NCAA Championship Thread : Session III

[js8793]

If you go back to when he was first recruited.

He was a guy everyone was saying should win a couple titles.

Same was said for Warner if I believe.

How many kids have truly made great strides since coming here?

I don't remember this at all and anybody saying this was delusional *at the time.* Assad was a mid-tier recruit. He's performed like a mid-tier recruit at a weight that is always full of monsters.

Similar with Nelson, who has wayyy outperformed his ranking. He's having a nice tournament. Some of the decisions he made in the third underneath were frustrating, but he wrestled tough.

 

[MSU158]

If you go back to when he was first recruited.

He was a guy everyone was saying should win a couple titles.

Same was said for Warner if I believe.

How many kids have truly made great strides since coming here?

Anyone legitimately thinking Assad SHOULD win multiple titles needed their heads examined. He was the 29th recruit in his class. Come on, man.

Warner made the Finals and is already a 3x AA. He took 4th the year before losing to Myles Amine. Warner has had a VERY good career worthy of a Top 10 recruit.

Spencer Lee is going to win 4 titles in 4 tries. If Iowa can keep recruiting these types like PSU does basically every year, then, yeah, they will have a bunch of NCAA Champs too. It isn't rocket science...

 

[js8793]

come on PK. hopefully braunagel took a lot of the starch out of ramirez

 

[just_somebody]

Odds of PSU losing out?

83%

 

[js8793]

Give us your situational coaching advice please…. This is too good to pass up.

work your way to your feet instead of trying a desperation roll right away trying to get a reversal that would be totally meaningless anyway because you can't ride him even if you get it. and then when it doesn't work, don't hang onto the foot on your belly for 40 seconds. let go, and work back up - like he did 40 seconds later.

ask tom, he's gonna tell you the exact same thing genius. you know how I know this? you could hear morningstar screaming at him to let go of it the entire time and then when they went out Tom yelled at him to stay on his feet.

or was it "politics" that screwed nelson too? lmao

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Iowa’s all American odds probably just changed back to five!

Can we change it back to 10?.......

 

[just_somebody]

damn.. PK was close late, just couldn't quite finish

 

[Hawkeye4lifee]

Kennedy looks like he let this tournament get to him. Was in his head every match

 

[Steamboat529529]

Good effort from kennedy. That’s a tough seed that early in the backside. Back to 4.5 all Americans from iowa.

 

[js8793]

guy wrestles a 30 pt war an hour ago and you just let him hang out for most of the match and counter late? where's the pace? sure you give a couple up early maybe but then he's toast late. smh

 

[bdcolt45er]

Kennedy looks like he let this tournament get to him. Was in his head every match

Disagree. I thought he wrestled well. This weight is brutal

 

[HawkMachine]

Abe was never pegged to win any titles.

BS.

He was the top ranked 182 lber in the country. Won a WORLD medal.

#13 p4p in the country.

Some of you have TERRIBLE memories.

 

[MVPFAN]

damn.. PK was close late, just couldn't quite finish

Unfortunately we see this a lot from a few guys.

 

[WitnessGreatness]

What happened to Paddy Gallagher? Surprised he’s not having more success

 

[edquinn06]

Difference between Iowa and PSU. They have TF that AA their first time at the tournament and we have a guy who was a top 10 recruit who has had three years in the room and can’t AA.

 

[Gobblin]

work your way to your feet instead of trying a desperation roll right away trying to get a reversal that would be totally meaningless anyway because you can't ride him even if you get it. and then when it doesn't work, don't hang onto the foot on your belly for 40 seconds. let go, and work back up - like he did 40 seconds later.

ask tom, he's gonna tell you the exact same thing genius. or was it "politics" that screwed nelson too? lmao

Captain hindsight strikes again…. The irony in your posts is comical. You’re mother definitely let you suck too long.

And if Tom knows best like you always do, why are you always bitching like a petulant child about the product on the mat?

I’m so sorry a 23 year olds mat strategy vs a NCAA champion makes your life miserable.

 

[MVPFAN]

BS.

He was the top ranked 182 lber in the country. Won a WORLD medal.

#13 p4p in the country.

Some of you have TERRIBLE memories.

He dropped later that year. He got beat during the highschool season for starters by another Illinois kid

 

[Hawkeye in DFW]

What happened to Paddy Gallagher? Surprised he’s not having more success

Poor coaching by TnT.

 

[In the blood]

guy wrestles a 30 pt war an hour ago and you just let him hang out for most of the match and counter late? where's the pace? sure you give a couple up early maybe but then he's toast late. smh

Sounds like we’re going to have some coaching openings after the season. You NEED to apply.

 

[A Fist Full of Hawkeyes]

guy wrestles a 30 pt war an hour ago and you just let him hang out for most of the match and counter late? where's the pace? sure you give a couple up early maybe but then he's toast late. smh

Where's the pace especially when Ramirez was dinged with a stall warning in the 1st period.
He starts that flurry with a minute left he couldve definitely gotten a stall to tie that up.

But alas, we wait until :15 to make the push.

 

[blcoach80]

That loss to Amine stings as it set PK up for a brutal backside path. AA as a freshman at 165 this year is a pretty tall task for anyone.

 

[GlenHawk]

Difference between Iowa and PSU. They have TF that AA their first time at the tournament and we have a guy who was a top 10 recruit who has had three years in the room and can’t AA.

Bad comparison. 165 is by far the toughest weight this year. PK will be okay.

 

[MSU158]

BS.

He was the top ranked 182 lber in the country. Won a WORLD medal.

#13 p4p in the country.

Some of you have TERRIBLE memories.

He was TWENTY NINTH. He had 1 good tournament that brought his stock up and then domestic losses to drop it back down quickly there after. He is a good, solid wrestler with some AA potential. But, NO ONE was anointing him as a perennial title contender...

Seniors

The Top 100 wrestlers in the Class of 2019

www.flowrestling.org

 

[MSU158]

Bad comparison. 165 is by far the toughest weight this year. PK will be okay.

Yeah, Facundo went 0-2 and bbq at this weight. Lol...

 

[Hawkeye in DFW]

Bad comparison. 165 is by far the toughest weight this year. PK will be okay.

Amine was just a horrible draw for him R16.

 

[Sett1997]

better than an illegal back fist

The actual rule is "illegal fist to the back"
According to the Philosophy Major the BTN network chose to do color commentary.

 

[blcoach80]

Difference between Iowa and PSU. They have TF that AA their first time at the tournament and we have a guy who was a top 10 recruit who has had three years in the room and can’t AA.

I disagree. Haines doesn't AA at 165 this year and PK would AA at 157. The weights aren't even close for comparing strength.

 

[Czech Hawk]

That four AAs estimate looking bout right.

1/2 between Max and PK.

Brands has a route. I think we get 5. :/

 

[bdcolt45er]

The actual rule is "illegal fist to the back"
According to the Philosophy Major the BTN network chose to do color commentary.

I always front fist fools to avoid this issue.

 

[HawkMachine]

He was TWENTY NINTH. He had 1 good tournament that brought his stock up and then domestic losses to drop it back down quickly there after. He is a good, solid wrestler with some AA potential. But, NO ONE was anointing him as a perennial title contender...

Seniors

The Top 100 wrestlers in the Class of 2019

www.flowrestling.org

From an article posted AFTER yours:



Abe Assad, a senior at Glenbard North in Illinois, announced his commitment to the Hawkeyes on Monday evening. He is considered the top-ranked 182-pounder in the country, according to Flowrestling, and projects as a 184-pounder.

In Assad, the Hawkeyes are getting a world-class competitor on the rise. He is considered the No. 13 pound-for-pound prospect in the 2019 class. He went 51-0 and won his first state title in February, then caught fire at the Cadet World Team Trials in Akron in June, winning both the freestyle and Greco-Roman world team spots at 80 kilograms (roughly 176 pounds).

 

[js8793]

Captain hindsight strikes again…. The irony in your posts is comical. You’re mother definitely let you suck too long.

And if Tom knows best like you always do, why are you always bitching like a petulant child about the product on the mat?

I’m so sorry a 23 year olds mat strategy vs a NCAA champion makes your life miserable.

it's not captain hindsight lol. i groaned as soon as he did it. and tom and morningstar were screaming at him to let go.

you really want to die on this hill? i knew you were stupid, but this is even beneath you.

 

[MVPFAN]

When you have 1 score wins type matches the more explosive athletes often come out on top. Ramirez too explosive that last sequence.

 

[Chalkdaddy94]

Not to make excuses but we do know that both Assad and Warner are not 100%. Don’t know that Assad would have AA’d anyway (probably wouldn’t have), but he got even worse at finishing with that injured elbow from what I could tell.

Many won’t like this but I would guess that Assad is the guy at 184 again next year…

 

[js8793]

From an article posted AFTER yours:



Abe Assad, a senior at Glenbard North in Illinois, announced his commitment to the Hawkeyes on Monday evening. He is considered the top-ranked 182-pounder in the country, according to Flowrestling, and projects as a 184-pounder.

In Assad, the Hawkeyes are getting a world-class competitor on the rise. He is considered the No. 13 pound-for-pound prospect in the 2019 class. He went 51-0 and won his first state title in February, then caught fire at the Cadet World Team Trials in Akron in June, winning both the freestyle and Greco-Roman world team spots at 80 kilograms (roughly 176 pounds).

You look like an idiot right now. He went on a heater at cadet trials and then took several losses after that and *finished* as a mid-tier recruit. The date at the top of what you're looking at is wrong. The actual date of those final rankings was April 2019.

 

[MVPFAN]

From an article posted AFTER yours:



Abe Assad, a senior at Glenbard North in Illinois, announced his commitment to the Hawkeyes on Monday evening. He is considered the top-ranked 182-pounder in the country, according to Flowrestling, and projects as a 184-pounder.

In Assad, the Hawkeyes are getting a world-class competitor on the rise. He is considered the No. 13 pound-for-pound prospect in the 2019 class. He went 51-0 and won his first state title in February, then caught fire at the Cadet World Team Trials in Akron in June, winning both the freestyle and Greco-Roman world team spots at 80 kilograms (roughly 176 pounds).

That wasn't the end of the year.

 

[edquinn06]

Bad comparison. 165 is by far the toughest weight this year. PK will be okay.

Doesn’t get much easier next year.

 

[sstark46]

From an article posted AFTER yours:



Abe Assad, a senior at Glenbard North in Illinois, announced his commitment to the Hawkeyes on Monday evening. He is considered the top-ranked 182-pounder in the country, according to Flowrestling, and projects as a 184-pounder.

In Assad, the Hawkeyes are getting a world-class competitor on the rise. He is considered the No. 13 pound-for-pound prospect in the 2019 class. He went 51-0 and won his first state title in February, then caught fire at the Cadet World Team Trials in Akron in June, winning both the freestyle and Greco-Roman world team spots at 80 kilograms (roughly 176 pounds).

Just....sit this one out man.

 

[Bones Malone]

To be honest, I mostly come over here to get a different perspective and see how different fan based view and experience the same events. I’m out sports.

I always seem to forget the high likelihood of any of my sarcasm/silliness being met instantly with “hurrrrr durrrrr Sandusky, steroids, biased refs” which probably is the impetus for reflexively classless posts like my “Iowa style” jab.

You're a disingenuous pu$$y and clearly a troll but I'll reply anyway...

If you think being silly & sarcastic as a guest on an Iowa board today won’t be met with friction you have zero self awareness. You want to pretend you come here for perspective? Give us a break. We know that’s not the case.

All will agree, the PSU program is doing well & in a good place. But the weird fetish of PSU fans needing to come here for added gratification is frankly, quite sad. Nit fans want to give the impression they are “classy” but it’s clearly just the opposite. PSU fans are the epitome of a douchebag fanbase. The description is used so much here, simple because it's true. PSU fans get a little boner and feel the need to come here and show it off for their own gratification.

Iowa fans are at least “real” and can embrace the sometimes ugly side of fanaticism. PSU fans seemingly have this weird need to remind everyone of their programs dynasty and how great it is to be number one. Sadly, it's just not a good look. Please show yourself out the door and oh, GFY.

 

[edquinn06]

Right now 165 is whole. Iowa should be going after Mitchell Mesinbrck

 

[js8793]

warner looks really good right now.