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my take on the RB

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IA had way to many injuries and they started 14 underclass men,

Stanford in the 1st 7:30 of the 1st Quarter scored like this
75 Yard passing TD
85 Yard punt return for a TD
66 Yard pic 6

suddenly they are up 21-0 and only had 75 yards of offense, this change the way Stanford played defense as now they could and did load the box to stop the run and dared CJ to throw the ball. this allowed Stanford to sack CJ 7 times. 50 minutes and 50 second IA scored 16 points to 17 points by Stanford, Stanfords QB went 11-20 for 183 yard 75 yards came on that 1 pass play, and he added 1 more pass for a 40 yard TD pass with 1 minute 40 seconds left, when all Stanford need to do was run the clock out,

Stanford did it to pad their stats as their QB ended up 12-21 for 223 yards. for the game,

McCaffery set the ROSE BOWL RECORD FOR All Purpose yards HE NEVER EVER CAME CLOSE TO THE NATIONAL RECORD. even JR put up more total yards than McCaffery as JR had 518 total yards in a single game this season 440 yards passing and 78 yards rushing.

Stanford had 206 yards rushing with McCaffery having 172 yards rushing, pretty avg rushing yardage compared to what IA has seen the last few years, sorry but a team that only gains 429 total yards is not that impressive when 115 passing yards came on 2 passes.

IA's game plan changed because of that pic 6. IA could have just as easily scored on the possession making the score 14-7 at best and 14-0 at worst, even a 3 fg changes the complexion of the game as Stanford can't stack the box and dare IA to throw the ball,

now had Stanford rolled up 600+ yards of total offense THEN I WOULD BE CONCERNED, most of the mistakes or breakdowns can/will be fixed,

if Ott comes back the pass rush improves EVEN if he does not I expect Doyle to add another 10-15 lbs of muscle onto Hesse, remember when Ott 1st broke in he weighed 235 lbs, his SO year he weighed 245lbs.
his true SR year he weighed 270 lbs, each year he improved with increased muscle mass, so if Hesse gains another 10 lbs that would put him at 250 lbs

muscle weight on a DL'man can and does improve play not to mention starting for 8 games. then starting 6'8 270 lb Nelson in place of 6'2 252 lb Meier is a major improvement, as good as RSSO Jewell and SO Neiman were they will also improve,

to back me up all you have to do is look at what RSSR Fisher did, 1st 4 years nothing not a peep, then as a 5th year player he starts.

this is what KF and his staff does best and that is develope players,
 
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As the game settled in a bit, Stanford wasn't rolling on every possession, but it's really hard for me to think they just didn't take their foot off the gas.

Iowa was beaten in every phase of the game, on nearly every fundamental level, and in ways rarely seen in the last 15 years.

To do anything other than tip your cap and give credit to Stanford for completely outplaying and outclassing Iowa physically and athletically would be improper.
 
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Iowa was unable to match Stanford's intensity to start the game and it quickly got out of hand. The same thing happened the previous year against Tennessee.

The Iowa coaches bear most of the responsibility for that.
 
I enjoy 12 day old analysis. I can wait for a break down on the state of the union on Jan. 24.
 
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Stanford averaged almost 8 yards per play. They dominated Iowa in every facet of the game. It happens. We'll get another shot at ten next year in the playoffs and hopefully it will go a little different.
 
Stanford is better than Iowa. (I couldn't think of anything more simple.)
 
I cant get over how many plays we had players sliding and slipping all over. I am ok with admitting that Stanford was better but you have to think that game is a little different if we keep our footing some of those plays.

On Stanfords opening score you see Fisher cut to probably get a hand on that pass and falls to the ground. Don't remember Stanford slipping once.
 
So when Stanford got up by 21 they decided to stack the box and dare Beathard to pass? Interesting strategy to change to because they are up 21. More likely is that was their plan all along, make Iowa's WR's beat them while shutting down the run. I still haven't rewatched the game (watched it live) but I assume Stanford went prevent in the 4th quarter or maybe they stacked the box to make Iowa pass?
 
Iowa was unable to match Stanford's intensity to start the game and it quickly got out of hand. The same thing happened the previous year against Tennessee.

The Iowa coaches bear most of the responsibility for that.
what intensity? that pic 6 was all on your messiah of a QB CJ he sent the mail by walking carrier, even my 16 month old Grandson could intercepted that pass,

on the 7 sacks he constantly stepped into the pass rushers rather than getting out of the box and throwing it away,, CJ is supposed to be this great runner, yeah right and if he is that hurt he has no business being in the game, 2012 all over again then sticking with a QB that was not getting the job done.

even in the game vs Tennessee again CJ FAILED. 1ST down on the Tenn 31 YL CJ fumbles, then IA gets a 1st down inside Tenn 10 yard line for a 1st n 10 and CJ throws a interception. it is that that CJ gets named the starter a week or so later,

KF named CJ the starter only to keep him on the roster after CJ threaten to leave, in the end JR Graduates and tranfers to Michigan.

this season the run game and the defense bailed CJ out of 2-3 losses, JR throw for over 3000 yards in 13 games with a high game of 440 yards passing 6 TD's with 78 yards rushing 1 TD for a game high of 518 total yards and 7 TD's IN ONE GAME.

last season the rush defense was 56th this year the rush defense was 10th last season IA had 2 ball carrier go over 100+ yards in a game out of 13 games, this season IA.

so yes Stanford dared CJ to throw the ball, after souting him they saw him throw for 97 on 16-21 against a pass defense that was giving up 290+ ypg and went 0-9 on 3rd down conversion,

wouldn't you dare a QB that did that to beat you thru the air?
 
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you are definitely one of the better Kilroy impersonators. i do hope that kilroy is alive and well. and yes you are right if only JR (who i am happy for and cheered for all year) would have stayed iowa would have won the national title.
 
what intensity? that pic 6 was all on your messiah of a QB CJ he sent the mail by walking carrier, even my 16 month old Grandson could intercepted that pass,

on the 7 sacks he constantly stepped into the pass rushers rather than getting out of the box and throwing it away,, CJ is supposed to be this great runner, yeah right and if he is that hurt he has no business being in the game, 2012 all over again then sticking with a QB that was not getting the job done.

even in the game vs Tennessee again CJ FAILED. 1ST down on the Tenn 31 YL CJ fumbles, then IA gets a 1st down inside Tenn 10 yard line for a 1st n 10 and CJ throws a interception. it is that that CJ gets named the starter a week or so later,

KF named CJ the starter only to keep him on the roster after CJ threaten to leave, in the end JR Graduates and tranfers to Michigan.

this season the run game and the defense bailed CJ out of 2-3 losses, JR throw for over 3000 yards in 13 games with a high game of 440 yards passing 6 TD's with 78 yards rushing 1 TD for a game high of 518 total yards and 7 TD's IN ONE GAME.

last season the rush defense was 56th this year the rush defense was 10th last season IA had 2 ball carrier go over 100+ yards in a game out of 13 games, this season IA.

so yes Stanford dared CJ to throw the ball, after souting him they saw him throw for 97 on 16-21 against a pass defense that was giving up 290+ ypg and went 0-9 on 3rd down conversion,

wouldn't you dare a QB that did that to beat you thru the air?

Iowa beat down Nebraska. Made it look easy. Destroyed that team on both sides of the lines. CJ is a winner. the Nebraska QB threw 4 INTs and is a loser. He or anyone else can throw for a million yds and when you end the season 6-7 u r a loser by definition.

CJ was not the problem in any game, particularly the losses.
 
what intensity? that pic 6 was all on your messiah of a QB CJ he sent the mail by walking carrier, even my 16 month old Grandson could intercepted that pass,

on the 7 sacks he constantly stepped into the pass rushers rather than getting out of the box and throwing it away,, CJ is supposed to be this great runner, yeah right and if he is that hurt he has no business being in the game, 2012 all over again then sticking with a QB that was not getting the job done.

even in the game vs Tennessee again CJ FAILED. 1ST down on the Tenn 31 YL CJ fumbles, then IA gets a 1st down inside Tenn 10 yard line for a 1st n 10 and CJ throws a interception. it is that that CJ gets named the starter a week or so later,

KF named CJ the starter only to keep him on the roster after CJ threaten to leave, in the end JR Graduates and tranfers to Michigan.

this season the run game and the defense bailed CJ out of 2-3 losses, JR throw for over 3000 yards in 13 games with a high game of 440 yards passing 6 TD's with 78 yards rushing 1 TD for a game high of 518 total yards and 7 TD's IN ONE GAME.

last season the rush defense was 56th this year the rush defense was 10th last season IA had 2 ball carrier go over 100+ yards in a game out of 13 games, this season IA.

so yes Stanford dared CJ to throw the ball, after souting him they saw him throw for 97 on 16-21 against a pass defense that was giving up 290+ ypg and went 0-9 on 3rd down conversion,

wouldn't you dare a QB that did that to beat you thru the air?
Go away
 
p*** off. I speak the truth and never bought into the CJ Hype.
You just sound like an idiot. KF made the right move making CJ the starter. 12 wins and a trip to the Rose Bowl. The team rallied around CJ and the decision to make him the starter.
 
what intensity? that pic 6 was all on your messiah of a QB CJ he sent the mail by walking carrier, even my 16 month old Grandson could intercepted that pass,

on the 7 sacks he constantly stepped into the pass rushers rather than getting out of the box and throwing it away,, CJ is supposed to be this great runner, yeah right and if he is that hurt he has no business being in the game, 2012 all over again then sticking with a QB that was not getting the job done.

even in the game vs Tennessee again CJ FAILED. 1ST down on the Tenn 31 YL CJ fumbles, then IA gets a 1st down inside Tenn 10 yard line for a 1st n 10 and CJ throws a interception. it is that that CJ gets named the starter a week or so later,

KF named CJ the starter only to keep him on the roster after CJ threaten to leave, in the end JR Graduates and tranfers to Michigan.

this season the run game and the defense bailed CJ out of 2-3 losses, JR throw for over 3000 yards in 13 games with a high game of 440 yards passing 6 TD's with 78 yards rushing 1 TD for a game high of 518 total yards and 7 TD's IN ONE GAME.

last season the rush defense was 56th this year the rush defense was 10th last season IA had 2 ball carrier go over 100+ yards in a game out of 13 games, this season IA.

so yes Stanford dared CJ to throw the ball, after souting him they saw him throw for 97 on 16-21 against a pass defense that was giving up 290+ ypg and went 0-9 on 3rd down conversion,

wouldn't you dare a QB that did that to beat you thru the air?


Great Kilroy is back. One of the best parts of 2015 season besides going 12-0 during regular season is not having to listen to his idiotic post.

Even after this great season you are still trying to justify Rudock over CJ which is just laughable. One thing you kept hearing about the difference between 14' and 15' teams was LEADERSHIP and all the offensive players kept talking about how great of a leader and composed CJ was. No way Iowa wins vs ISU without CJ let alone no way JR leads Iowa on final drive to set up Koehn for FG against Pitt. Plus if you want to do comparisons between 14' and 15' squads look at the OL JR had compared to this year with all the injuries with 3 new players playing tackle along with Welsh. But go ahead and quote CJ's game against Nebby where Iowa Defense was controlling the game and no reason to force throws in the wind. I mean in retrospect look what Barrett of OSU did against MSU pedestrian #s and look how he followed it up against Michigan & ND.

JR left didn't fight for his job but things worked out for him at Michigan and things for sure worked out well for Iowa with CJ being the starter. There is a reason CJ was 2nd team all big even though others in conference like sudfeld and rudock had better stats.
 
what intensity? that pic 6 was all on your messiah of a QB CJ he sent the mail by walking carrier, even my 16 month old Grandson could intercepted that pass,

on the 7 sacks he constantly stepped into the pass rushers rather than getting out of the box and throwing it away,, CJ is supposed to be this great runner, yeah right and if he is that hurt he has no business being in the game, 2012 all over again then sticking with a QB that was not getting the job done.

even in the game vs Tennessee again CJ FAILED. 1ST down on the Tenn 31 YL CJ fumbles, then IA gets a 1st down inside Tenn 10 yard line for a 1st n 10 and CJ throws a interception. it is that that CJ gets named the starter a week or so later,

KF named CJ the starter only to keep him on the roster after CJ threaten to leave, in the end JR Graduates and tranfers to Michigan.

this season the run game and the defense bailed CJ out of 2-3 losses, JR throw for over 3000 yards in 13 games with a high game of 440 yards passing 6 TD's with 78 yards rushing 1 TD for a game high of 518 total yards and 7 TD's IN ONE GAME.

last season the rush defense was 56th this year the rush defense was 10th last season IA had 2 ball carrier go over 100+ yards in a game out of 13 games, this season IA.

so yes Stanford dared CJ to throw the ball, after souting him they saw him throw for 97 on 16-21 against a pass defense that was giving up 290+ ypg and went 0-9 on 3rd down conversion,

wouldn't you dare a QB that did that to beat you thru the air?
hawkjazz aka Kilroy=HATER no matter what CJ does (wins 12 in a row) he will always hate CJ. Still butt hurt over JR getting beat out are we Kilroy ? Don't worry the banhammer will soon fall upon you once again.
 
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Iowa beat down Nebraska. Made it look easy. Destroyed that team on both sides of the lines. CJ is a winner. the Nebraska QB threw 4 INTs and is a loser. He or anyone else can throw for a million yds and when you end the season 6-7 u r a loser by definition.

CJ was not the problem in any game, particularly the losses.

Personally I thought our offense played pretty crappy in the nebby game, and the stats say the same. Nebraska had the ball 50% more than we did, got almost double the yards, more than twice as many first downs, 7 3rd down conv vs 0 for us and triple the passing yards! You can't say our offense helped win that game. You can say our D won the game or that armstrong gave us the game...but in no way did the offense destroy them lol. The O also struggled against the other good teams they played(wis msu stan). We average 13/pts a game against those 3. The offense certainly struggled in some games and you can't say none of that is on the QB!

That said I think we're better off with CJ than JR. It is sad to see how much better JR got with 1 year at michigan though.
 
Give CJ the WR players from Michigan, and I think he would have much better numbers. Also, he just wasn't the same on long throws after the injury.
 
My take: Murphy's law at its finest
1) Several players really dinged up and/or actually injured due to the physical/awesome Big10 CG(did not make it public b/c Iowa way is not to make excuses. Several OL injured and out, the ones that were playing were pretty dinged up too. Lomax was far from 100%, CJB was far from 100%
2) Motivation: Yeah it was the Rose Bowl, but lets be honest we were 27 seconds from being Big Ten champs and playing for opportunity to be National Champions, that takes a lot out players (especially 18-22 year olds)
3) Stanford is really good!
4) Luck ran out, I mean 10 seconds in we are down 7, get a little bit going on offense-penalty-punt-TD all the sudden down 14, driving the ball CJB makes a mistake by delaying the throw on an out boom down 21.
5) C Mac is really good, his PR for TD was special! We had him bracketed and he just split the two and then made everybody mis
6) Players who normally make plays (even simple ones) just didn't. Vandy had a few easy drops, HCC had a big drop, when we got down big defenders got out of position trying to make a play, bad timing penalties, etc

With all that being said (I was at the game) the coaches kept coaching, the players kept playing, and not a single person on the sideline just packed it up. Small victory yes, but I was very pleased to at least see that
 
hawkjazz aka Kilroy=HATER no matter what CJ does (wins 12 in a row) he will always hate CJ. Still butt hurt over JR getting beat out are we Kilroy ? Don't worry the banhammer will soon fall upon you once again.
I was not as sour on JR as most, however; I still saw the potential and loved CJB! Coaches made a tough and right decision and it worked out for everybody involved, that rarely happens and I for one am glad it turned out that way (although I despise Michigan and Harbaugh)
 
p*** off. I speak the truth and never bought into the CJ Hype.
Dude, you just are not that bright.....the hype was last summer b/c he had yet to prove anything. If you watched this season it is not hype, CJB is the real deal and there is no arguing that b/c it is fact. I like JR too, but CJB will go down as the best QB in KF era and when/if he is healthy next year he will get drafted and I think do very very well in the NFL..
 
Stanford averaged almost 8 yards per play. They dominated Iowa in every facet of the game. It happens. We'll get another shot at ten next year in the playoffs and hopefully it will go a little different.

Yes they did and I didn't realize that they lose their ENTIRE offensive line and QB. While McCaffrey is a special player, he might find it a little tougher to run next year, with a whole new O-Line.
 
Yes they did and I didn't realize that they lose their ENTIRE offensive line and QB. While McCaffrey is a special player, he might find it a little tougher to run next year, with a whole new O-Line.

Stanford OL loses 2 starters....although they are All-American LG Josh Garnett and All-Pac-12 LT Kyle Murphy, which is notable. Stanford AD posts players' academic years, not eligibility.
 
Stanford OL loses 2 starters....although they are All-American LG Josh Garnett and All-Pac-12 LT Kyle Murphy, which is notable. Stanford AD posts players' academic years, not eligibility.

I thought during the Rose Bowl telecast they said that the OL was being replaced because majority were seniors and the junior was going pro?? I could of swore I heard that.

Well regardless you could put a Junior high offensive line in front of McCaffrey and he would run wild on anyone. The kid is a special talent.
 
Hawkjizz, Jake had better stats because:

Michigan's O-line was pretty good in pass protection while Iowa's O-line struggled in that area. CJ didn't have the time to wait for separation, if any, from our receivers.
Michigan has a much better receiving corps than Iowa.
CJ did a hell of a job all year playing hurt and having a defense in his face. I admit, his downside is pocket presence with a pass rush.
 
CJ's numbers weren't all that great but you can't argue 12-0. That is the number that matters and we don't get to 12-0 without CJ's leadership.
 
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