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LA's water boss struggles to explain why they ran out of WATER
Los Angeles' water boss who makes $750,000 a year couldn't quite explain why fire hydrants have run dry during the disastrous wildfires in a bumbling video. During a press conference Wednesday, Janisse Quiñones (pictured), the newly appointed chief executive officer and chief engineer of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said all water storage tanks in the Pacific Palisades area 'went dry' as flames continue to rage on.

At least seven people have been killed and almost 180,000 forced to leave their homes amid the most destructive blaze in the county's history. Quiñones, who previously worked for PG&E prior to being appointed in May, said the third water tank ran out at about 3am local time Wednesday, after the first tank ran out around 4.45pm, and the second at approximately 8.30pm - each at about 1,000,000 gallons each. 'Those tanks help with the pressure on the fire hydrants in the hills of Palisades, and because we were pushing so much water in our trunk line, and so much water was being used before it can get to the tanks - we were not able to fill the tanks fast enough,' she explained. 'So the consumption of water was faster than we can provide water in our trunk line,' she continued, adding that there is water in the truck line, but it 'cannot get up the hill because we cannot fill the tanks fast enough.'

After someone asked her for the number of hydrants that cannot get water because of these issues, Quiñones started to stumble on her words. 'We, um, we were trying to keep water at all altitudes on the Palisades, and I think about three in the morning, that's when - uh - the hydrants went dry above the Brentwood area. We were able to push water on the, on that trunk line on, on the east side of that, um, and we have some water on high elevations - 16-80,000, but at 3,000, all of the, at 3am, all of the, uh, fire hydrants went dry in the Palisades,' she added.

Quiñones said that about 20 water tanks are now being sent from construction crews to firefighters to help them continue to fight the growing blaze. 'We identified other areas in our system where tankers can re-fill - it takes about 30 minutes to re-fill about 4,000 gallons of water, and we're constantly moving that water to the fire department to get them as much water as we can. She further warned that because the department is 'pushing the water system so hard,' the quality of water 'is decreasing in the Palisades area.

A boil water notice has since been issued for the Los Angeles area over the next 48 hours, the CEO said. In the midst of the horrific fires, furious LA residents have slammed local politicians for a shocking litany of failures which have exacerbated the deadly wildfires currently razing the city. Complaints range from Mayor Karen Bass being AWOL in Africa, to fire hydrants running out of water and electricity to power cables being left on to fuel the flames.

Businessman and mayoral candidate Rick Caruso (pictured) blasted local officials for failing to refill the water supplies despite knowing that strong winds which could whip up wildfires were on the way. 'Their hands have been tied. They can't fight a fire without water and the resources that are needed. Everybody knew these winds were coming,' Caruso told Fox 11. 'The other question has to be, were all the things in place to try to mitigate the damage here? The real issue to me here is two-fold.'

'We've had decades to remove the brush in these hills that spreads so quickly, and the second is, we've got to have water. My understanding is the reservoir was not refilled in time, in a timely manner to keep the hydrants going... this is basic stuff, this isn't high science here. It's all about leadership and management that we're seeing a failure of, and all of these residents are paying the ultimate price for that,' Caruso continued.

Audio of communications between firefighters confirms that first responders ran out of water in some areas. 'We have no water, it is... we're doing the best we can up there. We are making sure that people are out of the way,' one firefighter can be heard saying. Lawyer and Pacific Palisades native Rachel Darvish, 49, whose home has likely been engulfed by the flames, questioned why officials like Mayor Karen Bass did not plan ahead despite knowing 'critical' weather conditions were on the way.

I don't know if our house is still there, what I can tell you is I have a photo of the neighbor's house which is gone,' Darvish told Fox News. 'We have questions. I know where I am right now, but I don't know where my mayor was when this was happening. I do know now where she was.' 'Nobody told us where to go or what to do. I didn't even have an evacuation order. I love the fire department, I love our fire personnel (but) we need more, where were they?' Speaking about Bass, she continued: 'For someone to be in charge of my town - where were you? Where were you when the decisions should have been made about how to get in and out of places.' Many celebrities have seen their multi-million dollar mansions burnt to the ground as the fire spread to Hollywood Hills, prompting criticism of city officials who have been blamed for failing to adequately prepare for the disaster.

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Across America, too, voters are seeing the unfolding horror as a fitting epitaph to the Biden presidency, which spent far too much time and resources pursuing politically correct causes at the expense of competent or even sane governance. Democrats are supposed to make government work, yet their wasteful incompetence has turned California from one of America’s best states into arguably its worst.
 
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Across America, too, voters are seeing the unfolding horror as a fitting epitaph to the Biden presidency, which spent far too much time and resources pursuing politically correct causes at the expense of competent or even sane governance. Democrats are supposed to make government work, yet their wasteful incompetence has turned California from one of America’s best states into arguably its worst.
Fire hydrants are intended for one house on the block on fire. Not every house on the block, and for literally miles around. There was also a utility company turning off the power during a high wind event, which is very common throughout California. With no power, water pumps don't work.

The lowest common denominators among us -- the smelly, scummy, undereducated lot -- are the ones who make things about politics during a natural disaster.

As a person -- and I mean this personally -- you're gross AF.
 
Fire hydrants are intended for one house on the block on fire. Not every house on the block, and for literally miles around. There was also a utility company turning off the power during a high wind event, which is very common throughout California. With no power, water pumps don't work.

The lowest common denominators among us -- the smelly, scummy, undereducated lot -- are the ones who make things about politics during a natural disaster.

As a person -- and I mean this personally -- you're gross AF.
LOL - The Excuse Train is out in force I see.
 
LA's water boss struggles to explain why they ran out of WATER
Los Angeles' water boss who makes $750,000 a year couldn't quite explain why fire hydrants have run dry during the disastrous wildfires in a bumbling video. During a press conference Wednesday, Janisse Quiñones (pictured), the newly appointed chief executive officer and chief engineer of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said all water storage tanks in the Pacific Palisades area 'went dry' as flames continue to rage on.

At least seven people have been killed and almost 180,000 forced to leave their homes amid the most destructive blaze in the county's history. Quiñones, who previously worked for PG&E prior to being appointed in May, said the third water tank ran out at about 3am local time Wednesday, after the first tank ran out around 4.45pm, and the second at approximately 8.30pm - each at about 1,000,000 gallons each. 'Those tanks help with the pressure on the fire hydrants in the hills of Palisades, and because we were pushing so much water in our trunk line, and so much water was being used before it can get to the tanks - we were not able to fill the tanks fast enough,' she explained. 'So the consumption of water was faster than we can provide water in our trunk line,' she continued, adding that there is water in the truck line, but it 'cannot get up the hill because we cannot fill the tanks fast enough.'

After someone asked her for the number of hydrants that cannot get water because of these issues, Quiñones started to stumble on her words. 'We, um, we were trying to keep water at all altitudes on the Palisades, and I think about three in the morning, that's when - uh - the hydrants went dry above the Brentwood area. We were able to push water on the, on that trunk line on, on the east side of that, um, and we have some water on high elevations - 16-80,000, but at 3,000, all of the, at 3am, all of the, uh, fire hydrants went dry in the Palisades,' she added.

Quiñones said that about 20 water tanks are now being sent from construction crews to firefighters to help them continue to fight the growing blaze. 'We identified other areas in our system where tankers can re-fill - it takes about 30 minutes to re-fill about 4,000 gallons of water, and we're constantly moving that water to the fire department to get them as much water as we can. She further warned that because the department is 'pushing the water system so hard,' the quality of water 'is decreasing in the Palisades area.

A boil water notice has since been issued for the Los Angeles area over the next 48 hours, the CEO said. In the midst of the horrific fires, furious LA residents have slammed local politicians for a shocking litany of failures which have exacerbated the deadly wildfires currently razing the city. Complaints range from Mayor Karen Bass being AWOL in Africa, to fire hydrants running out of water and electricity to power cables being left on to fuel the flames.

Businessman and mayoral candidate Rick Caruso (pictured) blasted local officials for failing to refill the water supplies despite knowing that strong winds which could whip up wildfires were on the way. 'Their hands have been tied. They can't fight a fire without water and the resources that are needed. Everybody knew these winds were coming,' Caruso told Fox 11. 'The other question has to be, were all the things in place to try to mitigate the damage here? The real issue to me here is two-fold.'

'We've had decades to remove the brush in these hills that spreads so quickly, and the second is, we've got to have water. My understanding is the reservoir was not refilled in time, in a timely manner to keep the hydrants going... this is basic stuff, this isn't high science here. It's all about leadership and management that we're seeing a failure of, and all of these residents are paying the ultimate price for that,' Caruso continued.

Audio of communications between firefighters confirms that first responders ran out of water in some areas. 'We have no water, it is... we're doing the best we can up there. We are making sure that people are out of the way,' one firefighter can be heard saying. Lawyer and Pacific Palisades native Rachel Darvish, 49, whose home has likely been engulfed by the flames, questioned why officials like Mayor Karen Bass did not plan ahead despite knowing 'critical' weather conditions were on the way.

I don't know if our house is still there, what I can tell you is I have a photo of the neighbor's house which is gone,' Darvish told Fox News. 'We have questions. I know where I am right now, but I don't know where my mayor was when this was happening. I do know now where she was.' 'Nobody told us where to go or what to do. I didn't even have an evacuation order. I love the fire department, I love our fire personnel (but) we need more, where were they?' Speaking about Bass, she continued: 'For someone to be in charge of my town - where were you? Where were you when the decisions should have been made about how to get in and out of places.' Many celebrities have seen their multi-million dollar mansions burnt to the ground as the fire spread to Hollywood Hills, prompting criticism of city officials who have been blamed for failing to adequately prepare for the disaster.

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Here is what I'm going to say, I don't care what letter is beside anyone's name over there, and there are Republicans, the state of California needs a LEGIT audit. That place sinks a shit ton of money.
 

Who is Kristin Crowley?​

Crowley is the first woman and first openly LGBTQ+ person to hold her post. She is married to retired firefighter Hollyn Bullock.

Her nomination came after former Fire Chief Ralph Terrazas stepped down amid growing scrutiny for not doing enough to stop sexist and racist behavior within the Los Angeles Fire Department.

If this doesn't reek of being a DEI hire I don't know what would be.
 
Fire hydrants are intended for one house on the block on fire. Not every house on the block, and for literally miles around. There was also a utility company turning off the power during a high wind event, which is very common throughout California. With no power, water pumps don't work.

The lowest common denominators among us -- the smelly, scummy, undereducated lot -- are the ones who make things about politics during a natural disaster.

As a person -- and I mean this personally -- you're gross AF.

Don't both sides of the political spectrum use tragedies, including natural disasters, to criticize their political opponents?
 
Don't both sides of the political spectrum use tragedies, including natural disasters, to criticize their political opponents?
Well let's see... When Hurricane Helene blew into North Carolina, Republicans House members (and the least among us in this forum) blamed Democrats for "seeding the clouds" and causing the hurricane.

True story.

So that's the precedent, and I don't think anyone is surprised.
 
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Who is Kristin Crowley?​

Crowley is the first woman and first openly LGBTQ+ person to hold her post. She is married to retired firefighter Hollyn Bullock.

Her nomination came after former Fire Chief Ralph Terrazas stepped down amid growing scrutiny for not doing enough to stop sexist and racist behavior within the Los Angeles Fire Department.

If this doesn't reek of being a DEI hire I don't know what would be.
Oh for fvck sakes. Gay women can't fight fires? Have you bothered to even read her credentials? You act like she just graduated school and was tossed the keys. personally, I don't care who she bangs, but what a fvcktard you are. Let me guess, like the misused $100K, if this were a Republican white dude, the fires would be out.

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Also, FTR, wood knot!

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Well let's see... When Hurricane Helene blew into North Carolina, Republicans House members (and the least among us in this forum) blamed Democrats for "seeding the clouds" and causing the hurricane.

True story.

So that's the precedent, and I don't think anyone is surprised.

I'm not surprised at all, nor am I surprised when democrats blame republicans for things, that's the way politics work unfortunately. It is always the other parties fault
 
Here is what I'm going to say, I don't care what letter is beside anyone's name over there, and there are Republicans, the state of California needs a LEGIT audit. That place sinks a shit ton of money.
Maybe they are like Iowa and gave banned their Auditor from doing his/her job?
But then MAYBE they are being audited routinely and this is indeed an infrastructure issue?
 
LOL - The Excuse Train is out in force I see.
The solution you want is to redesign the water system so that many more tanks can be filled much faster in case of a high end event like this.

The city would need to spend billions redesigning its water system to handle rare fires like this.

That's why it hasn't been done yet.

The threat has been here for decades and decades and nobody has built that infrastructure.
 
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The solution you want is to redesign the water system so that many more tanks can be filled much faster in case of a high end event like this.

The city would need to spend billions redesigning its water system to handle rare fires like this.

That's why it hasn't been done yet.

The threat has been here for decades and decades and nobody has built that infrastructure.
But apparently republicans would have done this. For sure.
 
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The solution you want is to redesign the water system so that many more tanks can be filled much faster in case of a high end event like this.

The city would need to spend billions redesigning its water system to handle rare fires like this.

That's why it hasn't been done yet.

The threat has been here for decades and decades and nobody has built that infrastructure.
Well they ought to be built…. But my taxes should be cut!
 
I'm not surprised at all, nor am I surprised when democrats blame republicans for things, that's the way politics work unfortunately. It is always the other parties fault
I don't disagree as it relates to politics in general. Each side is typically guilty of what it accuses the other side of doing.

But as I sit here I'm hard pressed to name a time when democrats directly blamed republicans for a natural disaster, in real time while the disaster was occurring.
 
The solution you want is to redesign the water system so that many more tanks can be filled much faster in case of a high end event like this.

The city would need to spend billions redesigning its water system to handle rare fires like this.

That's why it hasn't been done yet.

The threat has been here for decades and decades and nobody has built that infrastructure.
If so why is my federal tax dollars being offered by Dine and Dash Joe to 100% cover things for 180 Days?
 

Who is Kristin Crowley?​

Crowley is the first woman and first openly LGBTQ+ person to hold her post. She is married to retired firefighter Hollyn Bullock.

Her nomination came after former Fire Chief Ralph Terrazas stepped down amid growing scrutiny for not doing enough to stop sexist and racist behavior within the Los Angeles Fire Department.

If this doesn't reek of being a DEI hire I don't know what would be.
Maybe read her credentials dip shit before claiming it’s a DEI hire
 
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LA's water boss struggles to explain why they ran out of WATER
Los Angeles' water boss who makes $750,000 a year couldn't quite explain why fire hydrants have run dry during the disastrous wildfires in a bumbling video. During a press conference Wednesday, Janisse Quiñones (pictured), the newly appointed chief executive officer and chief engineer of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, said all water storage tanks in the Pacific Palisades area 'went dry' as flames continue to rage on.

At least seven people have been killed and almost 180,000 forced to leave their homes amid the most destructive blaze in the county's history. Quiñones, who previously worked for PG&E prior to being appointed in May, said the third water tank ran out at about 3am local time Wednesday, after the first tank ran out around 4.45pm, and the second at approximately 8.30pm - each at about 1,000,000 gallons each. 'Those tanks help with the pressure on the fire hydrants in the hills of Palisades, and because we were pushing so much water in our trunk line, and so much water was being used before it can get to the tanks - we were not able to fill the tanks fast enough,' she explained. 'So the consumption of water was faster than we can provide water in our trunk line,' she continued, adding that there is water in the truck line, but it 'cannot get up the hill because we cannot fill the tanks fast enough.'

After someone asked her for the number of hydrants that cannot get water because of these issues, Quiñones started to stumble on her words. 'We, um, we were trying to keep water at all altitudes on the Palisades, and I think about three in the morning, that's when - uh - the hydrants went dry above the Brentwood area. We were able to push water on the, on that trunk line on, on the east side of that, um, and we have some water on high elevations - 16-80,000, but at 3,000, all of the, at 3am, all of the, uh, fire hydrants went dry in the Palisades,' she added.

Quiñones said that about 20 water tanks are now being sent from construction crews to firefighters to help them continue to fight the growing blaze. 'We identified other areas in our system where tankers can re-fill - it takes about 30 minutes to re-fill about 4,000 gallons of water, and we're constantly moving that water to the fire department to get them as much water as we can. She further warned that because the department is 'pushing the water system so hard,' the quality of water 'is decreasing in the Palisades area.

A boil water notice has since been issued for the Los Angeles area over the next 48 hours, the CEO said. In the midst of the horrific fires, furious LA residents have slammed local politicians for a shocking litany of failures which have exacerbated the deadly wildfires currently razing the city. Complaints range from Mayor Karen Bass being AWOL in Africa, to fire hydrants running out of water and electricity to power cables being left on to fuel the flames.

Businessman and mayoral candidate Rick Caruso (pictured) blasted local officials for failing to refill the water supplies despite knowing that strong winds which could whip up wildfires were on the way. 'Their hands have been tied. They can't fight a fire without water and the resources that are needed. Everybody knew these winds were coming,' Caruso told Fox 11. 'The other question has to be, were all the things in place to try to mitigate the damage here? The real issue to me here is two-fold.'

'We've had decades to remove the brush in these hills that spreads so quickly, and the second is, we've got to have water. My understanding is the reservoir was not refilled in time, in a timely manner to keep the hydrants going... this is basic stuff, this isn't high science here. It's all about leadership and management that we're seeing a failure of, and all of these residents are paying the ultimate price for that,' Caruso continued.

Audio of communications between firefighters confirms that first responders ran out of water in some areas. 'We have no water, it is... we're doing the best we can up there. We are making sure that people are out of the way,' one firefighter can be heard saying. Lawyer and Pacific Palisades native Rachel Darvish, 49, whose home has likely been engulfed by the flames, questioned why officials like Mayor Karen Bass did not plan ahead despite knowing 'critical' weather conditions were on the way.

I don't know if our house is still there, what I can tell you is I have a photo of the neighbor's house which is gone,' Darvish told Fox News. 'We have questions. I know where I am right now, but I don't know where my mayor was when this was happening. I do know now where she was.' 'Nobody told us where to go or what to do. I didn't even have an evacuation order. I love the fire department, I love our fire personnel (but) we need more, where were they?' Speaking about Bass, she continued: 'For someone to be in charge of my town - where were you? Where were you when the decisions should have been made about how to get in and out of places.' Many celebrities have seen their multi-million dollar mansions burnt to the ground as the fire spread to Hollywood Hills, prompting criticism of city officials who have been blamed for failing to adequately prepare for the disaster.

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Please don't call them liberals. That's not what they are. When you look it up you'll find the definition doesn't fit them.
Call them "extinctionists", they leave suffering and death everywhere they attain power.
Conservatism and classical liberalism are related.
 
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Across America, too, voters are seeing the unfolding horror as a fitting epitaph to the Biden presidency, which spent far too much time and resources pursuing politically correct causes at the expense of competent or even sane governance. Democrats are supposed to make government work, yet their wasteful incompetence has turned California from one of America’s best states into arguably its worst.
The area is larger than Manhattan. How would any fire system be able to handle that. No one could plan for that.
 
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