I haven’t expressed any surprise. If someone posts that they think Nelson is going to be a 4 time AA and 2 time NCAA champ based off results from two opens where he didn’t face a single ranked wrestler that point is fair game to discuss. This is an Internet forum, after all.
I’ve been pro Nelson Brands for some time and defended him in the past, lest anyone think I’m trying to be a hater.
Gunther is ranked 14-15 in all the polls I've seen.