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MSNBC Morning Joe guest

I don't think he's entirely wrong, probably mostly right.

But as long as I'm wealthy enough to keep my kids above that fold it's all good! right?
 
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Many of us have already warned about the oligarchs taking over our country, and still, we have even on this board, some questioning as to why there needs to be a wealth tax of some form or another. Couple that with an extremely radical SCOTUS that claims money is free speech, (REALLY???? WTF???), and it is very visible, to those with any eyes, that those with all of the money have taken over our country, at the loss of the vast majority of this country and their every day interests.

This is why, Morons.

You are part of the problem, and will eventually become victims as well. Time is not on your side.
 
Maher has him on quite often and he's brilliant, wiser than any politician from either major party.

He's the kinda guy I would vote for in a heartbeat. He fully understands this country is in need of some serious medicine that a lot of people aren't willing to take, but damnit, it needs to happen.
 
I have said before, supercharging the stock market at the expense of the majority of Americans is going to end this country.
Just the hint of lowering rates has poured gas on the inflation embers, but the building and real estate industry is putting intense pressure on politicians to do just that. Combined with unchecked federal spending and gen z and the millennials are f$$ked.
 
Maher has him on quite often and he's brilliant, wiser than any politician from either major party.

He's the kinda guy I would vote for in a heartbeat. He fully understands this country is in need of some serious medicine that a lot of people aren't willing to take, but damnit, it needs to happen.
I agree.

But there isn't a home for him in our two shit stain parties. He says stuff that pisses off the powers that be in both parties.

I find myself agreeing with most of what he says when I see him.

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat as well...he gets it.
 
Funny that we can have people from both sides of the political spectrum say this guy is right (and he is more right than wrong IMO). And yet nothing gets done. We are too busy arguing over pronouns apparently.

Of course nothing gets done,.. To fix the problem that he describes the people in power would need to surrender their wealth to a younger generation,.. Strangely enough, they don't want to do that.
 
Many of us have already warned about the oligarchs taking over our country, and still, we have even on this board, some questioning as to why there needs to be a wealth tax of some form or another. Couple that with an extremely radical SCOTUS that claims money is free speech, (REALLY???? WTF???), and it is very visible, to those with any eyes, that those with all of the money have taken over our country, at the loss of the vast majority of this country and their every day interests.

This is why, Morons.

You are part of the problem, and will eventually become victims as well. Time is not on your side.
You recognize the problem but your remedies are misplaced. Increasing taxes on the wealthy does nothing to help the younger generation. We need to get the deficit down, get inflation and interest rates under control, lower not raise the minimum wage to lower inflation pressures, find a way to lower college tuition and bring back a true meritocracy. We need to give the younger generation hope, let them see hard work pays off, let them see the light at the end of the tunnel.
 
You recognize the problem but your remedies are misplaced. Increasing taxes on the wealthy does nothing to help the younger generation. We need to get the deficit down, get inflation and interest rates under control, lower not raise the minimum wage to lower inflation pressures, find a way to lower college tuition and bring back a true meritocracy. We need to give the younger generation hope, let them see hard work pays off, let them see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Well government left or right through tax credit spending or tax cuts funded by deficit spending has decided that giving more wealth to individuals or corporations that are already sitting on record wealth is the best way to increase economic output.
It’s all trickle down economics. Trying to avoid short term pain.
 
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You recognize the problem but your remedies are misplaced. Increasing taxes on the wealthy does nothing to help the younger generation. We need to get the deficit down, get inflation and interest rates under control, lower not raise the minimum wage to lower inflation pressures, find a way to lower college tuition and bring back a true meritocracy. We need to give the younger generation hope, let them see hard work pays off, let them see the light at the end of the tunnel.
We need to get the oligarchs' control over government stopped if we ever really want to put the power of government back into the hands of the people. Unfortunately recent SCOTUS decisions have only broadened the power of the extremely wealthy and they seem determined to keep it. How do we reverse that?
 
Meh. Should have done nothing for COVID. Let the 1M or more die and move on. Even if it would have been 5M in the U.S., we should have just went on with life as normal.
 
I agree.

But there isn't a home for him in our two shit stain parties. He says stuff that pisses off the powers that be in both parties.

I find myself agreeing with most of what he says when I see him.

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat as well...he gets it.
I listen to his podcast quite often. He's pretty left of center, although he does let loose on people like Warren & Sanders in regards to their economic ideas.
 
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i don't disagree with anything in there

my problem with benny johnson presenting this arguement is that, while it might have gotten exacerbated post-covid, none of these forces are new...these things are decades in the making

and donald trump - the guy benny johnson constantly holds up as the key to solving eveyrthing (and the reason he's posting this clip) is not the solution for these problems...he's the physical embodiment of them
 
Of course nothing gets done,.. To fix the problem that he describes the people in power would need to surrender their wealth to a younger generation,.. Strangely enough, they don't want to do that.

Just curious, when you say "people in power", who are these people and how much are they worth? How do you suggest the people in power "surrender" their money and how does it get distributed to the younger generation.

I'm 61 and at the very tail end of the boomers. While I have a few millions, I don't consider myself rich or in power. When I was in my thirties there was a time after having kids where we had $10,000 in the bank. We didn't start accumulating money until I got into my 40's and 50's. If there's are younger people in their 30's pissed that they don't have much money, well, join the club. You don't just graduate from college and become wealthy and there's no guarantees.

What I see out of my kids is, they lived a very nice life and didn't need for much at all. We bought them cars, paid for college, paid for grad school, whatever they needed within reason. So that's what they're used to and they want to have that now that their on their own. Sometimes you have to go backwards before you can go forwards. My kids are angry too, but they can't tell me exactly why, other than what that guy is saying, the wealth is being controlled.
 
Meh. Should have done nothing for COVID. Let the 1M or more die and move on. Even if it would have been 5M in the U.S., we should have just went on with life as normal.

You say that but you can't make people do "nothing" and live normally. People are naturally going to try to protect themselves the best way they know how, so even if schools were open, bars open, there probably wouldn't be anyone there. When it comes to the government checks, now that's something that maybe would have been better to not have.
 
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You recognize the problem but your remedies are misplaced. Increasing taxes on the wealthy does nothing to help the younger generation. We need to get the deficit down, get inflation and interest rates under control, lower not raise the minimum wage to lower inflation pressures, find a way to lower college tuition and bring back a true meritocracy. We need to give the younger generation hope, let them see hard work pays off, let them see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Holy crap I mostly agree with you. If people in their 30's are trying to compare themselves to people in their 60's then that's just ridiculous. As you said, the younger generation needs to see there is a light at the end of the tunnel but I feel there's too many distraction. The younger people are seeing these youtube kids making tons of money, they now see college athletes making tons of money. They're seeing some of the younger generation making lots of money and they want to make it too. In my day, the only way to make money was to actually get a job and work, and so that's what we did. Even college athletes went to college to get a degree (except for some colleges). Now these kids are going to college to make money, they don't care about their degree. It's pretty obvious when they're now switching schools every year. How do you get a degree doing that. I could go on with the impact of Facebook as well. The kids are being fed a load of crap from all different areas.
 
You recognize the problem but your remedies are misplaced. Increasing taxes on the wealthy does nothing to help the younger generation. We need to get the deficit down, get inflation and interest rates under control, lower not raise the minimum wage to lower inflation pressures, find a way to lower college tuition and bring back a true meritocracy. We need to give the younger generation hope, let them see hard work pays off, let them see the light at the end of the tunnel.
but yet you do nothing to relieve it.
 
Holy crap I mostly agree with you. If people in their 30's are trying to compare themselves to people in their 60's then that's just ridiculous. As you said, the younger generation needs to see there is a light at the end of the tunnel but I feel there's too many distraction. The younger people are seeing these youtube kids making tons of money, they now see college athletes making tons of money. They're seeing some of the younger generation making lots of money and they want to make it too. In my day, the only way to make money was to actually get a job and work, and so that's what we did. Even college athletes went to college to get a degree (except for some colleges). Now these kids are going to college to make money, they don't care about their degree. It's pretty obvious when they're now switching schools every year. How do you get a degree doing that. I could go on with the impact of Facebook as well. The kids are being fed a load of crap from all different areas.
young kids are lazy as ****.
 
You say that but you can't make people do "nothing" and live normally. People are naturally going to try to protect themselves the best way they know how, so even if schools were open, bars open, there probably wouldn't be anyone there. When it comes to the government checks, now that's something that maybe would have been better to not have.
B.S. - People would have been there. I'm sure the big city unions might have had their teachers hold out. COVID was a huge over blown "pandemic". Yes, it was a something the killed old people at a bit higher rate than the flu, but for the average person under the age of 60, it wasn't much more deadly than the flu. The way the world handled it was pathetic.
 
Just curious, when you say "people in power", who are these people and how much are they worth? How do you suggest the people in power "surrender" their money and how does it get distributed to the younger generation.

I'd say that individuals like you and I are among the people in power, and I'm not suggesting that we surrender anything just yet,.. Far as I'm concerned, the younger generation will get what they get when we drop...
 
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B.S. - People would have been there. I'm sure the big city unions might have had their teachers hold out. COVID was a huge over blown "pandemic". Yes, it was a something the killed old people at a bit higher rate than the flu, but for the average person under the age of 60, it wasn't much more deadly than the flu. The way the world handled it was pathetic.
It was a big data issue. Especially in cities. Yes, the rates were low, but the amount of infections made sure a high number of seriously ill filled the hospitals. If we had done nothing some of those health care systems would have broke. That’s when the deaths would go from a couple million to 5 million+. That was the true fear of the people in charge. They wanted to do everything to avoid worst possible outcome. The significant deterioration of US Healthcare system. As above mark said hindsight is 20/20.
 
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Many of us have already warned about the oligarchs taking over our country, and still, we have even on this board, some questioning as to why there needs to be a wealth tax of some form or another. Couple that with an extremely radical SCOTUS that claims money is free speech, (REALLY???? WTF???), and it is very visible, to those with any eyes, that those with all of the money have taken over our country, at the loss of the vast majority of this country and their every day interests.

This is why, Morons.

You are part of the problem, and will eventually become victims as well. Time is not on your side.
hard to believe anybody could get out of that , that more taxes are in order

when money is not as plentiful
 
I agree.

But there isn't a home for him in our two shit stain parties. He says stuff that pisses off the powers that be in both parties.

I find myself agreeing with most of what he says when I see him.

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat as well...he gets it.
He's probably one or two cycles away from being able to run. He needs more old people to die off, because that message will go bonkers with people under 40 right now and I bet he could capture a lot of that vote. Of course, it will mean nothing if everyone keeps voting in the same shitstains into Congress that don't even represent the constituents in this country so everyone will blame him when nothing changes.
 
B.S. - People would have been there. I'm sure the big city unions might have had their teachers hold out. COVID was a huge over blown "pandemic". Yes, it was a something the killed old people at a bit higher rate than the flu, but for the average person under the age of 60, it wasn't much more deadly than the flu. The way the world handled it was pathetic.

Wow, tell the hospitals that it was overblown. You can make up in your own mind that is was nothing but that would be false.
 
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Wow, tell the hospitals that it was overblown. You can make up in your own mind that is was nothing but that would be false.
I know people who worked in hospitals who said it was basically dead in the hospital because all surgeries and what not were cancelled. More people probably died from delayed surgeries/diagnosis than COVID.
 
I know people who worked in hospitals who said it was basically dead in the hospital because all surgeries and what not were cancelled. More people probably died from delayed surgeries/diagnosis than COVID.

I'll agree with you that there were a lot of "dead in the hospital".
 
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