I wonder what the posters who are disgusted with the "woke" crowd think they should be called. The sleeping crowd? The eyes closed crowd? The conked crowd?
Neil Young tells Spotify to choose between him and Joe Rogan.
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I agree with the ACLU:
Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups.
No, I don't.
You're a hoot.
What does a moderator do?
Definition of censor
transitive verb
: to examine in order to suppress (see SUPPRESS sense 2) or delete anything considered objectionable
censor the news
also : to suppress or delete as objectionable
censor out indecent passages
Right wingers are the worst at coming up with logical analogies.
Note the word “groups” in the definition you choose to follow.
Neil Young is not a group. He is an individual who chooses not to be associated with a company that is associated with Rogan.
No matter how many times you say it, it’s still not censorship.
You are wrong. Just admit it.
You, arguably, by this definition, participate in censorship by your own “benshapiroing”.
He’s Canadian-American. He holds dual citizenship. That means he passed a citizenship test, which is something a lot of natural-born Americans probably couldn’t do.
I didn't look. She was famous during the free love era so if you do a search you might find some.
A business deal made based on his own conscience. It’s not censorship. You are wrong.
Then argue it.
I've never tried to suppress anyone else's speech here.
Quite the opposite, I'm trying to get them to offer their opinion, or more often the reasoning behind their opinion. It's possible they know about something, or have considered it from an angle that I had not.
Do you think when someone "lol"s and ducks out of the conversation after they've been asked a question that they've been suppressed? Or is it something else?
If he had simply quit Spotify, I'd completely agree.
But an ultimatum to remove someone else's content goes beyond that, and that's where his letter went.
It was immediately recognized as such, and acknowledged by you.
You can't gloss over or ignore the thing that makes it an attempt to censor someone else's communications with third parties.
That's why it is censorship.
You try to suppress ideas by truncating and excerpting and pretty much disallowing context when it suits your ideological bent. So… suppression… so… censoring. There is no arguing with you given this is your behavior. It’s a waste of time.
But anyone is free to include any context they feel applies. I have no power to stop them, nor have I tried to exercise it.
Are you talking about highlighting a sentence in a post asking about it instead of quoting the whole thing in a chunk? I avoid that usually because it buries it in fade. If you read that as an effort to suppress, you misread. I'm not trying to 'Dowdify' anyone comments to twist them into something else. I'm merely trying to bring focus to what I'm asking about. If there is additional context, it's what I'm looking for.
I'm arguing with mstp because he wants to drop the context of Neil's ultimatum from analyzing Neil's goals. I think that leads to his confusion about why it was an effort to censor Rogan.
I think that’s exactly what he did.
I don’t get the sense that Young demanded they remove Rogan or had any illusions that they would remove Rogan.
Rogan is Spotify’s bell cow and I’m reasonably certain Young understands that. Young is, what, 50th or something like that on their list of top content providers?
I don’t think he tried to leverage Rogan’s ouster or anything of that nature. He simply decided he didn’t want to be associated with a company that allows Rogan to spread information he considers a hazard to public health so he told Spotify to remove his music.
And now you just argued on behalf of the behavior of Neil Young, you dipshit wannabebenshapiro.
Interesting that Young and Mitchell are promoting their music on Amazon Music, which has done more damage to lives and businesses than Joe Rogan could ever do.
“They can have Rogan or Young. Not both.”
That's why the Washington Post headline called it an ultimatum.
I don’t see that as an attempt to get Rogan removed. Again, I don’t think Young had any illusions that Spotify would drop Rogan in order to keep access to his music. That was simply Young’s way of saying that if Rogan is going to continue spreading his views about vaccines on Spotify then Spotify can’t stream his music anymore.
The rest of the story….
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By the definition you used, Young’s behavior was not censorship. It was a business decision. He disagreed with Rogan’s views on vaccines and based on his own beliefs told Spotify that if they didn’t do something about it he was going to leave. He never said Rogan could NOT present his views. Young merely said he doesn’t want to be associated with a platform that DOES allow it.
Just admit that you’re wrong on this issue. You remind me of someone with damage in the VMPFC.
Nobody ever said they couldn’t be hypocritical, too. But, they aren’t attempting censorship either.
It's amazing the least talented cast member of News Radio has such reach.
Ok, so how long does this last for Neil Young? Is he done with Spotify forever? Let’s say COVID actually goes away in a couple years, or mutates to where there are no longer significant numbers of deaths. Let’s say that the vaccine is no longer even a talking point. Is this it for NY. This one issue at this one moment in time, is that enough to hold a forever grudge?
I don't want to be one who spreads false information. It appears this tweet was false and Manilow did not remove his music from Spotify.
Isn't Neil Young the guy that was on a crusade against GMOs?
Bigger picture here, I think we're going through a transitory phase societally where vastly differing opinions are learning how to co-exist in world where information and communication is incredibly democratized -- anybody can be heard. And it's bad, and it's good, and it's our new reality.
I think there's a good chance we'll make it through to the other side and stabilize. This was always the internet's destiny, and so it is ours.
In general... I say work on the problems that create mistrust and attachment to bad ideas rather than trying to use power and clout to stop them.
Bigger picture here, I think we're going through a transitory phase societally where vastly differing opinions are learning how to co-exist in world where information and communication is incredibly democratized -- anybody can be heard. And it's bad, and it's good, and it's our new reality.
I think there's a good chance we'll make it through to the other side and stabilize. This was always the internet's destiny, and so it is ours.
In general... I say work on the problems that create mistrust and attachment to bad ideas rather than trying to use power and clout to stop them.
LOL. He'll never be as brain dead as your corrupt cult leader. Or joe rogan, for that matter.
Even when dead Rogan and Trump will have more active brain cells than N. Young has right now.
I’d say not long at all. I have Neil Young in my 2022 celebrity dead pool.
LOL. Neil has lost more than they had to begin. You can include your whole cult. All of you are brain washed and brain dead.
