My thoughts on the Hawks

[Todd Conner]

My thoughts on the Hawks

The 2022 college wrestling season is drawing to an end. The Hawks have only two dual meets before the tournament season kicks in. Iowa looked good in defeating #16 Wisconsin 29-6 Saturday. I like what I saw from the lineup. This is the time of year when morning runs put the final touch of...

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It is great to be an Iowa Wrestling fan.

Go Hawks!

 

[texas twister]

I think you know more about Ayala than you are letting us know. Just my hunch.
Thanks for all the write-ups.

 

[Todd Conner]

I think you know more about Ayala than you are letting us know. Just my hunch.
Thanks for all the write-ups.

No I do not.

 

[blcoach80]

Maybe they are still looking for Cory Clark's shoulder brace for Drake before they send him back on the mat?

 

[fanpujols5]

Maybe they are still looking for Cory Clark's shoulder brace for Drake before they send him back on the mat?

dont forget the tapped wrist as well.

 

[el dub]

Maybe they are still looking for Cory Clark's shoulder brace for Drake before they send him back on the mat?

I hope not. Those things can’t be THAT expensive.

 

[Redm18]

How exactly do these braces work? Do they attempt to limit range of motion?

 

[LIV4GOD]

How exactly do these braces work? Do they attempt to limit range of motion?

I think it's more psychological than anything. A reminder. It's not like there is carbon fiber/titanium bracing around the shoulder keeping it in place. It's freakin' neoprene. It may keep it in when it's just flopping around.

 

[Section25]

Neoprene compression braces do work. They decrease proprioceptive deficits, stabilize, assist, or restrict certain movements. With a brace on, certain athletes have better glenohumeral joint position with maximal external rotation. People just don't have trust in their shoulder with some injuries and bracing just gives them a better sense that their shoulder won't give out. To some degree you could consider this psychological, but there is also the fact that at extreme ranges of shoulder external rotation it can help with subluxations. I personally like them for added warmth in the tissues and tendons in the shoulder area.

 

[acuhawk]

Unless something recently changed it's not IF Ayala will be back this season but when. They also will soon be less conditioning and more individual work. Ok state line up looks pretty tough. Cowboy61 or anyone have insights to how they have been losing meets to lesser teams? Guys missing or hurt?

 

[jmadden1998]

Neoprene compression braces do work. They decrease proprioceptive deficits, stabilize, assist, or restrict certain movements. With a brace on, certain athletes have better glenohumeral joint position with maximal external rotation. People just don't have trust in their shoulder with some injuries and bracing just gives them a better sense that their shoulder won't give out. To some degree you could consider this psychological, but there is also the fact that at extreme ranges of shoulder external rotation it can help with subluxations. I personally like them for added warmth in the tissues and tendons in the shoulder area.

 

[Section25]

Basically, if you reach behind you into the back seat with a torn shoulder, (Labrum) to grab your child's sippy cup, bam out of socket it comes. After much screaming and yelling, some poor fool comes up and puts one hand on the front of your shoulder and one hand on the back and pushes the front of your shoulder really hard to put it back in the socket. Yelling stops and you quit reaching behind you for fear it will come out of the socket. You take an old wet suit and cut it up into a crude harness, stich it around the arm and Velcro that thing in place with the Velcro from your grandpas New Balance shoes. Good as new psychologically and it feels like you might be able to reach above your head a little and tip a can of brew until you have 20,000 to have a surgeon fix the tear and make it hurt like heck for about 16 weeks.

 

[LIV4GOD]

Neoprene compression braces do work. They decrease proprioceptive deficits, stabilize, assist, or restrict certain movements. With a brace on, certain athletes have better glenohumeral joint position with maximal external rotation. People just don't have trust in their shoulder with some injuries and bracing just gives them a better sense that their shoulder won't give out. To some degree you could consider this psychological, but there is also the fact that at extreme ranges of shoulder external rotation it can help with subluxations. I personally like them for added warmth in the tissues and tendons in the shoulder area.

Thanks for your expertise. I don't think what you said is practically far from what I said, which was in far simpler terms, lol. I would say they do help, but "work" is relative, and so is "help."

If they really worked then people like Cory Clark and Kem could extend and try to pull those tough legs in. They can't. Because neoprene isn't winning against hundreds of pounds of pulling force. They have to significantl adjust their wrestling.

I've had various braces over the years. Even the carbon fiber/titanium braces couldn't always keep my joints in. Why? They're only attached to soft tissue. There is only so much one can do, especially in the ultra-stress-on-the-joints sport of wrestling.

It's actually amazing to me what people like Kemerer can still do. What a boss.

 

[IAChief32]

Neoprene compression braces do work. They decrease proprioceptive deficits, stabilize, assist, or restrict certain movements. With a brace on, certain athletes have better glenohumeral joint position with maximal external rotation. People just don't have trust in their shoulder with some injuries and bracing just gives them a better sense that their shoulder won't give out. To some degree you could consider this psychological, but there is also the fact that at extreme ranges of shoulder external rotation it can help with subluxations. I personally like them for added warmth in the tissues and tendons in the shoulder area.

 

[UndercoverHawk]

Basically, if you reach behind you into the back seat with a torn shoulder, (Labrum) to grab your child's sippy cup, bam out of socket it comes. After much screaming and yelling, some poor fool comes up and puts one hand on the front of your shoulder and one hand on the back and pushes the front of your shoulder really hard to put it back in the socket. Yelling stops and you quit reaching behind you for fear it will come out of the socket. You take an old wet suit and cut it up into a crude harness, stich it around the arm and Velcro that thing in place with the Velcro from your grandpas New Balance shoes. Good as new psychologically and it feels like you might be able to reach above your head a little and tip a can of brew until you have 20,000 to have a surgeon fix the tear and make it hurt like heck for about 16 weeks.

That was kinda my experience with labrum tear. Didn’t really hurt in every day life, but there was little strength and if it did come out then it hurt like a bitch. Had it pop out while sleeping (on my stomach, arm trapped underneath me) and couldn’t roll myself over. Also had it pop out while reaching for my seatbelt when I got in my truck.

 

[MN Hawk Fan]

My sons college wrestling career was ended by two shoulder surgeries, one on each. Torn labrum in both and a torn deltoid and rotator cuff in the other. Just couldn’t keep them from popping out even with every brace that has been created. He was a great hand fighter until the shoulders went out. Guys like Kemmerer and Clark have a lot of gonads letting the fur fly knowing any moment could be the end.

 

[MVPFAN]

I'm pretty sure Spencer had his shoulder fixed up in highschool.

 

[Mike Zierath]

Basically, if you reach behind you into the back seat with a torn shoulder, (Labrum) to grab your child's sippy cup, bam out of socket it comes. After much screaming and yelling, some poor fool comes up and puts one hand on the front of your shoulder and one hand on the back and pushes the front of your shoulder really hard to put it back in the socket. Yelling stops and you quit reaching behind you for fear it will come out of the socket. You take an old wet suit and cut it up into a crude harness, stich it around the arm and Velcro that thing in place with the Velcro from your grandpas New Balance shoes. Good as new psychologically and it feels like you might be able to reach above your head a little and tip a can of brew until you have 20,000 to have a surgeon fix the tear and make it hurt like heck for about 16 weeks.

Unfortunately, I'm falling apart. Its NOT something I'm looking forward to and will continue to put it off as long as I can. Kind of like the knee replacement I need. Its all gonna happen in the next few years for me though.

Z

 

[PD4thespawn]

Unfortunately, I'm falling apart. Its NOT something I'm looking forward to and will continue to put it off as long as I can. Kind of like the knee replacement I need. Its all gonna happen in the next few years for me though.

Z

On your knee problem have you tried a glucosamine and chondroitin pill. Move free-It works for me. Just have to pay attention to dosage at first. After 2 weeks I had to go to half dose.

 

[ping72]

On your knee problem have you tried a glucosamine and chondroitin pill. Move free-It works for me. Just have to pay attention to dosage at first. After 2 weeks I had to go to half dose.

You make it sound like one would need anything more than the correct mix of essential oils.

 

[SPOONER]

Unless something recently changed it's not IF Ayala will be back this season but when. They also will soon be less conditioning and more individual work. Ok state line up looks pretty tough. Cowboy61 or anyone have insights to how they have been losing meets to lesser teams? Guys missing or hurt?

It’s not all that good and their Ferrari is in the shop. Also didn’t have their 125 vs MO.

 

[js8793]

I'm pretty sure Spencer had his shoulder fixed up in highschool.

he won his first jr world title with a torn labrum

 

[PD4thespawn]

You make it sound like one would need anything more than the correct mix of essential oils.

I know many uses for essential oils. Plantars wort for instance. use 2-3 drops peppermint oil for about 10 days on the wart.

My knee would just give out just walking and couldn't be trusted until I used the Move Free. I just suggested it before the surgery option. Really tightened it up.

 

[so cal hawkfan]

Neoprene compression braces do work. They decrease proprioceptive deficits, stabilize, assist, or restrict certain movements. With a brace on, certain athletes have better glenohumeral joint position with maximal external rotation. People just don't have trust in their shoulder with some injuries and bracing just gives them a better sense that their shoulder won't give out. To some degree you could consider this psychological, but there is also the fact that at extreme ranges of shoulder external rotation it can help with subluxations. I personally like them for added warmth in the tissues and tendons in the shoulder area.

You’re a subluxation

 

[natchrlman]

kind of a new concept for the cesspool.... caught me by surprise 😂

 

[Mike Zierath]

On your knee problem have you tried a glucosamine and chondroitin pill. Move free-It works for me. Just have to pay attention to dosage at first. After 2 weeks I had to go to half dose.

I have not. 4 surgeries on it already, just a bone on bone scenario. Not much meniscus left in that left knee. It’s just a matter of time and how long I can handle the daily grind. I have taken the rooster comb shots, but not in awhile. I call it chicken grease, it works, for awhile.

Right knee has had torn meniscus since 12/26/13. I know exactly where and how that happened. Just haven’t done anything about it. It’s time though.

I wear a compression sleeve brace on the left one when I’m not wearing shorts. It helps a lot, just keeping g the patella from floating too much. Provides better stability.

the shoulder is starting to be a real issue. I fish competitively, and I have a week long fun trip next week. We will see how it holds up after 1500 to 2000 casts a day for 5.5 days.

Z

 

[Mike Zierath]

On your knee problem have you tried a glucosamine and chondroitin pill. Move free-It works for me. Just have to pay attention to dosage at first. After 2 weeks I had to go to half dose.

But, I am interested, so will do a bit of research…

Z

 

[Kwoodhawk]

But, I am interested, so will do a bit of research…

Z

I had success with glucosamine and chondroitin with an elbow issue many years ago.

Currently getting about 50% pain reduction with bone on bone thumb issue.

 

[Mike Zierath]

I had success with glucosamine and chondroitin with an elbow issue many years ago.

Currently getting about 50% pain reduction with bone on bone thumb issue.

I was just so brutal to my body when I was young……

now I’m gonna be 59 next month. It reminds me every day of the stupidity of my youth. I can only imagine how much more fun it will be when I’m 75 or 80! Lol!

Z

 

[Kwoodhawk]

I was just so brutal to my body when I was young……

now I’m gonna be 59 next month. It reminds me every day of the stupidity of my youth. I can only imagine how much more fun it will be when I’m 75 or 80! Lol!

Z

I turn a full 3/4 Century old this coming March 11th. (That's 75 to all of you young punks whining about old men posting things that upset you Sissies.)

Xrays on thumb year ago. Bone on bone the Dr. said. Glucosamine works even at advancing age.

 

[Mike Zierath]

I turn a full 3/4 Century old this coming March 11th. (That's 75 to all of you young punks whining about old men posting things that upset you Sissies.)

Xrays on thumb year ago. Bone on bone the Dr. said. Glucosamine works even at advancing age.

59 on March 12th

i’m sure I will get a happy birthday “Dad” from @Fitzhawk

Z

 

[grapplefann]

I turn a full 3/4 Century old this coming March 11th. (That's 75 to all of you young punks whining about old men posting things that upset you Sissies.)

Xrays on thumb year ago. Bone on bone the Dr. said. Glucosamine works even at advancing age.

Kwood, I have one of those thumbs, too. Got a thumb joint that looks like a walnut, and another joint that locks up sometimes. Everyone on this board knows where those came from. Glucosamine doesn't work for me, but massage and stretching do. Turned the big Seven Zero last week.

 

[RothMatt]

On your knee problem have you tried a glucosamine and chondroitin pill. Move free-It works for me. Just have to pay attention to dosage at first. After 2 weeks I had to go to half dose.

I asked the surgeon who operated on my knee if I should take it and could it be beneficial he talked for awhile without answering me. Well, Doc, does it work? I'm not really sure but I take it.
There isn't really anybody that test the effectiveness of vitamins or supplements of that kind. That's really sad when you think how many dollars are spent nationwide.

 

[Kwoodhawk]

I asked the surgeon who operated on my knee if I should take it and could it be beneficial he talked for awhile without answering me. Well, Doc, does it work? I'm not really sure but I take it.
There isn't really anybody that test the effectiveness of vitamins or supplements of that kind. That's really sad when you think how many dollars are spent nationwide.

Mrs. Kwood has knee pain from College tennis damage and they get painful if she sits too long on a long drive or in a movie theater for instance. Got her taking glucosamine and the pain went away. Stops taking it and gradually the pain starts coming back. Then has to start taking it again and all is well again. She has to stay on it all the time.

Got my chiropractor taking it and pain in his thumbs went away for him. His thumb pain would wake him up at night quite a bit and hinder his sleep.

There are studies done all the time on nutrients. Life Extension Foundation out of Florida publishes a monthly magazine you can read online that has articles about supplements and they have quite a few footnotes to different studies done where they gather their information.

You can use their online search engine to read up on specificnutrients if you like also.

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[millhawk]

I was just so brutal to my body when I was young……

now I’m gonna be 59 next month. It reminds me every day of the stupidity of my youth. I can only imagine how much more fun it will be when I’m 75 or 80! Lol!

Z

If you do knee replacement, work hard in your rehab and do extra on your own. 59 is fairly young for replacement so you should do well.

 

[nu2u]

I read through this thread beginning to end and now I feel like visitor in the community room at the nursing home during afternoon coffee.

 

[Mike Zierath]

I asked the surgeon who operated on my knee if I should take it and could it be beneficial he talked for awhile without answering me. Well, Doc, does it work? I'm not really sure but I take it.
There isn't really anybody that test the effectiveness of vitamins or supplements of that kind. That's really sad when you think how many dollars are spent nationwide.

wait, so.....the doc takes it?

Mike

 

[Kwoodhawk]

I read through this thread beginning to end and now I feel like visitor in the community room at the nursing home during afternoon coffee.

Hearing aides in Aisle 3, Depends in aisle 4.

 

[RothMatt]

wait, so.....the doc takes it?

Mike

Yes, but he couldn't tell if there were any got any benefits from it and didn't really give me a yes or no to my question. He just might have a little more extra cash to throw at a placebo.