NCAA Strength of Record

[OnceAhawk]

Strength of Record, the top 6 teams, at the end of the day, Oct 30, 2015:

1. Alabama 7-1
2. Clemson 7-0
3. LSU 7-0
4. TCU 8-0
5. Mich State 8-0
6. IOWA 7-0

This was discussed during the first half of the Iowa/Maryland telecast. The Strength of Record takes into account everything you have already done.

So why is Iowa getting hammered regarding who they have played to date? And the teams that remain on their schedule? Well, that was determined by the B1G, of course, not Iowa.

Why isn't Baylor, Stanford, Notre Dame, and Ohio State getting hammered about their schedules, because Iowa's schedule is stronger, as shown above!?!?

 

[83Hawk]

It is irrelevant for Iowa. Can we just put this to bed once and for all?

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

Great, another thread about SOS...smh It's simple, Hawks win all 13 we'll be in the playoffs.

 

[td77]

Great, another thread about SOS...smh It's simple, Hawks win all 13 we'll be in the playoffs.

Many of you are still looking at this as "all or nothing" perspective. What if we lose a game? At this point, style does potentially matter in getting selected by the CFP for a Rose or Fiesta Bowl as opposed to the Citrus Bowl. I agree, let's put this issue to bed for now. But I find it annoying that everyone keeps saying just win like it at all matter HOW you won. That's simply not the case.

 

[OnceAhawk]

Many of you are still looking at this as "all or nothing" perspective. What if we lose a game? At this point, style does potentially matter in getting selected by the CFP for a Rose or Fiesta Bowl as opposed to the Citrus Bowl. I agree, let's put this issue to bed for now. But I find it annoying that everyone keeps saying just win like it at all matter HOW you won. That's simply not the case.

if we stumble in the next 4 games and win the B1G title, the NCAA strength of record matters to the selection committee

 

[td77]

if we stumble in the next 4 games and win the B1G title, the NCAA strength of record matters to the selection committee

I don't disagree, I was responding to the other posts.

 

[OnceAhawk]

I don't disagree, I was responding to the other posts.

i am not arguing w/ you; just discussing things w/ u

there are so many strength of schedules out there, too (Sagarin, ESPN, etc)

from the telecast, the #s from the NCAA are what matter; that's why I think that this post is not redundant at all; the #s in the orig post matter to the Selection committee

 

[Mohawkeye]

Thanks OP, I had not seen that. Interest that the #1 team has one loss and we are above OSU. This whole SOS debate certainly riles people up.

 

[desihawk]

I am now beginning to think Iowa can get into the playoffs by winning the B1G even if they drop one in regular season, particularly if they beat an undefeated MSU or OSU. In this scenario, I cannot fathom being left out.
In fact, it might be worth sitting CJ against NE if we are 11-0 that day.

 

[td77]

I am now beginning to think Iowa can get into the playoffs by winning the B1G even if they drop one in regular season, particularly if they beat an undefeated MSU or OSU. In this scenario, I cannot fathom being left out.
In fact, it might be worth sitting CJ against NE if we are 11-0 that day.

What makes you think this? Just curious because all the other signals (media bias, lack of any other current top 25 wins, recent and a bad loss) point to this being a ridiculous opinion when slated against all the other competition.

 

[desihawk]

What makes you think this? Just curious because all the other signals (media bias, lack of any other current top 25 wins, recent and a bad loss) point to this being a ridiculous opinion when slated against all the other competition.

Based on the fact that at least 4 teams ranked above us are slated to lose and the scenario I describe has Iowa winning the B1G beating an undefeated MSU/OSU (which could be the 5th team ranked above us) in a championship, this is a very reasonable opinion. While you may disagree, words like "ridiculous" are ridiculous in this context.

 

[td77]

Based on the fact that at least 4 teams ranked above us are slated to lose and the scenario I describe has Iowa winning the B1G beating an undefeated MSU/OSU (which could be the 5th team ranked above us) in a championship, this is a very reasonable opinion. While you may disagree, words like "ridiculous" are ridiculous in this context.

I disagree again. Ridiculous does meet the context when an opinion is so obscure.

The playoff is a very subjective criteria. You would never, ever bench your best player when there are no guarantees of making the playoff should you lose. This doesn't even take into account the potential of losing said championship game and now having two losses and therefore playing in a lesser bowl game. That is, with all due respect, ridiculous.

 

[Joes Place]

What I'd like to know, is HOW IN THE HELL TCU's SoS is BETTER than Iowa's, when they have ONE >0.500 team on their wins list so far.

Their opponents' cumulative record is <0.400. They have a 5-4 Texas Tech team as the ONLY one w/ a winning record....and they beat a mediocre B10 team by a whopping 6 points to start out the season....

 

[Joes Place]

Thanks OP, I had not seen that. Interest that the #1 team has one loss and we are above OSU. This whole SOS debate certainly riles people up.

It's rather bothersome, especially when it is applied selectively.

Iowa's opponents, to date, have a 36-29 record.
Clemson's are 38-29.
Notre Dame's are 36-28.
Alabama's are 37-29.
MSU's are 35-30.
LSU's are 31-27.
Stanford's are 33-33.
TCU's 25-38.
Baylor's are 20-36.

I realize people 'expect' teams like Texas and K-state to be good, but when they are 3-4 and 3-5, they simply are not good. Baylor has two opponents with ONE WIN between the two of them (Kansas and SMU), a combined 1-15.

The sports pundits are bagging on the teams Iowa has YET TO PLAY, and claiming we are over-ranked based on "not playing anyone yet". I don't think that is necessarily an objective analysis at this point, particularly since there are several teams which may not be historically good, but are showing up as 'pretty good'.

Bear in mind that FSU lost to a 3-6 GaTech team; Iowa has 'low win' teams yet on it's slate, but teams which have played some close games vs Top 25 opponents.