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NCAA considers proposal aimed at curbing flow of graduate transfers

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Football and basketball coaches may be less likely to add graduate transfers to their teams under a change being considered by the NCAA.

The NCAA Division I Council is expected to vote by Friday on an amendment that would require a grad transfer to count against a team's scholarship total for two years, no matter how much eligibility the player has left when they arrive. An exception would be made for athletes who complete graduate degree requirements before the start of the second year.

The proposal targets what critics say is virtual free agency in big-time college athletics. Current rules allow athletes who have earned an undergraduate degree to transfer to another school without sitting out a season, as is usually required by the NCAA of undergraduates.

Local schools have accepted graduate transfers in recent years. Tre Neal started all 12 games for the Husker football team last season after transferring from Central Florida. Connor Cashaw, a Rice transfer, played in 33 games this past season for the Creighton men's basketball team. Both were immediately eligible at their new school. Fred Hoiberg and the Nebraska men's basketball program are currently pursuing several transfer players, including some graduate transfers.

Grad transfers can be a quick fix for coaches trying to plug holes on a roster and the freedom has been a boon to athletes looking for more playing time. But some administrators say the rule has drifted away from its original intent and graduate transfers are rarely completing those advanced degrees.

"The so-called graduate degree is really not the aspiration," Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said. "The aspiration is to be featured, and usually featured at a higher level."

Changing the rule could slow the flow of grad transfers by making coaches more reluctant to take on players with only one year of eligibility remaining.

"Roster management is such a critical component of every collegiate coach and then to say that you're going to burn a scholarship for another year afterward, where an individual is not even playing, that's obviously a pretty high price," said Todd Berry, the executive director of the American Football Coaches Association.

High-profile quarterbacks, such as former Alabama star Jalen Hurts who is now at Oklahoma, often garner headlines when they transfer as grad students. Still, the majority of football players taking this route are far less accomplished.

Stanford coach David Shaw, whose program routinely operates below the major-college maximum of 85 scholarship players, said he would not hesitate to bring in a star-level player as a grad transfer even if it meant having a vacant scholarship the next season. But teams could be less inclined to take that hit with a lesser player.

"I have a tough time justifying putting constraints on someone who would accept a grad transfer because we're talking about some of the best class of young people," Shaw said. "These guys have graduated. They have done what they needed to do."


In men's basketball, where the scholarship limit is 13 per team, graduate transfers have become even more prevalent.

Bringing in graduate transfers can help a coach quickly rebuild. Texas Tech reached the NCAA tournament championship game with graduate transfers Matt Mooney and Tariq Owens playing key roles. Often mid-major conference basketball coaches watch their best players jump to more prominent conferences through grad transfers.

"(The proposed rule change) may help programs like us in the Big Sky or the Big West, the WAC, where we're investing four years in these young men and sometimes you're losing out on the best year they can give you, in terms of the fifth year after the redshirt year," Northern Arizona coach Jack Murphy said. "A lot of people say something has to change. I don't know if something has to change, but it would definitely make programs think long and hard if they're going commit two years of resources for only one year."

The proposed amendment comes during a time of sweeping reform of NCAA transfer rules.

Athletes are no longer required to seek permission from their current school to be contacted by other schools when they decide to transfer. They can simply notify their schools of intent to transfer and have their names placed in an NCAA database. Once listed in the so-called transfer portal an athlete can be recruited by any school.

The NCAA also tweaked its waiver policy to give more undergraduates a chance to become immediately eligible to compete after transferring. Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields and Miami quarterback Tate Martell are among those who have received a waiver to play in 2019 after transferring following the 2018 season.

The latest proposal was crafted by the Division I Council's transfer working group, which also came up with the notification model. All 32 Division I conferences are represented on the council.

Bowlsby, who is not on the council, said a majority of the 10 athletic directors in the Big 12 were against the proposal. Mid-American Conference Commissioner Jon Steinbrecher, who represents the MAC on the council and was part of the working group, said his league is for it.

Steinbrecher also said the proposal had strong support coming out of the working group, which had representation from throughout Division I.

"If you don't like the idea of free-flowing grad transfers, which is essentially what we have right now," Steinbrecher said, "I'm not sure why you would be opposed to what's being proposed."

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Dumb. The athlete actually graduated. Reward them.

Maybe when a coach switched schools the new team should get a few scholarships cut until their previous contract would have expired. That might keep coaches from jumping schools.
 
The grad transfers aren't the problem. The NCAA granting waivers for what seems like every kid that hasn't graduated is the problem. NCAA needs to develop a backbone with well defined situations on when you will allow it vs when they will have to sit a year. Then be consistent on enforcement. Or just allow for free agency with no grad requirements.

The grad transfers are hardly the problem creating the free agency similarities.
 
I agree. NCAA should reward student athletes that graduate.
NO, they are leaving for greener pastures and have no intent on being graduate students. With so many students coming in for the Spring Semester to take part in Spring Practice (it is then easy to take a class or two), and staying for summer for the strength programs, this could become an epidemic.
 
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NO, they are leaving for greener pastures and have no intent on being graduate students. With so many students coming in for the Spring Semester to take part in Spring Practice (it is then easy to take a class or two), and staying for summer for the strength programs, this could become an epidemic.

Who cares, they met requirements for graduation at their initial school. That should be rewarded, not punished through limitations.

The NCAA is supposed to be there for the protection and betterment of the student-athlete, not the coaches, not the fans, not the schools and not the conferences. It seems people want the betterment of everyone but the student athlete.
 
Who cares, they met requirements for graduation at their initial school. That should be rewarded, not punished through limitations.

The NCAA is supposed to be there for the protection and betterment of the student-athlete, not the coaches, not the fans, not the schools and not the conferences. It seems people want the betterment of everyone but the student athlete.

Yes, let the kids go to any school that wants them.
 
The grad transfers aren't the problem. The NCAA granting waivers for what seems like every kid that hasn't graduated is the problem. NCAA needs to develop a backbone with well defined situations on when you will allow it vs when they will have to sit a year. Then be consistent on enforcement. Or just allow for free agency with no grad requirements.

The grad transfers are hardly the problem creating the free agency similarities.
What Im reading between the lines is that the NCAA realized they screwed up with these new rules and is getting pressure from the smaller conferences to change them. In also see this as a way for them to weasel in and deny Jordan Travis's waiver request, since his came after the backlash of Field's and Martell's approved waivers.
 
How do we know this doesn't help students? It seems to me that they are saying if you want to be a graduate transfer you actually have to want to be a graduate student. Do they require the school actually give them 2 years worth of scholarship money so they can complete that degree? I fail to see how telling a kid who has no intention of getting a graduate degree that he can't freelance himself under the guise of being a graduate student is harmful.
 
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NO, they are leaving for greener pastures and have no intent on being graduate students. With so many students coming in for the Spring Semester to take part in Spring Practice (it is then easy to take a class or two), and staying for summer for the strength programs, this could become an epidemic.
They already have their undergrad. That is why they should get to move on.

I applaud them for actually earning a degree. They don’t owe the school a damn thing.
 
I have a hard time all these student athletes are completing their degrees in 3 years. In hoops especially, you don't see as many redshirts, so that's what it would take. Even in 4 years can be tough because of all the time constraints they face due to their athletic requirements.

If they've graduated, I'm okay with them transferring, though it admittedly does suck for school that invested so much time/effort in them.

It's never seemed fair to me that a coach can leave for a new job right away, but a player used to have to sit out a year, so I was okay with the grad transfer rule. I do think it has gotten out of control tho. For example, in men's hoops, 2 players on average will transfer from every team each year. On a 13 man scholarship, that's potentially a 60% roster turnover on transfers alone, to say nothing of actual graduations and players going to the draft. No idea what the numbers are for football or girl's hoops.
 
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I have a hard time all these student athletes are completing their degrees in 3 years. In hoops especially, you don't see as many redshirts, so that's what it would take. Even in 4 years can be tough because of all the time constraints they face due to their athletic requirements.

If they've graduated, I'm okay with them transferring, though it admittedly does suck for school that invested so much time/effort in them.

It's never seemed fair to me that a coach can leave for a new job right away, but a player used to have to sit out a year, so I was okay with the grad transfer rule. I do think it has gotten out of control tho. For example, in men's hoops, 2 players on average will transfer from every team each year. On a 13 man scholarship, that's potentially a 60% roster turnover on transfers alone, to say nothing of actual graduations and players going to the draft. No idea what the numbers are for football or girl's hoops.
Online classes, summer classes, high school earned college credits, and an easy major make it very doable.
 
They already have their undergrad. That is why they should get to move on.

I applaud them for actually earning a degree. They don’t owe the school a damn thing.
Well, I see the point of the smaller schools, they've paid for three (sometimes four with one year redshirting and not playing) then when the kid is going to be a senior he decides he too good for his school. They feel like farm teams for the Power 5 schools (and I hate that term). Now this is not the situation on all grad transfers but it is enough times.
 
Online classes, summer classes, high school earned college credits, and an easy major make it very doable.

Heck, my son played 4 sports in HS plus AAU ball, he started college (essentially) as a SO. If he would have taken summer classes (as all bball players do) he would have easily graduated in 3 years even having changed his major.
 
Part of the problem are the colleges that will actively
recruit grad transfers in an unethical manner. The
student-athlete is subject to more under the table
schemes than you would believe. Making the grad
transfer sit out one year might level the playing field.
 
Brian Bosworth was right NCAA: Not Caring About Athletes.

Grad transfers can work both ways. A little used 5th year at a power 5 conference transfering to a mid-level school

If the athlete had graduated, let them be a free agent. They achieved the most significant goal of any college student.

The NCAA looks out for the coaches and not the students.
 
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I can say that some academic professionals do not like the grad transfer rule because the incoming transfers don’t take the course work seriously and usually never finish their degree. Grad classes are not like gen Ed’s, there is a limited number of people allowed in the courses and when a transfer comes in they put into the course ahead of everyone else.

I’m okay w/the NCAA putting on a performance criteria to it. I’d say give the student athlete 3 years to complete their grad degree. IF they do not then, then have it affect the schools APR and take away 1 scholly for 1 year.
 
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