It’s too bad Brad didn’t start at Iowa for at least 3 years. Then we’d have a clear # 2, and maybe someone in the conversation for #1 overall.
Nate Stanley will shatter once thought untouchable Chuck Long School Record
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It’s too bad Brad didn’t start at Iowa for at least 3 years. Then we’d have a clear # 2, and maybe someone in the conversation for #1 overall.
I disagree about him being a gunslinger. He was a precision passer w / very good accuracy that could read defenses and find seams in zones. Chuck’s Arm strength was adequate but not overwhelming. He had very good weapons to throw to. He would have been a great west coast type QB in the pros if he had gone to the right team.
BB had a lightning in a bottle senior year-very glad it was Iowa's lightning-but he wasn't really ready for regular downs as a junior. Showed some skills but also a lot of mental errors. But what senior season!
Not for the era. Pass defense was much more effective 35 years ago. Easier to get interceptions when you can run through the receiver.
I get that. I meant if he came in as a Freshman and then started three years.
Dont be a lazy turd and go look for yourself...
such a fool you are 100% of the time
Oh balonney. Almost everything was 2-4 basic zones against nearly every team we played , with a heavy blitzing team bringing it maybe 10 times per game. The rare team that went man, we licked our chops. Why, Good line, good running game, and they couldn’t cover long enough. Iowa had a progressive passing game then. Longs stats(beyond winning 10 as a senior) are remarkable because no one else, well hardly anyone else could throw well or as much...Illinois, Purdue, Miami, some pac 10 and wac teams
Fran have you verified this documentation or debunked it? Looks like the ball is in your court now.
Chad LeistikowVerified account@ChadLeistikow 8h8 hours ago
With back-to-back seasons with 26 touchdown passes, Nate Stanley has 52 for his career and is within striking distance of Chuck Long's once-thought-untouchable school mark of 74 TD passes. In fact, he could shatter it.
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Also, since Nate is just a 3 year starter, lets look at Chuck's last 3 years at iowa and Nate's projected stats for his last 3 years at Iowa.
The yards are nearly identical.
The TD/INT ratio? Wow. Nate by a landslide.
Comp....Att....Pct.....Yds....Yds/Att....TD...INT....Player
666....1,145..58%....8,136......7.1..........78.....26......Nate
591.......909..65%....8,281......9.1..........62.....36.....Chuck
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nathan-stanley-2.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chuck-long-1.html
Is the guy with the GOATee the GOAT?
Just for fun, and to appreciate Nate Stanley:
Nate is just a 3 year starter, lets look at Chuck's last 3 years at iowa and Nate's projected stats for his last 3 years at Iowa.
The yards are nearly identical.
The TD/INT ratio? Wow. Nate by a landslide.
Comp..Att..Pct.....Yds...Yds/Att....TD...INT...Player
666..1,145..58%....8,136......7.1......78.....26...Nate
591.....909..65%....8,281......9.1......62.....36...Chuck
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nathan-stanley-2.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chuck-long-1.html
Nate is just a 3 year starter, lets look at Chuck's last 3 years at iowa and Nate's projected stats for his last 3 years at Iowa.
The yards are nearly identical.
The TD/INT ratio? Wow. Nate by a landslide.
Comp..Att..Pct.....Yds...Yds/Att....TD...INT...Player
666..1,145..58%....8,136......7.1......78.....26...Nate
591.....909..65%....8,281......9.1......62.....36...Chuck
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nathan-stanley-2.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chuck-long-1.html
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I think Stanzi was the most clutch QB I have seen at Iowa. He had kind of a Rocky persona. Throws a pick six, tells Micky: "I'm not going down anymore"
Imagine if Nate, all season long, continues to hit receivers in stride like this.
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I see it like this. Chuck Long is Iowa’s GOAT QB. And always will be. But, Nate is a guy who people will look back on in 20 years and say, wow, he was pretty damn good, wasn’t he. I think right now he’s a bit underrated, all things considered. Numbers don’t lie. And for his career to this point, he’s been impressive in that aspect.
Chuck's name is on the stadium for a reason.
I do think, however, that we take him for granted and then get all bent out of shape when he is "only" completing 70% of his passes.
The guy has a cannon for an arm; if he can perfect the long ball, look out....
Ricky threw the prettiest ball, that’s for sure. He had perfect mechanics. Tight spirals pretty much ever throw. And I agree about him being unflappable.
Can't disagree with any of the stats. Stanley is one of the hawkeye greats. I think it's the head scratchers in some big late games that have tarnished a little bit of his legacy.
Like another poster said... The moxy and clutch plays in big games is why Stanzi, CJ and Tate, etc. go down as legends in the Kirk era. Let's hope Nate continues his dominance this season and gets added to that list. It will be fun to watch!
Like another poster said... The moxy and clutch plays in big games is why Stanzi, CJ and Tate, etc. go down as legends in the Kirk era. Let's hope Nate continues his dominance this season and gets added to that list. It will be fun to watch!
The traditional wisdom is that the field becomes compacted and it's thus a little easier to cover on a short field. Given the frequency of teams getting stuffed in the red-zone these days ... having success passing the ball in the red-zone seems like a strong skill-set.
It's kind of weird right? We hold QBs like Stanzi and CJB in higher regard than Stanley despite Stanley crushing their records. Maybe it's because both led us to special seasons whereas Stanley has just led us to "good" seasons? I wonder what the perception of Stanley will be if he leads us to an 11+ win season this year.
If he does...he will throw 35 touchdown passes. Book it.
I said a similar thing in the basketball forum about Jeff Horner. He's a great one when you look at statistics, but we had no NCAA success with him on the team. He won't be looked back upon like Ronnie, BJ, and Andre as PGs that were leaders on teams that won games in the tournament.
Stanley right now is similar. Great stats, but doesn't have that defining season or postseason success. In the last 40 years Long, Hartlieb, Rodgers, Banks, Tate, Stanzi, and Beathard are all thought of very highly because they played great in 10+ win seasons and in some cases Big Ten championships. Chandler has a 10 win season but that was more because of the defense than his capabilities and isn't put up there on a pedestal with the others.
If Stanley wins 10+ games this season and leads us to a big time bowl game or at least Big Ten West crown, he will be thought of with that group of players. A third bowl win would be nice, but his best win needs to be something bigger than a nice but not legendary Outback Bowl win against Miss State to really push his legend to the top tier.
I also think those guys had bigger personalities than Stanley. But yeah if he wins 10+ games this year he will be elevated in a lot of people's eyes.
Great season outcomes do not guarantee starting QB being remembered as great.
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Craig Krenzel
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Stanley has been inconsistent. He has all the tools. He has an NFL career ahead of him if he puts it all together. Mostly though, I suspect that won't happen. And I'm not sure why.
its interesting that when it comes to Stanzi, fans quickly think of 2009 and completely dismiss 2010
Some stats, just for fun.
Tate 8,237 yards, 61/34 TD's/INT's, 137.3 career QB rating, 23 W's
Stanzi 7,377 yards, 56/31 TD's/INT's, 141.3 career QB rating, 28 W's
Stanley (if 2019 matches 2018) 8,198 yds, 78/26 TD's/INT's, 136.0 career QB rating, 26 W's
I think this tells me that the only reason Stanley is not in the clubhouse with Stanzi and Tate is because he hasn't had a special season (Tate, 10 W's 2004 - Stanzi 11 W's 2009). It may also be because Stanely hasn't had as many magical plays.
Stanley absolutely deserves to be in the conversation best QB in KF era.
Tate 8,237 yards, 61/34 TD's/INT's, 137.3 career QB rating, 23 W's
Stanzi 7,377 yards, 56/31 TD's/INT's, 141.3 career QB rating, 28 W's
Stanley (if 2019 matches 2018) 8,198 yds, 78/26 TD's/INT's, 136.0 career QB rating, 26 W's
I think this tells me that the only reason Stanley is not in the clubhouse with Stanzi and Tate is because he hasn't had a special season (Tate, 10 W's 2004 - Stanzi 11 W's 2009). It may also be because Stanely hasn't had as many magical plays.
Stanley absolutely deserves to be in the conversation best QB in KF era.
its gonna be interesting to see how this all plays out.
I think Stanley finally has receivers to throw to.
Can he not make the big mistake in the big road games this year?
If Iowa can get over the injury bug....
We are only in week 3 and a lot of the West teams look shaky. I think after the games are over on Sep 21 we are going to know a lot. Iowa is on a bye. Michigan travels to Wisky that day. Can Harbaugh finally win a big game on the road? How good, really, are Michigan and Wisky, both future road opponents?
Buckle up!
I think that Stanley will have the best NFL career of the bunch. He has the measurables and intelligence to be something special before it's all over.
This. I see this guy being a great starting QB in the NFL and that we didn't utilize his skills enough.
He has the most potential. Plain and simple.This. I see this guy being a great starting QB in the NFL and that we didn't utilize his skills enough.
Basically, we haven't had the special season because stanley didn't make the plays.
Still one season left though! :fingerscrossed:
Special season=winning the close ones.
