail the test, said Manuel Pastor, a sociology professor at the University of Southern California who studies citizenship. Many Mexicans have family members who are undocumented, and they think twice before engaging with the government, he said.

Yet many Mexicans joined a naturalization rush in 2007, when the threat of a fee increase right before the 2008 election prompted more than 1.3 million immigrants to apply. This year, no such increase looms. There is no hard deadline for immigrants hoping to vote in November, but with the citizenship agency currently approving naturalizations in about five months, immigrant groups are pressing to get applications in before May 1 to allow new citizens time to register to vote.

At the workshop in Denver, many aspiring voters agreed on why they are naturalizing this year.

“Donald Trump never! Never!” said Minerva Guerrero Salazar, 40, who works for a uniform rental company after moving here from Mexico in 2002. “He has no conscience when he speaks of Latinos. And he is so rude. I don’t know what kind of education his mother gave him.”

Several women said they hoped to be able to vote for Hillary Clinton, the Democratic front-runner.

At least one man liked a Republican. Dr. Oscar Argüello Rudín, 71, a Costa Rican who has been a resident since 1971 and recently retired as chief of surgery at a hospital in Colorado Springs, favored Gov. John Kasich of Ohio.

Mary Victorio, 22, a Mexican-born student at the University of Colorado, Denver, said she would vote Democrat but was grateful in one way to Mr. Trump. “He gave us that extra push we needed to get ready to vote, to prove to people who see us negatively they are wrong,” she said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/08/u...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
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Yep - and there are fools out there who think Latinos will support him. Trump will be a huge turnout machine for Hillary.
 
There is? Who? Seriously curious.
I've read a couple of them on this board. Can't remember precisely who, but the big Trump fans keep saying that. They were all whipped up about the 46 (actual number and percentage) Hispanics who supported Trump in Nevada.
 
I've read a couple of them on this board. Can't remember precisely who, but the big Trump fans keep saying that. They were all whipped up about the 46 (actual number and percentage) Hispanics who supported Trump in Nevada.
Oh, I thought you were talking about some big name media person or something. Gotcha.
 
It should be a big year for Hispanics to assert themselves. They have Trump and the end of DACA to use as motivation. People post here all the time that elections don't matter and the teams are the same. But DACA is a pretty stark contrast that will impact millions directly.
 
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Don't you wish people would vote FOR someone vs voting AGAINST someone?
 
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When was the last suiside attack in America? Was it done by someone a wall would have kept out?
 
When was the last suiside attack in America? Was it done by someone a wall would have kept out?
well, that is what trump was trying to say: Syrians and radical muslims were coming in with the Hondurans and Mexicans, mixing in, and that's how we got san Bernardino. I think Obama and the admin and cia brought in the spies at san Bernardino.
 
it's bullcrap, everyone knows you don't need to be a citizen to get welfare and foodstamps and the aca and to vote. duh
 
I've read a couple of them on this board. Can't remember precisely who, but the big Trump fans keep saying that. They were all whipped up about the 46 (actual number and percentage) Hispanics who supported Trump in Nevada.

And that 46% represented the percentage of Hispanic voters who supported Trump in the Republican caucuses, not the percentage of Nevada's Hispanic population.
 
I don't care if the Hispanic vote on the GOP side in Nevada was 10 people or 100,000. The fact remains that people said Trump could not and would not win the Hispanic vote every in any circumstance. Well he did in Nevada.
 
Wait so more non-Americans don't want trump? Shocking. This issue alone should be why everyone in America that believes in America and supports having borders around our country should vote for him.
 
Wait so more non-Americans don't want trump? Shocking. This issue alone should be why everyone in America that believes in America and supports having borders around our country should vote for him.

Actually I think the big takeaway from this piece is that the GOP will have to broaden its deny the vote efforts to include not just black americans but mexican americans too. Such an aspirational ideology!
 
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Does anyone think that the Hispanics that are already citizens actually look for a candidate that enables further illegal immigration and competition for their jobs? Would any Democrat support a policy that said amnesty for those already here provided that they can never vote? I would go even further. Amnesty but you can never vote, your children can never vote but your grandchildren can. By then you will have paid the price for your unlawful entry into our country. Your grand kids should have assimilated by now and will be given the right to vote.
 
Anecdotally, my in-laws and their immediate family (immigrated legally from Mexico) absolutely despise illegal immigration. Not the people but the system.
 
well, that is what trump was trying to say: Syrians and radical muslims were coming in with the Hondurans and Mexicans, mixing in, and that's how we got san Bernardino. I think Obama and the admin and cia brought in the spies at san Bernardino.
San Bernardo didn't come through the Mexican border. You have been misinformed. We have pictures of them coming through an airport. San Bernardo proves why any wall will fail.
 
I don't care if the Hispanic vote on the GOP side in Nevada was 10 people or 100,000. The fact remains that people said Trump could not and would not win the Hispanic vote every in any circumstance. Well he did in Nevada.

There were slightly over 6,000 Hispanics who participated in the Republican caucuses in Nevada this year. Trump got about 2800 of them to support him, if you believe the exit poll responses of 125 people who said they were Hispanic and voted for Trump. 180,000 Hispanics voted in Nevada in the 2012 election, with Obama winning 70%.

In contrast, in the Puerto Rico primary Rubio won 74% of the Latino vote of over 30,000. That's 22,000+ votes. Trump got about 4200. And those were Republicans only.

Trump has no chance with Latinos and Hispanics. He's called them murderers and rapists ("although some, I'm sure, are good people", he said immediately after, implying that most are criminals). I know quite a few Latinos. I don't know a single one who's for Trump.
 
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San Bernardo didn't come through the Mexican border. You have been misinformed. We have pictures of them coming through an airport. San Bernardo proves why any wall will fail.
im not saying that trump said that, about the border, im saying he thinks radical muslims are coming thru the border and airport. and elsewhere, yes, you are right, a wall won't stop the cia. Trumps wall is a metaphor like the wall between church and state
 
There were slightly over 6,000 Hispanics who participated in the Republican caucuses in Nevada this year. Trump got about 2800 of them to support him, if you believe the exit poll responses of 125 people who said they were Hispanic and voted for Trump. 180,000 Hispanics voted in Nevada in the 2012 election, with Obama winning 70%.

In contrast, in the Puerto Rico primary Rubio won 74% of the Latino vote of over 30,000. That's 22,000+ votes. Trump got about 4200. And those were Republicans only.

Trump has no chance with Latinos and Hispanics. He's called them murderers and rapists ("although some, I'm sure, are good people", he said immediately after, implying that most are criminals). I know quite a few Latinos. I don't know a single one who's for Trump.
and who cares? That's like saying trump has no shot with ghosts and goblins and Santa's elves. Latinos don't vote and they are a non factor
 
im not saying that trump said that, about the border, im saying he thinks radical muslims are coming thru the border and airport. and elsewhere, yes, you are right, a wall won't stop the cia. Trumps wall is a metaphor like the wall between church and state
That makes sense. We can get Mexico to pay for a metaphor.
 
Logically speaking......... Right now these people are illegal, how are they here again?
 
Logically speaking......... Right now these people are illegal, how are they here again?

And I have been told over and over that no illegal will ever get the right to vote. Hmm, looks like I was correct about that as well. Paging Natural for some crow?
 
Logically speaking......... Right now these people are illegal, how are they here again?

Perhaps I am misunderstanding your post. Is this intended for the woman interviewed in the OP's article? If so, "“I want to vote so Donald Trump won’t win,” said Ms. Villegas, 32, one of several hundred legal residents, mostly Mexicans, who crowded one recent Saturday into a Denver union hall."

She is not illegal. She never was illegal. She just has never obtained citizenship status. She has been living as a permanent legal immigrant.
 
Perhaps I am misunderstanding your post. Is this intended for the woman interviewed in the OP's article? If so, "“I want to vote so Donald Trump won’t win,” said Ms. Villegas, 32, one of several hundred legal residents, mostly Mexicans, who crowded one recent Saturday into a Denver union hall."

She is not illegal. She never was illegal. She just has never obtained citizenship status. She has been living as a permanent legal immigrant.

So you can be a legal resident (like on a visa) but not a legal citizen. That makes sense however, the way I thought it was being stated was these people weren't citizens but hoped to become soon. I wasn't thinking about things like visas.
 
Yep - and there are fools out there who think Latinos will support him. Trump will be a huge turnout machine for Hillary.
I tend to agree. I think Republicans would have an enthusiasm edge if it came to Rubio or Kasich. Cruz might be a tossup. But millions will turn out to oppose Trump. You can easily see hordes of celebrities using their fame to oppose him. The media would oppose him. Even Republican groups might tell Conservatives to sit it out.

Mark Shields might be correct. If the Republicans nominate Trump, he might be so disastrous for not just the White House but for the down-ticket, that the GOP could lose the House.
 
So you can be a legal resident (like on a visa) but not a legal citizen. That makes sense however, the way I thought it was being stated was these people weren't citizens but hoped to become soon. I wasn't thinking about things like visas.
Swag's got it. An immigrant has to have a visa to be a legal resident (aka green card) for a period of time (can't remember if it's 3 or 5 years) before they can apply to be naturalized (become a citizen). So, they're here legally but can't vote legally until they become citizens.
 
I tend to agree. I think Republicans would have an enthusiasm edge if it came to Rubio or Kasich. Cruz might be a tossup. But millions will turn out to oppose Trump. You can easily see hordes of celebrities using their fame to oppose him. The media would oppose him. Even Republican groups might tell Conservatives to sit it out.

Mark Shields might be correct. If the Republicans nominate Trump, he might be so disastrous for not just the White House but for the down-ticket, that the GOP could lose the House.
I think the Senate is definitely in jeopardy if Trump is the nominee. The House is pretty unlikely, imo, but it might be possible with Trump. It would be pretty much impossible with any of the other three.
 
I think the Senate is definitely in jeopardy if Trump is the nominee. The House is pretty unlikely, imo, but it might be possible with Trump. It would be pretty much impossible with any of the other three.
It's really weird to even be talking about the House being in play. But with a Trump ticket, the Dems have a chance. I still don't think it's a good chance. But they're at least in the game. Any other nominee, even Cruz, and I think the House is off the table.
 
There were slightly over 6,000 Hispanics who participated in the Republican caucuses in Nevada this year. Trump got about 2800 of them to support him, if you believe the exit poll responses of 125 people who said they were Hispanic and voted for Trump. 180,000 Hispanics voted in Nevada in the 2012 election, with Obama winning 70%.

In contrast, in the Puerto Rico primary Rubio won 74% of the Latino vote of over 30,000. That's 22,000+ votes. Trump got about 4200. And those were Republicans only.

Trump has no chance with Latinos and Hispanics. He's called them murderers and rapists ("although some, I'm sure, are good people", he said immediately after, implying that most are criminals). I know quite a few Latinos. I don't know a single one who's for Trump.

When you are using Puerto Rico as an argument for the general election, it shows you are grasping at straws. There is a big difference between Puerto Ricans and Hispanics from Mexico.
 
When you are using Puerto Rico as an argument for the general election, it shows you are grasping at straws. There is a big difference between Puerto Ricans and Hispanics from Mexico.

Oh, good grief. I was not using Puerto Rico as an argument in the general election. I was just noting that it's a much stronger/better indication of how Latinos view Trump, given the larger sample size.

But, if I were, there are a million Puerto Ricans who live in Florida. Have you ever heard that it's a swing state?
 
Oh, good grief. I was not using Puerto Rico as an argument in the general election. I was just noting that it's a much stronger/better indication of how Latinos view Trump, given the larger sample size.

But, if I were, there are a million Puerto Ricans who live in Florida. Have you ever heard that it's a swing state?

Look I get you're an establishment guy. That is fine. Keep voting for the same people who have been in power for years and have literally done nothing.
 
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