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NCAA has charged Bill Self with THREE Level 1 (most serious) Violations, alleging he was in on Adidas' Scheme

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Just a reminder of the program that is favored to win this year's NCAA Tournament.

Feb 26 Story from USA Today:

NCAA faces potentially embarrassing scenario of under-investigation Kansas winning title
Dan Wolken
USA TODAY
February 26, 2020

Remember, the NCAA last September delivered a Notice of Allegations to Kansas that ranks among the most scathing documents ever produced by its enforcement division. The thrust of the NCAA’s case is that ex-Adidas marketing executive Jim Gatto and a bag man named T.J. Gassnola funneled cash to multiple prospects under the guise of recruiting them to Kansas.


And in a dramatic departure from the way it often handles high-profile coaches, the NCAA went directly after Self in the strongest possible terms and charged him with three Level 1 (most serious) violations, alleging that he was in on the scheme in some cases and actively encouraged Gassnola’s help in securing top players.


It’s impossible to read the NCAA’s litany of charges and come to any conclusion other than it wants to run Self, a national championship coach and surefire Hall of Famer, all the way out of the sport. And yet the response from Kansas can pretty much be summed up like this: “Oh yeah? Make me.”

While Kansas has not yet made public its official rebuttal to the NCAA, which is a key part of the process that precedes a date with the Committee on Infractions, it indicated in an initial statement that it disputes the NCAA’s fundamental theory that Adidas and Gassnola should be classified as Kansas boosters who broke NCAA rules. Kansas also rejected the assertion that Self did anything wrong and has done nothing to indicate it will do anything but stand by him. Over the last five months, Kansas has essentially made defiance a strategy.

And maybe, at least from a short-term results standpoint, it’s a good one. The Jayhawks have lost just three times this year: By two points to Duke, by one to Villanova and by 12 to No. 2-ranked Baylor, a loss it avenged last weekend in Waco. The Ken Pomeroy efficiency ratings say Kansas is the best in the country and the only one ranked among the best seven teams on both offense and defense. And in a year where most of the top draft picks won’t be playing in March, Kansas is loaded with upperclassmen who are also borderline NBA players, which has become the most effective formula for building a team to go deep in March.

At this moment, it’s simply obvious: No team is more likely to win a national title this year than Kansas.

Nobody knows what lies beyond that, and the ultimate resolution won’t come for months and months, perhaps even bleeding into the 2020-21 season. But if Self is hoisting the trophy on a confetti-splashed stage April 6 in Atlanta, it will be impossible to escape the image of a triumphant cheater getting the best of the NCAA’s feeble bureaucracy once again.


LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...sas-wins-college-basketball-title/4871808002/
 
Just a reminder of the program that is favored to win this year's NCAA Tournament.

Feb 26 Story from USA Today:

NCAA faces potentially embarrassing scenario of under-investigation Kansas winning title
Dan Wolken
USA TODAY
February 26, 2020

Remember, the NCAA last September delivered a Notice of Allegations to Kansas that ranks among the most scathing documents ever produced by its enforcement division. The thrust of the NCAA’s case is that ex-Adidas marketing executive Jim Gatto and a bag man named T.J. Gassnola funneled cash to multiple prospects under the guise of recruiting them to Kansas.


And in a dramatic departure from the way it often handles high-profile coaches, the NCAA went directly after Self in the strongest possible terms and charged him with three Level 1 (most serious) violations, alleging that he was in on the scheme in some cases and actively encouraged Gassnola’s help in securing top players.


It’s impossible to read the NCAA’s litany of charges and come to any conclusion other than it wants to run Self, a national championship coach and surefire Hall of Famer, all the way out of the sport. And yet the response from Kansas can pretty much be summed up like this: “Oh yeah? Make me.”

While Kansas has not yet made public its official rebuttal to the NCAA, which is a key part of the process that precedes a date with the Committee on Infractions, it indicated in an initial statement that it disputes the NCAA’s fundamental theory that Adidas and Gassnola should be classified as Kansas boosters who broke NCAA rules. Kansas also rejected the assertion that Self did anything wrong and has done nothing to indicate it will do anything but stand by him. Over the last five months, Kansas has essentially made defiance a strategy.

And maybe, at least from a short-term results standpoint, it’s a good one. The Jayhawks have lost just three times this year: By two points to Duke, by one to Villanova and by 12 to No. 2-ranked Baylor, a loss it avenged last weekend in Waco. The Ken Pomeroy efficiency ratings say Kansas is the best in the country and the only one ranked among the best seven teams on both offense and defense. And in a year where most of the top draft picks won’t be playing in March, Kansas is loaded with upperclassmen who are also borderline NBA players, which has become the most effective formula for building a team to go deep in March.

At this moment, it’s simply obvious: No team is more likely to win a national title this year than Kansas.

Nobody knows what lies beyond that, and the ultimate resolution won’t come for months and months, perhaps even bleeding into the 2020-21 season. But if Self is hoisting the trophy on a confetti-splashed stage April 6 in Atlanta, it will be impossible to escape the image of a triumphant cheater getting the best of the NCAA’s feeble bureaucracy once again.


LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...sas-wins-college-basketball-title/4871808002/
And nobody at KU will care unless the NCAA actually grows a set, and strips the title. Don't hold your breath. They've been through this before with Larry Brown, and he went merrily on his way. No doubt Self will be making millions in the league......
 
And nobody at KU will care unless the NCAA actually grows a set, and strips the title. Don't hold your breath. They've been through this before with Larry Brown, and he went merrily on his way. No doubt Self will be making millions in the league......
Yep, like Carolina and any other blue blood before them. Karma is helping with NC this year though, fun to see them suck balls with all that talent.
 
This is one of those cases where the talking heads will sit there and say how much a head coach has complete control of the ins and outs of his program and that's why he's successful.....until they get in trouble like this and suddenly we're to believe the coach had no clue this was happening and we're to forget about how they know all the ins-and-outs of their program.
 
Yep, like Carolina and any other blue blood before them. Karma is helping with NC this year though, fun to see them suck balls with all that talent.

And I don't think that's by mistake....this is the year where some of the blue bloods are trying to hang back, with all the FBI probes and such hanging in the balance. It's as if they're trying to tell the NCAA "it's Dayton and San Diego State you need to be investigating".
 
Until coaches and programs get "torched", the cheating will continue. Losing a couple of skolly's or one post-season isn't going to scare anyone.

Coaches like Self, if these things are true, should get -

1. Obviously terminated
2. Contract becomes null and void. No severance, no nothing.
3. Ten year ban on coaching at an NCAA school.

Let him go sell insurance for a decade. That will get the attention of other coaches.
 
Remember when your mom and dad told you, "Cheaters never prosper"? Well, it would be nice if that were true, but look around and you'll see cheaters prospering everywhere . . . And I mean everywhere. So until the cheaters get the punishment they deserve, more people will cheat, and those already cheating will become even more brazen.

Religion, youth organizations, college sports, pro sports (yes, we're talkin' MLB's Astros and Red Sox), even the US government . . . no consequences means even more of the same, only worse.

Mom and dad also told you, "Honesty is the best policy." Maybe, but that, too, is lookin' pretty iffy, and that's a shame.
 
Wouldn't be cool if the tournament committee just left Kansas off the board? They just took it upon themselves to set the brackets and leave Kansas out of the tournament....they don't announce anything ahead of time, and when the Bracket show gets rolling the announcers gradually come to the conclusion that Kansas isn't on the board?
 
Yep, like Carolina and any other blue blood before them. Karma is helping with NC this year though, fun to see them suck balls with all that talent.
I don’t think the UNC situation was handled well at all but they are struggling due to recruiting from the uncertainty of that investigation. Just goes to show how piss poor some of these coaches are without elite talent.
 
Kansas will not win it all. The first close game they are in will be decided by calls going against them, to save the NCAA the embarrassment. Corruption to fix corruption.
The only time I would be happy about corruption. **** Kansas
 
I don’t think the UNC situation was handled well at all but they are struggling due to recruiting from the uncertainty of that investigation. Just goes to show how piss poor some of these coaches are without elite talent.
Agree and Karma always wins.
 
This is one of those cases where the talking heads will sit there and say how much a head coach has complete control of the ins and outs of his program and that's why he's successful.....until they get in trouble like this and suddenly we're to believe the coach had no clue this was happening and we're to forget about how they know all the ins-and-outs of their program.
No doubt, like Slick Rick senior in Louisville. A basically unpaid grad assistant was throwing 20K hooker parties for recruits and the head man had NO IDEA this was happening. Right.......:rolleyes:
 
How he was not suspended from the sport before the season even started is beyond logic. KU should be banned from post season play. Then drop the hammer.

Same with the other schools involved. Arizona and the rest need to be taught a lesson. Only then will the corruption be under control.... Then continue to enforce it with a strong fist. Enforce it. Now. Keep the Fn cheaters out of the game!



Just a reminder of the program that is favored to win this year's NCAA Tournament.

Feb 26 Story from USA Today:

NCAA faces potentially embarrassing scenario of under-investigation Kansas winning title
Dan Wolken
USA TODAY
February 26, 2020

Remember, the NCAA last September delivered a Notice of Allegations to Kansas that ranks among the most scathing documents ever produced by its enforcement division. The thrust of the NCAA’s case is that ex-Adidas marketing executive Jim Gatto and a bag man named T.J. Gassnola funneled cash to multiple prospects under the guise of recruiting them to Kansas.


And in a dramatic departure from the way it often handles high-profile coaches, the NCAA went directly after Self in the strongest possible terms and charged him with three Level 1 (most serious) violations, alleging that he was in on the scheme in some cases and actively encouraged Gassnola’s help in securing top players.


It’s impossible to read the NCAA’s litany of charges and come to any conclusion other than it wants to run Self, a national championship coach and surefire Hall of Famer, all the way out of the sport. And yet the response from Kansas can pretty much be summed up like this: “Oh yeah? Make me.”

While Kansas has not yet made public its official rebuttal to the NCAA, which is a key part of the process that precedes a date with the Committee on Infractions, it indicated in an initial statement that it disputes the NCAA’s fundamental theory that Adidas and Gassnola should be classified as Kansas boosters who broke NCAA rules. Kansas also rejected the assertion that Self did anything wrong and has done nothing to indicate it will do anything but stand by him. Over the last five months, Kansas has essentially made defiance a strategy.

And maybe, at least from a short-term results standpoint, it’s a good one. The Jayhawks have lost just three times this year: By two points to Duke, by one to Villanova and by 12 to No. 2-ranked Baylor, a loss it avenged last weekend in Waco. The Ken Pomeroy efficiency ratings say Kansas is the best in the country and the only one ranked among the best seven teams on both offense and defense. And in a year where most of the top draft picks won’t be playing in March, Kansas is loaded with upperclassmen who are also borderline NBA players, which has become the most effective formula for building a team to go deep in March.

At this moment, it’s simply obvious: No team is more likely to win a national title this year than Kansas.

Nobody knows what lies beyond that, and the ultimate resolution won’t come for months and months, perhaps even bleeding into the 2020-21 season. But if Self is hoisting the trophy on a confetti-splashed stage April 6 in Atlanta, it will be impossible to escape the image of a triumphant cheater getting the best of the NCAA’s feeble bureaucracy once again.


LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...sas-wins-college-basketball-title/4871808002/
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watch missouri-KC get put on probation because we can't have a program like kansas getting hit now can we?
 
I don’t think the UNC situation was handled well at all but they are struggling due to recruiting from the uncertainty of that investigation. Just goes to show how piss poor some of these coaches are without elite talent.

UNC is definitely not struggling with recruiting.
 
How could you feel bad for Moss? He definitely isn't feeling bad for himself. He is starting on the #1 team in the country. Whatever happened in the past doesn't affect him.
 
How could you feel bad for Moss? He definitely isn't feeling bad for himself. He is starting on the #1 team in the country. Whatever happened in the past doesn't affect him.

It is not only the past, it is the present... Any titles will be vacated. Why the NCAA hasn't banded them from post-season play for this year and the next several, is ludicrous
 
Is Moss starting now? The Kansas games I've watched had him coming off the bench.

He has started about 4-5 games. By Default... Remember the idiots getting in a brawl and suspended???

There should have be FOUR KU players suspended. Not two... But they aren't starting now.
 
It is not only the past, it is the present... Any titles will be vacated. Why the NCAA hasn't banded them from post-season play for this year and the next several, is ludicrous

If they win the title this year it will not be vacated.
 
He has started about 4-5 games. By Default... Remember the idiots getting in a brawl and suspended???

There should have be FOUR KU players suspended. Not two... But they aren't starting now.

It isn't by default. Self had been wanting to move to 4 out lineup with only one big but didn't disrupt anything. The suspension of McCormack gave him what he needed to change the lineup and he has been back for awhile. DeSousa who was suspended the longest didn't play much and really isn't a factor. Watched Moss specifically recently and he has improved a ton on defense this year.
 
It isn't by default. Self had been wanting to move to 4 out lineup with only one big but didn't disrupt anything. The suspension of McCormack gave him what he needed to change the lineup and he has been back for awhile. DeSousa who was suspended the longest didn't play much and really isn't a factor. Watched Moss specifically recently and he has improved a ton on defense this year.
Lol, it seems like literally every single time I flip it to a Kan game, even just for a few minutes, I see Moss get burned or not box out his guy.

He’s terrible on defense.
 
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Lol, it seems like literally every single time I flip it to a Kan game, even just for a few minutes, I see Moss get burned or not box out his guy.

He’s terrible on defense.

He has improved dramatically this year. I mean if you compare him to Dotson or Garrett yeah he isn't going to look as good because they are elite defenders but if you look at his defense from when he was at Iowa or even earlier this year to now. it is night and day. His defensive rating is way up as are his defensive win shares and his box score plus/minus on the defensive end. Self would be playing him as much if he was terrible. They are the #1 defensive team in the Ken Pom era right now.
 
I've never understood the logic behind the theory that the NCAA won't punish the blue blood schools. It seems to be real, but why?

How does punishing KU "hurt" the NCAA? Will the NCAA lose revenue simply because KU can't play in the post-season? Or, if KU has a couple of down years because of other punishments?

Please don't say, "It hurts the image of the NCAA to have their premier programs punished." How could the image of the NCAA be any worse?

The joke about punishing Cleveland St is getting old and not funny. If college basketball wants to get "cleaned up", no better place to start than with Kansas.
 
I would think the IRS would be involved in finding out if this money that is being given to players was taxed. Throw a few parents in jail, a few of the bagholders in jail and I think that would clean alot of it up.
 
good list although there are several I would put ahead of Huggins. Miller from Arizona. Coach K. Of course Alford
Miller is a good one. Didn't he get caught on tape talking about paying players? How does he still have a job?
 
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