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NCAA TEAM RACE BREAKDOWN

I don't see Ohio State winning it this year. I think it's PSU's to lose and the Buckeyes will be a distant 2nd. PSU scores bonus points out the ass, and I just don't see the Buckeyes keeping up with them. Prefer tOSU or PSU, but just don't see it happening. I think if we pull Lee's and Warner's shirt and PD3 arrives on the scene and lives up to his hype we might be able to get as high as third and perhaps second if all the planets align. But I just don't see any scenario short of PSU suffering major injuries where we have a chance of beating them.
 
Right if that is the case Darin Cruz should win 125. Different standards I guess for some teams with flo. No disrespect to Cenzo, but if you don’t think IMAR is the guy to beat at that weight you are dumb! I mean dumb!
Actually, the standards are exactly the same. Did you happen to read the article explaining how the points were decided? If you did, you’d notice that they were based on rankings. Cenzo is ranked #1 (rightfully so) and was therefore given 1st place points. Cruz is not ranked #1 due to his loss to Picc and therefore was not given 1st place points. No one plugged Cenzo in as an automatic repeat.
 
Honestly that is where we should be right now. But with Lee & PDIII we can get 3rd. Right now I see no way Fosu loses this year. After Lee and PDII start wrestling this is what I have for point totals with no bonus pts.
1. Fosu: 128
2. Psu: 99
3. Iowa: 97
Take into consideration that's a 3rd from Lee and PDII and Kemerer beating Nolf. Plus getting a few more pounts from the Bull and Stoll. I think we can sneak a few more out of a couple other weights as well. Also Joseph is not beating Imar again. Actually I have Joseph getting 3rd or even fourth.
With all that being said flo is dead on with all this breakdown as of right now. But March is still a ways off and I expect a lot to change between now and then!
 
Honestly that is where we should be right now. But with Lee & PDIII we can get 3rd. Right now I see no way Fosu loses this year. After Lee and PDII start wrestling this is what I have for point totals with no bonus pts.
1. Fosu: 128
2. Psu: 99
3. Iowa: 97
Take into consideration that's a 3rd from Lee and PDII and Kemerer beating Nolf. Plus getting a few more pounts from the Bull and Stoll. I think we can sneak a few more out of a couple other weights as well. Also Joseph is not beating Imar again. Actually I have Joseph getting 3rd or even fourth.
With all that being said flo is dead on with all this breakdown as of right now. But March is still a ways off and I expect a lot to change between now and then!
YOUR ARE A DREAMER! im not sure what is more of a dream Iowa taking 3rd or Kemerer beat Nolf
 
I don't see Ohio State winning it this year. I think it's PSU's to lose and the Buckeyes will be a distant 2nd. PSU scores bonus points out the ass, and I just don't see the Buckeyes keeping up with them. Prefer tOSU or PSU, but just don't see it happening. I think if we pull Lee's and Warner's shirt and PD3 arrives on the scene and lives up to his hype we might be able to get as high as third and perhaps second if all the planets align. But I just don't see any scenario short of PSU suffering major injuries where we have a chance of beating them.

The crazy thing is, tOSU is actually really good at scoring bonus pts as well. PSU's bonus really comes from 3 guys: Retherford, Nolf and Nickal. Joseph and Hall may get a couple in the early rounds but will be hard pressed to do so from the quarterfinals on. The 1st 3 weights aren't doing it unless they get a lucky draw for a match in wrestle backs. That leaves Nevills, who has zero history of bonus at NCAA's and an unproven Cassar or their least offensive wrestler in McCutcheon.

So, say 22.5 or so bonus(7.5 from each) should come from the "Big 3" and then say another 8 or so from the rest. Now 30.5(for comparison PSU scored 32 last year) IS a bunch, but tOSU can come close to matching that while actually putting more on the podium. Snyder will be good for 6 or 7. Moore will be good for 5. Martin should get about 4. BoJo at least 2. NaTo at least 2. After that, Pletcher, McKenna, Hayes, M. Jordan and Campbell will all most likely have high seeds to give them at least 1 very bonus likely match. So, low to mid 20's is VERY likely for tOSU.

With the above said, I have still been picking PSU, but by a very slim margin. Obviously, the main reason why isn't bonus. It is going to be the extra 4pts that 1st gets over 2nd and inevitably how many finish in the upper half of the placement scoring spectrum(16,12,10,9,7,6,4,3). I think PSU goes 1,1,1,1,3,4,6,R12,2-2 and 0-2. tOSU goes 1,1,2,3,3,5,6,6,7,R12.

So, that would put PSU at 16+16+16+16+10+9+6+3+2+0+28.5(advancement)+30.5 for 153. tOSU at 16+16+12+10+10+7+6+6+4+3+32.5(advancement)+25=147.5.

The 2 more 1st place finishes outscore tOSU's 2nd and 3rd place by 10.5 pts.

Finally, the above is also the reason why I say Iowa should hold off this year. Where PSU's highest points could falter(Hall and Nickal) tOSU would most likely gain if it happened(BoJo and Martin). I just don't see how both teams could end up under 140 and I see NO WAY that Iowa could get to 140.
 

Thanks for that, and I will do one. However, I would like to wait until the brackets actually come out. To many things can happen between now and then.

However, I would like to say that I am EXTREMELY grateful for the site. If you come to Detroit next year for NCAA's I will gladly buy you a beer(or 2 or 3......).
 
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When do the NCAA's go to Defroit? Cleveland next year. Pittsburgh 2019.
 
Well Penn State will most likely pull Nick Lee red shirt to take over 141 and he will score points. Also the God has a 125 transfer coming in so they say on BWI so they might get a few there also..Only way Ohio State can win every thing has to right for them.
 
I'm not trying to predict injuries because I don't think it'll happen but what if Zain and or Snyder suffer injuries? It's not likely but not impossible. Lets not forget that we've seen title favorite and a bonus machine (McD) have an injury and not score many pts at Nationals. Injuries happen and a lot can change between now and March.
 
I'm not trying to predict injuries because I don't think it'll happen but what if Zain and or Snyder suffer injuries? It's not likely but not impossible. Lets not forget that we've seen title favorite and a bonus machine (McD) have an injury and not score many pts at Nationals. Injuries happen and a lot can change between now and March.
I've been working overtime on my PSU and tOSU voo-doo dolls, but no luck so far. . . .
 
Right if that is the case Darin Cruz should win 125. Different standards I guess for some teams with flo. No disrespect to Cenzo, but if you don’t think IMAR is the guy to beat at that weight you are dumb! I mean dumb!
most folks thought IMAR was the guy to beat last year also..not the case, as they say that is why they wrestle.
 
The crazy thing is, tOSU is actually really good at scoring bonus pts as well. PSU's bonus really comes from 3 guys: Retherford, Nolf and Nickal. Joseph and Hall may get a couple in the early rounds but will be hard pressed to do so from the quarterfinals on. The 1st 3 weights aren't doing it unless they get a lucky draw for a match in wrestle backs. That leaves Nevills, who has zero history of bonus at NCAA's and an unproven Cassar or their least offensive wrestler in McCutcheon.

So, say 22.5 or so bonus(7.5 from each) should come from the "Big 3" and then say another 8 or so from the rest. Now 30.5(for comparison PSU scored 32 last year) IS a bunch, but tOSU can come close to matching that while actually putting more on the podium. Snyder will be good for 6 or 7. Moore will be good for 5. Martin should get about 4. BoJo at least 2. NaTo at least 2. After that, Pletcher, McKenna, Hayes, M. Jordan and Campbell will all most likely have high seeds to give them at least 1 very bonus likely match. So, low to mid 20's is VERY likely for tOSU.

With the above said, I have still been picking PSU, but by a very slim margin. Obviously, the main reason why isn't bonus. It is going to be the extra 4pts that 1st gets over 2nd and inevitably how many finish in the upper half of the placement scoring spectrum(16,12,10,9,7,6,4,3). I think PSU goes 1,1,1,1,3,4,6,R12,2-2 and 0-2. tOSU goes 1,1,2,3,3,5,6,6,7,R12.

So, that would put PSU at 16+16+16+16+10+9+6+3+2+0+28.5(advancement)+30.5 for 153. tOSU at 16+16+12+10+10+7+6+6+4+3+32.5(advancement)+25=147.5.

The 2 more 1st place finishes outscore tOSU's 2nd and 3rd place by 10.5 pts.

Finally, the above is also the reason why I say Iowa should hold off this year. Where PSU's highest points could falter(Hall and Nickal) tOSU would most likely gain if it happened(BoJo and Martin). I just don't see how both teams could end up under 140 and I see NO WAY that Iowa could get to 140.

I'm with you my friend...NO WAY!! Seriously, some crazy stuff would have to happen for Iowa to be anywhere near the top two...
 
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