No they don’t. They like making fun of you guys. You were good along time ago but you suck now.
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You and all the husker fans here live in fantasy land. Once again they are making fun of you.That's the thing about the internet. I can be in more than one place at a time.
He asked how I could say at this point that Frost is recruiting well. So I gave examples. Given that it's early and barely any of the four year players he has recruited have had time to get on the field, there are other means of evaluating how well he is doing with talent infusion. This discussion clearly went over your head.
Even though you say it out loud, I know you know getting Ws vs Nebraska is only getting more and not less difficult for the foreseeable future. You win a few in a row and you act like Iowa owns Nebraska. Texas owned Nebraska. Iowa is just a consistent program that has taken advantage of Nebraska's struggles like a bunch of other conference schools have over the last few years.
That's the thing about the internet. I can be in more than one place at a time.
You still here Dumbass? I would think you would be gone licking your wounds. Are you banned from the Husker board?When you resort to things like this, you know you've taken the L. Like one of your other brethren, best thing you can do is take your L and move on. Perhaps stay out of conversations you know nothing about.
For clarity - Nebraska has recruited, on average, the 27-28th best class in the country. Not excellent by any means. They have 32 players in the NFL. Iowa, and all of its amazing development, has 38 guys on NFL rosters. Pretty neat. There are tons of schools that have 20+ guys in the NFL. Hell, Duke has 14 or 15. I think Delaware has around 13.No it hasn’t. I will give you the NFL draft picks. Winning one division title in 8 years does not impress much and to me...if Ferentz is this great developmental coach you say he is...he could use some more talent at his disposal to get over the hump. That’s where the recruiting highly ranked kids vs beating out MAC teams comes in to play.
LOL. YOu get schooled by three different people and you are too stupid to realize it. What a pathetic loser.You still here Dumbass? I would think you would be gone licking your wounds. Are you banned from the Husker board?
I see you're creating your own narrative about what I believe will happen. That's a fun conversation for you to have inside your head.And you secretly believe that Scotty will return Nebraska to the 1990s. Those days are gone boy and they ain't coming back.
Sounds like you need a nap Dumbass.LOL. YOu get schooled by three different people and you are too stupid to realize it. What a pathetic loser.
Dumbass you seem to like research. Why don’t you research how many offers the other programs you consider blue bloods have made. Get back to us with the numbers and we may change our mind about how Frost recruits. If not quit talking about this complicated recruiting process that Nebraska implements. Oh...and while you’re researching find out how many Nebraska players are starters in the NFL compared to Iowa players. This should keep you occupied for awhile.For clarity - Nebraska has recruited, on average, the 27-28th best class in the country. Not excellent by any means. They have 32 players in the NFL. Iowa, and all of its amazing development, has 38 guys on NFL rosters. Pretty neat. There are tons of schools that have 20+ guys in the NFL. Hell, Duke has 14 or 15. I think Delaware has around 13.
Oh, we are back to the offers thing again? So lazy. And it looks like you've more than run out of new material. It's obvious I should have put this lame blind dog (you) down a while ago, but it was fun to see how deep your stupid ran. Turns out, it's REALLY deep. But now that you're recycling arguments for the 4th and 5th times, I'm bored of you. So I guess I'll just block you.Dumbass you seem to like research. Why don’t you research how many offers the other programs you consider blue bloods have made. Get back to us with the numbers and we may change our mind about how Frost recruits. If not quit talking about this complicated recruiting process that Nebraska implements. Oh...and while you’re researching find out how many Nebraska players are starters in the NFL compared to Iowa players. This should keep you occupied for awhile.
What an idiotic post. I answered that question about 25 mins before you posted this. 38 Iowa players. 32 Nebraska players on NFL rosters. Not much difference.Dumbass you seem to like research. Why don’t you research how many offers the other programs you consider blue bloods have made. Get back to us with the numbers and we may change our mind about how Frost recruits. If not quit talking about this complicated recruiting process that Nebraska implements. Oh...and while you’re researching find out how many Nebraska players are starters in the NFL compared to Iowa players. This should keep you occupied for awhile.
Well Dumbass this thread does have “offer” in its title. You have just gone off so many different directions that you forgot where you were. I would be disappointed if you blocked me since we have become so close with nicknames and all. I guess we better not expect anymore research from you anytime soon.Oh, we are back to the offers thing again? So lazy. And it looks like you've more than run out of new material. It's obvious I should have put this lame blind dog (you) down a while ago, but it was fun to see how deep your stupid ran. Turns out, it's REALLY deep. But now that you're recycling arguments for the 4th and 5th times, I'm bored of you. So I guess I'll just block you.
Iowa players = StartersWhat an idiotic post. I answered that question about 25 mins before you posted this. 38 Iowa players. 32 Nebraska players on NFL rosters. Not much difference.
You called it early!Rest assured this post will hit the 5 page mark soon.
Oh look, wimpy just blocks people he disagrees withOh, we are back to the offers thing again? So lazy. And it looks like you've more than run out of new material. It's obvious I should have put this lame blind dog (you) down a while ago, but it was fun to see how deep your stupid ran. Turns out, it's REALLY deep. But now that you're recycling arguments for the 4th and 5th times, I'm bored of you. So I guess I'll just block you.
I think I hurt his feelings.Oh look, wimpy just blocks people he disagrees with
Yeah everyone is aware how terrible of a coach Mike Riley was
There was an article posted last week about how we're staying "hot on the recruiting trail" and in the article it talked about how the majority of our recruits have P5 offers, and that's what makes this class impressive. Here's my question. If offers are thrown out so flippantly, how come the majority of our recruits don't have more offers from the big boys or better P5 programs?
Deuce Hogan and Elijah Yelverton have offer lists that show how highly they're coveted and their expected upside.
Gavin Williams (Michigan/Nebraska), Tyler Elsbury (WVU/Mizzou), Josh Volk (ISU/Nebraska), and Logan Jones (Minnesota/Nebraska) are all borderline with a couple of bigger P5 offers.
The rest? The rest of our class boasts one or two P5 offers from bottom feeders of the P5. They don't have offer lists that show big recruiting victories for us. So are we just that fine with Captain Kirk carrying on recruiting completely middle of the road classes and developing a few of them into NFL players while Iowa goes 7-5 or 8-4 or 6-6 for eternity?
I like the class, I just think it's funny how we talk crap when we recruit middle of the road classes over and over and over. I appreciate the development of them, but good grief. Aim higher and when we recruit top 25 classes, then maybe we can talk.
I'll explain. It's because you really never win and probably never will again win anything of significance. Yes, you can claim beating a bad Mike Riley led Husker team, and then a first year coach trying to pick up the pieces, but probably won't happen that often going forward. We all know that conference and national titles won't either. Your welcome.
Your Mike Riley Utopia is over. You always tell NU fans not to live in the past... Well. That is the past. Scott Frost is now the coach. I'm interested to see how his recruits pan out.
That’s IoWWWWa to you buddy boy.
I’m laughing at these Nebraska fans coming on and yelling about all of their highly recruited guys Frost brought on in his first couple of years. How many of these 4 star guys are coming in and playing immediately? Almost none.
Meanwhile Iowa guys are often playing at a high level as true freshmen/first year players. Our 3 star blows away your 4 or 5 star overranked player any day of the week. The reason is simple. When Iowa recruits players, they carefully cultivate relationships with recruits and their offers are all committable until spots are filled. Iowa generally only has a handful of offers out at a time. You have to visit campus unofficially generally speaking to get an offer as well. Iowa also does not use high pressure tactics either.
Often this trust between player and coach results in players that end their recruitment early and the services that rank these players aren’t getting the access to them to evaluate and raise their profile. The services sometimes don’t often evaluate well late bloomers or players that don’t make it to major camps for whatever reason. Sometimes these players do get offered by the big boys - but often it is so late in the cycle that they go unreported.
Iowa plays a certain moneyball aspect of this too. They’re better at evaluating than the services by far. Iowa is better at developing developmental players than just about anyone. They also understand the circumstances of a player that is likely to succeed. Often that means taking a lower-ranked player that is close to home rather than a higher ranked player in Texas for example.
Nebraska is starting to learn all of that under Frost. I expect he’ll be trying harder to fight for more recruits in Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, and Missouri as time goes on. I would also bet that the 400 plus scholly thing ends up going away sooner rather than later if he sticks around. That’s something that may kill Matt Campbell’s career too if he doesn’t stop that stupid crap.
That’s IoWWWWa to you buddy boy.
I’m laughing at these Nebraska fans coming on and yelling about all of their highly recruited guys Frost brought on in his first couple of years. How many of these 4 star guys are coming in and playing immediately? Almost none.
Meanwhile Iowa guys are often playing at a high level as true freshmen/first year players. Our 3 star blows away your 4 or 5 star overranked player any day of the week. The reason is simple. When Iowa recruits players, they carefully cultivate relationships with recruits and their offers are all committable until spots are filled. Iowa generally only has a handful of offers out at a time. You have to visit campus unofficially generally speaking to get an offer as well. Iowa also does not use high pressure tactics either.
Often this trust between player and coach results in players that end their recruitment early and the services that rank these players aren’t getting the access to them to evaluate and raise their profile. The services sometimes don’t often evaluate well late bloomers or players that don’t make it to major camps for whatever reason. Sometimes these players do get offered by the big boys - but often it is so late in the cycle that they go unreported.
Iowa plays a certain moneyball aspect of this too. They’re better at evaluating than the services by far. Iowa is better at developing developmental players than just about anyone. They also understand the circumstances of a player that is likely to succeed. Often that means taking a lower-ranked player that is close to home rather than a higher ranked player in Texas for example.
Nebraska is starting to learn all of that under Frost. I expect he’ll be trying harder to fight for more recruits in Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, and Missouri as time goes on. I would also bet that the 400 plus scholly thing ends up going away sooner rather than later if he sticks around. That’s something that may kill Matt Campbell’s career too if he doesn’t stop that stupid crap.
Frost has had one class eligible to see the field under him and he had all of two months to put it together. And during those two months he received commitments from more four stars than Ferentz has in years. Of course, we all know Ferentz is too lazy and old to hit the recruiting trail with the big dogs.
And that class included Adrian Martinez.
Of course, again...Frost has signed/received commits from more 4 star recruits in 1.5 years than Ferentz has in a decade yet Iowa fans believe its Frost that is doing it wrong. Not the guy that has won one division title in 8 years but supposedly is a wizard on the recruiting trail.
No Nebraska fan is downplaying development. Development has been the biggest issue at Nebraska. They had issues under Pelini and major issues under Riley. If Kirk is such a great developer then why dont Iowa fans want Kirk to develop 4 stars? OL and TE, no one should doubt his offers there. But RB, WR, etc, Iowa has had a lot of trouble there, why wouldnt you want a higher caliber of athlete? RB in paticular. With the offense Iowa runs, they should be getting a 4 star back every year.
I doubt they offer as many guys goping forward if they start winning, but at the same time I dont really care. Bama offers alot of guys. You might as well offer the #1 player in the country, I dont see why it matters. Maybe you peak some interest. Nebraska got Wandale Robinson a top 75 player out of Kentucky. Kentucky isnt Nebraska recruiting grounds. Nebraska offered Darian Chase a 4 star WR in Washington last year. He was interested, visited and committed like a month later. If Nebraska wasnt scouting Kentucky and Washington they woudlnt have gotten these 2 4 star players. If you watch film and a guy fits your system, why not offer?
I never said Neb has personally met each kid they offer. They watch film, like everyone, and offer kids they are interested in. If there is mutual interest then communication continues and relationships are built. It's not hard to understand.Just look at the offer list, Nebraska is offering everyone with stars. Come on get real over 400 offers, no way the recruiting staff has had personal time with each of them. As far as the high school recruiting coordinator how does he know Nebraska hasn’t lied to him if his kids are going to Texas. I’m going to tell you what your fans tell Iowa fans on the Husker board. Go to your own board, no one here cares what you think. Oh...and Nebraska sucks!
Wrong.Kirk looks for program fit. Scotty looks for stars. We got it.
Of course, we all know Ferentz is too lazy and old to hit the recruiting trail with the big dogs.
What takes more time and effort? Seeing guys in camp and getting to know them on a campus visit before offering or looking at who has 4 stars on rivals and texting them an offer? I could “recruit” 400+ guys before lunch today using one of these two methods.
What takes more time and effort? Seeing guys in camp and getting to know them on a campus visit before offering or looking at who has 4 stars on rivals and texting them an offer? I could “recruit” 400+ guys before lunch today using one of these two methods.
Maybe you can explain why Iowa does that.Iowa does not offer until a recruit has been on campus.
Jealousy at its finest and I love seeing Hawk tears LMAO. They wish so bad they could get playmakers and they can't! Have fun with all them slow white midwestern kids. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WINNING 8 GAMES YOU IDIOTS. Frost will be GREAT, something Iowa doesn't know how to be. He took over a bag of d*cks roster. You point fingers after one year when the great KF won 1 game his first year. You guys are the delusional ones
Maybe you can explain why Iowa does that.
If you like a kids film, have communicated with him and there's mutual interest, why not offer?
Don't you think a kid that, let's say has 15 P5 offers and legit interest in 8, would be more likely to use an OV on a school that has already offered than one that requires you to visit before getting an offer?
Iowa would like to finish higher in the recruiting ranks correct? So why do Iowa fans care how it's done? You would be lying if you say no. The TOP teams all recruit well. Nebraska, like Iowa, doesn't have any talent around us. We have to go out and get it. Travel non-stop. Sorry that you are okay with having 3 star Midwest kids when we aren't.
This...Offering and landing 4 stars are two different things. But apparently you believe that Nebraska still has some major pull considering you assume Nebraska just offers a 4 star and he accepts right away.
Yes, recruiting 4 stars and going against other high major programs takes more time than battling South Dakota St and the MAC conference.
You get to know character by talking to their coaches, teachers, parents, and the kids themselves. That doesn't require face to face. Then if you like what you hear and there's mutual interest you bring them in for an official visits, or unofficial if they're close.How do you know what their character is? Or you just throwing shit at the wall?
Uh, Fant wasn't a cast off.We will gladly take your Drew Otts, Noah Fants and Nathan Bazata's. We love them here. Your cast offs. The 3 stars as you will.