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Penn State wins 24-10. Replay available on BTN2GO.
News items:
Retherford majors Sueflohn.
Upset: #13 McCutcheon gets the TD with one second left to win 8-7 over #5 Dudley.
McIntosh needs OT to beat Studebaker.
Penn State tries yet another wrestler at 285. Nope.


Penn State 24, Nebraska 10
125: Nico Megaludis (Penn State) dec Tim Lambert (Nebraska), 8-5
133: Jordan Conaway (Penn State) dec Eric Montoya (Nebraska), 5-3
141: Anthony Abidin (Nebraska) dec Kade Moss (Penn State), 4-1
149: Zain Retherford (Penn State) maj dec Jake Sueflohn (Nebraska), 12-3
157: Jason Nolf (Penn State) tech fall Tyler Berger (Nebraska), 19-3
165: Austin Wilson (Nebraska) dec Gino Morelli (Penn State), 3-2
174: Bo Nickal (Penn State) dec Micah Barnes (Nebraska), 10-3
184: Matt McCutcheon (Penn State) dec TJ Dudley (Nebraska), 8-7
197: Morgan McIntosh (Penn State) dec Aaron Studebaker (Nebraska), 2-1
285: Collin Jensen (Nebraska) maj dec Wes Phipps (Penn State), 10-1
 
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Well Dudley did have a decent NCAAs (8th) and his 1 win against McC was there and he also has an early season win over Brown that he has been riding until now.
 
Dudley's gas tank is seriously suspect. If he solves that, he's a tough out. Cutch made a very smart IQ move by cutting him instead of trying to ride him out and go into OT.
 
Kind of a scary win by zain. I hope tsirtsis wrestled Sunday so we can see those two go at it.

Dudley looks to be the better wrestler. He just has huge brain farts on occasion. He's extremely dangersous if your in on him. He definitely has gas tank issues too. He's got some good wins this year...Aayla, Renda, and brown.
 
Azchief32 said:
Dudley's gas tank is seriously suspect. If he solves that, he's a tough out. Cutch made a very smart IQ move by cutting him instead of trying to ride him out and go into OT.
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The couple of times I've seen Dudley this year, his gas tank seemed leaps and bounds better than when I'd last seen him. He definitely has some skills if he doesn't fade. Thought Studebaker looked pretty good at Midlands too, both of their 197 lbers looked decent.
 
SPOONER said:
It was a still a wrestling match. And he still lost. And it absolutely helped his ranking.
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I doubt it helped much. He was ranked 5th because he placed higher at Midlands than Brooks, Zilmer and Dechow. That's what impacted his high ranking.
 
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I don't think that had much to do with it either. Not sure why he was seeded higher than undeafeated at the time Brooks but that is the only reason he placed higher.
 
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DonHawkeye said:
I don't think that had much to do with it either. Not sure why he was seeded higher than undeafeated at the time Brooks but that is the only reason he placed higher.
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Undefeated but how many top ten wins? He did beat Gravina and Dudley lost to him but Dudley also beat Nathaniel Brown. One is a returning AA and one isn't.
 
The reason Dudley was seeded higher was bc he was a returning AA. Sammy doesn't have a whole lot of room to go up in seeds now. It would have been nice to have Dudley ranked in the top 5 when Sammy beats him. Abounader and mccutchen can't really help Sammy but just hurt him. We're pry looking at another 8-9 seed for him which is why midlands was so important . What would be great is if can dual Missouri at national duals and Sammy picks up a w there.
 
There will be tons of opportunities for Brooks to increase his seed. If he wins out there is no way he will be an 8-9 seed.
 
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Omahahawk86 said:
The reason Dudley was seeded higher was bc he was a returning AA. Sammy doesn't have a whole lot of room to go up in seeds now. It would have been nice to have Dudley ranked in the top 5 when Sammy beats him. Abounader and mccutchen can't really help Sammy but just hurt him. We're pry looking at another 8-9 seed for him which is why midlands was so important . What would be great is if can dual Missouri at national duals and Sammy picks up a w there.
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He's ranked 8th now with Dudley at 5th. If Sammy wins big 10s he should be no worse than 6th or 7th.
 
If Brooks wins out I could see him jumping Stauffer, Dudley, Dechow. We also have to remember the funky seeding system they have in place. He would have 1 loss to a guy he has a win against. I don't think they take last years results into account at NCAAs other than the polls I guess.

Hell he could get the second seed if he wins out.

Criteria Weighted Percentage
-Head-to-head 25% (Would be as strong as anyone here other than dean)
-Quality wins 20% (Would end up having 6-7 wins against top 20 guys)
Dudley, Zlimer, Renda, Gravina, Koepke, Probably will have to face Abanador/ McC to win Big Ten)
-Common opponents 10% (Not sure about this)
-RPI 10% (Have to imagine this would be high)
-Qualifying placement 10% (Would be 1st)
-Coaches rank 15% (This could hurt him the most)
-Win percentage 10% (This would be as strong as anyone other than Dean)

I think 2-10 are about the same. I think the big thing would be getting on the other side of the bracket as Dean.

Obviously a 2 or 3 seed would be great but after that a 6 or 7 would be fine too.
 
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CP84 said:
He's ranked 8th now with Dudley at 5th. If Sammy wins big 10s he should be no worse than 6th or 7th.
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Agreed. Most rankings don't have Vic Avery In there who will be ranked very high when he comes back. If he were to win out vs. mcc dudley and abounader he could receive the 6th or 7 seed.

All I'm saying is he won't see any of the top guys coming up and I DONT want him getting the 8 or 9 seed.
 
DonHawkeye said:
If Brooks wins out I could see him jumping Stauffer, Dudley, Dechow. We also have to remember the funky seeding system they have in place. He would have 1 loss to a guy he has a win against. I don't think they take last years results into account at NCAAs.

Hell he could the second seed if he wins out.

Criteria Weighted Percentage
Head-to-head 25%
Quality wins 20%
Common opponents 10%
RPI 10%
Qualifying placement 10%
Coaches rank 15%
Win percentage 10%
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I don't remember what the criteria at last years ncaas was but I remember there was a ton of funky seeds. Like I said I just don't want him to have the 8 or 9 again.
 
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After looking at the criteria and checking out the guys ahead of him I would be really surprised if he wasn't a 2 or 3 seed if he won out, especially if he would get to meet and beat Milkus.

Now he just has to win out:) Nothing to it.
 
FineMaterial said:
Penn State wins 24-10. Replay available on BTN2GO.
News items:
Retherford majors Sueflohn.
Upset: #13 McCutcheon gets the TD with one second left to win 8-7 over #5 Dudley.
McIntosh needs OT to beat Studebaker.
Penn State tries yet another wrestler at 285. Nope.


Penn State 24, Nebraska 10
125: Nico Megaludis (Penn State) dec Tim Lambert (Nebraska), 8-5
133: Jordan Conaway (Penn State) dec Eric Montoya (Nebraska), 5-3
141: Anthony Abidin (Nebraska) dec Kade Moss (Penn State), 4-1
149: Zain Retherford (Penn State) maj dec Jake Sueflohn (Nebraska), 12-3
157: Jason Nolf (Penn State) tech fall Tyler Berger (Nebraska), 19-3
165: Austin Wilson (Nebraska) dec Gino Morelli (Penn State), 3-2
174: Bo Nickal (Penn State) dec Micah Barnes (Nebraska), 10-3
184: Matt McCutcheon (Penn State) dec TJ Dudley (Nebraska), 8-7
197: Morgan McIntosh (Penn State) dec Aaron Studebaker (Nebraska), 2-1
285: Collin Jensen (Nebraska) maj dec Wes Phipps (Penn State), 10-1
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More importantly, nice of Spencer Lee to say hi to me on the way into Rec Hall last night. He sure likes to visit for some reason.
 
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Omahahawk86 said:
Kind of a scary win by zain.
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It was a lot closer than the scored indicated. Sueflohn was in multiple times on Zain's legs, and was awarded the TD with under a minute left to make it 8-4. Cael called for a review and reversed the call, of course.
 
HoundedHawk said:
It was a lot closer than the scored indicated. Sueflohn was in multiple times on Zain's legs, and was awarded the TD with under a minute left to make it 8-4. Cael called for a review and reversed the call, of course.
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Agreed, Zain lucky to escape
 
To be the best you have to beat the best
If he goes to PSU so be it. Our future lightweights dont seem to be scared. I woulda love to have him here but unless there is a miracle im doubting it.
Good wishes but there are only so many great lightweights. Psu cant say it
 
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NittanyChris said:
If people were being totally honest right now, I think Zain would be favored over Sorenson. At the same time I'd favor Gilman over Megaludis. Just my two cents.
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I disagree with Zain comment it clearly comes from Nebby outcome. Let me remind you Jake Sueflohn has been ranked in the top 8 each of the last 3 seasons. How did that go for him? Inconsistent to even argue the point.
Get lost A
 
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pinters said:
I disagree with Zain comment it clearly comes from Nebby outcome. Let me remind you Jake Sueflohn has been ranked in the top 8 each of the last 3 seasons. How did that go for him? Inconsistent to even argue the point.
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Thanks for the heads up about sueflon the last three years. Curious though, how do you get ranked in the top 8 when you redshirt? As for how it went for him last year, I'm not quite sure. There may be an underground redshirt nationals tournament none of us know about.

I highly doubt someone with the username "hounded hawk" would be pro Nebraska anything.
 
HoundedHawk said:
It was a lot closer than the scored indicated. Sueflohn was in multiple times on Zain's legs, and was awarded the TD with under a minute left to make it 8-4. Cael called for a review and reversed the call, of course.
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Meh. Even if Sueflohn is awarded that TD, Retherford escaped immediately. So the review and reversed call essentially made it 7-2 instead of 8-4. After a TD, release, and another TD in the last minute, plus the 3+ minutes of RT, the final was 12-3. Take away the review, and the final is 13-5 instead of 12-3. Hardly a material difference, and still a major.

And as someone else stated, Rutherford had 5 TDs and 3:17 in RT. But if you want to believe the bout was a lot closer than the score indicated, so be it.
 
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I will agree with the PSU goons. It was not close. Zain is beast. He might not have got the major with the reversed takedown, which I think was a takedown, but Zain was in control of that match. Much like Sorenson, Zain handled Sueflohn.
 
pinters said:
To be the best you have to beat the best
If he goes to PSU so be it. Our future lightweights dont seem to be scared. I woulda love to have him here but unless there is a miracle im doubting it.
Good wishes but there are only so many great lightweights. Psu cant say it
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Can't say what? I think an Iowa v PSU rivalry is great for wrestling. I wish the best for Iowa wrestling.
 
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Meh. Even if Sueflohn is awarded that TD, Retherford escaped immediately. So the review and reversed call essentially made it 7-2 instead of 8-4. After a TD, release, and another TD in the last minute, plus the 3+ minutes of RT, the final was 12-3. Take away the review, and the final is 13-5 instead of 12-3. Hardly a material difference, and still a major.

And as someone else stated, Rutherford had 5 TDs and 3:17 in RT. But if you want to believe the bout was a lot closer than the score indicated, so be it.
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I think when Sueflohn didn't get the call it changed his mentality pretty quick. He lost his incentive.
 
DonHawkeye said:
I will agree with the PSU goons. It was not close. Zain is beast. He might not have got the major with the reversed takedown, which I think was a takedown, but Zain was in control of that match. Much like Sorenson, Zain handled Sueflohn.
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I'd agree with that. I just said the match was closer than the scored indicated. I didn't say the match was close.
 
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