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NCAA approves proposals to alter targeting rules

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In an effort to improve the standards of player safety, the NCAA Football Rules Committee approved several proposals in Orlando, Florida, this week highlighted by major changes to targeting penalties and how they are properly ruled.

The instant replay official, in addition to on-field officials, would now have the power to “stop the game and create a targeting foul in situations where an egregious action has occurred.”

If the proposals are approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel on March 8, rule changes will take effect at the start of the 2016 season.

Since a targeting infraction is considered the stiffest penalty (automatic ejection for the guilty party) in football, more needed to be done to ensure the accuracy of such calls, according to Bob Nielson, chair of the rules committee.

“Because this is such a severe penalty, we are instructing replay officials to review plays to ensure that the required elements of targeting exist,” Nielson said, according to an NCAA press release on this week’s meetings. “We are also adding the ability for the replay official to stop the game when a potential targeting foul is not detected on the field.”

In addition, the rules committee also approved a proposal to allow for electronic devices — iPads, mobile-electronics — to be used in the lockerroom or press box in-game. They remain prohibited from the sideline.

Sports Illustrated's Stewart Mandel also reported that leagues will be allowed to have their own instant replay headquarters more or less used in examining calls during games.


Directly from the NCAA's press release on this week's proposals, here are changes relating to player safety:

• First, the rules dealing with low blocks were adjusted to prohibit a player who leaves the tackle box from blocking below the waist toward the initial position of the ball.
• Second, the rules pertaining to a defenseless player will include a ball carrier who has clearly given himself up by sliding feet first.
• Finally, the deliberate tripping of the ball carrier (with the leg) was approved as a foul.

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Sissies are ruining the game. Targeting penalties have bee a horrible favor and are applied completely unfairly and arbitrarily.

Like all other penalties and the American way, there should be no penalty if there is any doubt, but that's not how it's being applied.
 
"Targeting" is the first step in acknowledging the existence of concussions in football. I will know the game is getting serious about head injuries when I see they have banned the face mask. Removing the face mask from the player's helmet will more quickly end "head shots" and "spearing" penalties than any other rule football can come up with.
As long as the tackler understands he can break his nose or loose a tooth with a devastating blow on another player, that is when illegal hits will start to come to an end and proper (and safer) tackling techniques will return to football. .
 
"Targeting" is the first step in acknowledging the existence of concussions in football. I will know the game is getting serious about head injuries when I see they have banned the face mask. Removing the face mask from the player's helmet will more quickly end "head shots" and "spearing" penalties than any other rule football can come up with.
As long as the tackler understands he can break his nose or loose a tooth with a devastating blow on another player, that is when illegal hits will start to come to an end and proper (and safer) tackling techniques will return to football. .
I take it you never played. Injuries come from hitting with the crown of the helmet, not the facemask. Removing the facemask would probably make it worse.
 
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I take it you never played. Injuries come from hitting with the crown of the helmet, not the facemask. Removing the facemask would probably make it worse.
You take the face mask off the helmet son.........you change the whole concept of tackling/spearing......just break your nose once or twice......break off a tooth or two....you start tacking as you should....with your shoulders and legs. The face mask is the prime motivator for the hitter to hit nasty.
 
You take the face mask off the helmet son.........you change the whole concept of tackling/spearing......just break your nose once or twice......break off a tooth or two....you start tacking as you should....with your shoulders and legs. The face mask is the prime motivator for the hitter to hit nasty.
Ok, you've certainly never been in a football practice.n have you ever actually watched a game? Spearing is with the top of the helmet, not the facemask. Tackling with your head up is the safest way to do it.

The last thing in the world you should do is remove the facemask and leave the rest of the helmet. That would encourage people to drop their heads and lead with the crown of the helmet, which would not only lead to more concussions, but spinal injuries as well.

Now, if you got rid of the helmet completely, you might be on to something, but that simply won't happen because its counterintuitive to most. Our best bet is to improve helmet technology, which people are doing.
 
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Ok, you've certainly never been in a football practice.n have you ever actually watched a game? Spearing is with the top of the helmet, not the facemask. Tackling with your head up is the safest way to do it.

The last thing in the world you should do is remove the facemask and leave the rest of the helmet. That would encourage people to drop their heads and lead with the crown of the helmet, which would not only lead to more concussions, but spinal injuries as well.

Now, if you got rid of the helmet completely, you might be on to something, but that simply won't happen because its counterintuitive to most. Our best bet is to improve helmet technology, which people are doing.
Believe me kiting...and I doubt you will....remove the face mask and see what happens.
Actually, I think that any player who gets ejected from a game for a "targeting call" ought to lose his face mask the following two games. I'm telling you.....the head hunters will quit tackling with their helmets.
 
Believe me kiting...and I doubt you will....remove the face mask and see what happens.
Actually, I think that any player who gets ejected from a game for a "targeting call" ought to lose his face mask the following two games. I'm telling you.....the head hunters will quit tackling with their helmets.
No, I think I'll rank the opinions of coaches, trainers, sports medicine professionals and decades of evidence backed by science, as well as my own experience playing in both high school and college, above your unsubstantiated idea.

I do agree that removing the entire helmet or going back to the leather one would reduce concussions. But removing the facemask will simply encourage players to drop their head when tackling, which anyone who has actually played a sport knows is the worst thing you can do.
 
No, I think I'll rank the opinions of coaches, trainers, sports medicine professionals and decades of evidence backed by science, as well as my own experience playing in both high school and college, above your unsubstantiated idea.

I do agree that removing the entire helmet or going back to the leather one would reduce concussions. But removing the facemask will simply encourage players to drop their head when tackling, which anyone who has actually played a sport knows is the worst thing you can do.
You and I will agree to disagree on this point, too.
 
We will disagree.

I must ask though how many football practices or games have you been involved in? What are your qualifications for making your claim?
I have a family member who does "quality control" for a major producer of football helmets in the world and its just one of the ideas she has heard discussed at various helmet equipment meetings she has attended. She just returned from one last week in Phoenix.
kiting....you don't have to believe me, and I really don't care...Right now it is her conclusion that under current rules and regulations, there cannot be a "safe" (concussion proof) football helmet made. There is a reason why the biggest helmet maker in America is trying to get out of the business but cannot find a buyer.
Now my daughter has never played football...but she does have access to numbers and statistics that are concerning. It is her work.
 
I have a family member who does "quality control" for a major producer of football helmets in the world and its just one of the ideas she has heard discussed at various helmet equipment meetings she has attended. She just returned from one last week in Phoenix.
kiting....you don't have to believe me, and I really don't care...Right now it is her conclusion that under current rules and regulations, there cannot be a "safe" (concussion proof) football helmet made. There is a reason why the biggest helmet maker in America is trying to get out of the business but cannot find a buyer.
Now my daughter has never played football...but she does have access to numbers and statistics that are concerning. It is her work.
Thanks for answering. I get the idea, and as I said, I agree as long as you get rid of the entire helmet. I've given the reason why removing only the facemask wouldn't work. I think if you, or her spent a few hours seeing how kids are taught to tackle and why and actually did it a few times you would agree with me.
 
I agree the most devastating hits are not made with the face mask, but the crown of the helmet.

So on one hand I can see how there would be more hits with the crown.

But on the other hand, I'm sure that eventually most guys doing this would get their faces smashed as an opponent unexpectedly moves.

So I think you're both right.

But I also think that even if guys mostly tackle correctly that you can't have current hard helmets with no face protection, too dangerous. You would need a soft or no helmet.
 
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