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Netanyahu Picks Academic Who Insulted Obama and Kerry as Diplomacy Chief

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Just another indication of how tone deaf and blind to Israel's increasing isolation in the world community that Nethanyahu has become:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel has picked as his new chief of public diplomacy a conservative academic who suggested President Obama was anti-Semitic and compared Secretary of State John Kerry’s “mental age” to that of a preteen.

The choice for the role of diplomacy chief, Ran Baratz, lives in a settlement in the occupied West Bank and a decade ago expressed his wish to see the building of a third Jewish temple on a contested Old City compound. Palestinians say such provocative ideas have helped fuel the recent outbreak of attacks against Israeli Jews, though Mr. Netanyahu insists he has no plans to change the current arrangement at the site.

Just last week, he insulted Israel’s president, Reuven Rivlin, in a Facebook post.

Israeli politicians called for the nomination to be rescinded, while commentators said the decision was sloppy work on the part of his staff — Mr. Netanyahu’s office said he was unaware of even Mr. Baratz’s most recent Facebook comments — and reflected the prime minister’s blindness to Israel’s increasing isolation.

“He’s giving a very strong negative message to the world, which is, ‘I don’t care about public diplomacy, I have a right-wing government, I have a right-wing policy, and I’m going to send people who are offensive,’ ” said Mitchell Barak, a political consultant in Jerusalem. “Every time, people say, ‘Oh, he must have made a mistake, we can’t take it seriously,’ but frankly, he seems to be sending a very clear message, which is, ‘I’m going to appoint the hard-core ideologues, I’m not going to even pay lip service to any diplomatic solution, I’m going to entrench myself more.’ ”

The selection of Mr. Baratz, which is subject to cabinet approval, comes at an inauspicious moment: The prime minister and Mr. Obama are scheduled to sit down together on Monday for the first time in more than a year, a summit meeting seen as an opportunity to repair their rocky relationship after it plunged to new depths.

The official announcement said Mr. Baratz would serve as Mr. Netanyahu’s media adviser and head of public diplomacy and media for the prime minister’s office, a job that was not clearly defined; he would replace Liran Dan, who left in August as head of the national information directorate, akin to a communications director who guided message strategy.

Mr. Baratz’s nomination joins a pile of right-wing appointments that have raised eyebrows in Washington and other Western capitals, and a string of recent problems with message discipline.

Mr. Netanyahu last week quieted his deputy foreign minister, Tzipi Hotovely, after she told an interviewer that she dreamed of raising the Israeli flag atop the Temple Mount, the Old City site known to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary.

He also retracted his own statement that it was a Palestinian cleric, not Hitler, who came up with the idea to annihilate Europe’s Jews — a statement that was declared to be completely false by Holocaust historians but that earned the sympathy of Mr. Baratz.

Mark Regev, Mr. Netanyahu’s spokesman, would not say whether Mr. Baratz would join the prime minister on his trip to Washington, or if anyone had vetted his social-media profile and other public writings before announcing his selection Wednesday evening.

Around midnight, the prime minister’s office posted on Facebook that Mr. Netanyahu “was not aware of the things Ran Baratz wrote and views them as unworthy expressions.”

Mr. Baratz, for his part, told Israeli news outlets that his Facebook posts were written as a private citizen and intended to be humorous, and that his tone would change when he became a government professional.

“Naturally,” he wrote on his own page Wednesday night, “my Facebook activity, which includes a myriad of political remarks, critical and satirical, will be reduced and focus more on the personal and less on the public.”

Mr. Baratz, 42, has a Ph.D. in philosophy and founded Mida, a far-right website where he responded last year to Mr. Kerry’s remarks on a Muslim holiday by saying, “This is the time to wish the secretary of state good luck, and to count down the days with the hope that someone over there at the State Department will wake up and begin to see the world through the eyes of a person whose mental age exceeds 12.”

In March, Mr. Baratz used Facebook to criticize Mr. Obama’s reaction to Mr. Netanyahu’s speech in Congress against the nuclear deal with Iran. “This is how modern anti-Semitism looks like in the modern Western world,” he wrote.

In June, he said the dispute over the Iran deal was “a strategic disagreement, it does not have to do with the personalities of Obama or Netanyahu, their relationship, American Jews or someone’s table manners.”

“While Obama helps us with tactical issues like threats by Hamas and Hezbollah, he is establishing a new global strategy of compromise with Iran,” Mr. Baratz wrote, also on Facebook. “Obama has certainly thrown us under the wheels of the bus, even if he did this with a winning smile, while he supplied us with plenty of Band-Aids.”

Regarding the Temple Mount, Mr. Baratz, who is not religious, wrote in a 2004 essay that “the desire to build the third temple is worthy, Jewish and Zionist of the highest level,” adding that he hoped a way to build it would be found.

He said that if Muslims “will not accept our sovereignty” at the site, “there will anyway be war.”

Then, last week, he lashed out at Israel’s president, Mr. Rivlin, calling him “a marginal figure” unworthy of assassination, and suggesting that he “could be sent in a paraglider” into Syria, where the Islamic State would retreat if only Israel would take him back. Mr. Rivlin’s office said it viewed the comments with “utmost gravity.”

Haim Katz, Israel’s welfare minister and a member of Mr. Netanyahu’s Likud Party, said Thursday afternoon that he would vote against the nomination when it comes to the cabinet because “this person is not worthy” and “you can find people that apparently think twice before they speak.”

Gila Gamliel, another Likud minister, told Israeli reporters that the nomination should be reconsidered “because the role of head of public diplomacy and media is very sensitive.”

“Expressions against the country’s president and elements of the American administration harm symbols of our government and our great friend, and could be interpreted as an official position,” Ms. Gamliel said, according to a Facebook post by Tal Schneider, a political blogger who broke the news of Mr. Baratz’s nomination.

Isaac Herzog, leader of the opposition in Parliament, demanded on Thursday that Mr. Netanyahu withdraw the nomination.

“A person like this who lashed out against President Obama, besmirched Secretary Kerry, and, worst of all, degraded the beloved president of his country — our most important symbol — must go home and immediately, before he even arrived,” Mr. Herzog said at a conference. “It was faulty judgment that a person like this suits an official national position.”

Ms. Schneider, the blogger, said in an interview that while some of Mr. Baratz’s statements might be shocking to Americans, “in Israel 2015, Ran Baratz is not considered any more a right-wing crazy guy, some of the views that he makes are sort of what people are saying everywhere in Israel.”

Anshel Pfeffer, a columnist for the left-leaning Israeli daily Haaretz, described Mr. Baratz as a neoconservative, libertarian, “academic version of Bibi,” using Mr. Netanyahu’s nickname, or “Bibi without diplomacy.”

“It reflects what Bibi thinks,” he added. “Somebody who says Obama is modern anti-Semitism, and Kerry is like a 12-year-old, somebody who is openly hostile to Rivlin — it’s certainly what Bibi believes.”

Rafi Mann, a professor of communication at Ariel University in the West Bank, dismissed Mr. Baratz’s defense of his comments, telling Israel Radio, “Anyone who is about to be appointed head of national P.R. has to know there is no such thing as a private page.”

But Yinon Magal, a lawmaker from the conservative Jewish Home party, said Mr. Baratz’s statements “have been taken completely out of proportion.”

“Let everyone go back 10 years in his own Facebook, in his own recordings,” Mr. Magal suggested in a radio interview. “There would be no one who could be appointed to the post.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/w...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
Pretty apparent that Obama doesn't like Netanyahu and Netanyahu doesn't like Obama. Relations with Israel have never been worse and things in the ME have become very unsettled.

Fingers can be pointed in all directions but Obama's ME foreign policy strategy has been a disaster.
 
But Ciggy, you've been defending Iran's leaders who insult Obama and Kerry consistently.
 
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Just another indication of how tone deaf and blind to Israel's increasing isolation in the world community that Nethanyahu has become:

So, how is this any different than Obama appointing people that are insulting to the GOP?

Is Netanyahu somehow supposed to act differently when making decisions he feels are in the best interests of his country and administration?
 
So, how is this any different than Obama appointing people that are insulting to the GOP?

Is Netanyahu somehow supposed to act differently when making decisions he feels are in the best interests of his country and administration?
So you admit the GOP works for Israel? That saves a lot of keystrokes.
 
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Pretty sure thats' not what he said....but as our only real ally in that part of the world, the current administration should be doing more, and not so quick to publicly scold them every time they take action to defend themselves against those that would rather see them wiped off the face of the earth....just saying.
 
Pretty sure thats' not what he said....but as our only real ally in that part of the world, the current administration should be doing more, and not so quick to publicly scold them every time they take action to defend themselves against those that would rather see them wiped off the face of the earth....just saying.

You're right.

Natural has been grasping at straws lately. It started in a back and forth thread about Bush "lying" about WMD in Iraq.
 
And really.....he wouldn't have to bash them if they (especially Kerry....good lord he's bad) wouldn't make it so easy. And why should he say anything nice at all about them when these two have gone out of there way to bad mouth them?
 
Pretty sure thats' not what he said....but as our only real ally in that part of the world, the current administration should be doing more, and not so quick to publicly scold them every time they take action to defend themselves against those that would rather see them wiped off the face of the earth....just saying.
Pretty sure that's not what the administration does, thanks for playing.
 
You're right.

Natural has been grasping at straws lately. It started in a back and forth thread about Bush "lying" about WMD in Iraq.
LOL, you're still butt hurt about that. I'm honored you found my arguments so hefty.
 
Just another indication of how tone deaf and blind to Israel's increasing isolation in the world community that Nethanyahu has become:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel has picked as his new chief of public diplomacy a conservative academic who suggested President Obama was anti-Semitic and compared Secretary of State John Kerry’s “mental age” to that of a preteen.

The choice for the role of diplomacy chief, Ran Baratz, lives in a settlement in the occupied West Bank and a decade ago expressed his wish to see the building of a third Jewish temple on a contested Old City compound. Palestinians say such provocative ideas have helped fuel the recent outbreak of attacks against Israeli Jews, though Mr. Netanyahu insists he has no plans to change the current arrangement at the site.

Just last week, he insulted Israel’s president, Reuven Rivlin, in a Facebook post.

Israeli politicians called for the nomination to be rescinded, while commentators said the decision was sloppy work on the part of his staff — Mr. Netanyahu’s office said he was unaware of even Mr. Baratz’s most recent Facebook comments — and reflected the prime minister’s blindness to Israel’s increasing isolation.

“He’s giving a very strong negative message to the world, which is, ‘I don’t care about public diplomacy, I have a right-wing government, I have a right-wing policy, and I’m going to send people who are offensive,’ ” said Mitchell Barak, a political consultant in Jerusalem. “Every time, people say, ‘Oh, he must have made a mistake, we can’t take it seriously,’ but frankly, he seems to be sending a very clear message, which is, ‘I’m going to appoint the hard-core ideologues, I’m not going to even pay lip service to any diplomatic solution, I’m going to entrench myself more.’ ”

The selection of Mr. Baratz, which is subject to cabinet approval, comes at an inauspicious moment: The prime minister and Mr. Obama are scheduled to sit down together on Monday for the first time in more than a year, a summit meeting seen as an opportunity to repair their rocky relationship after it plunged to new depths.

The official announcement said Mr. Baratz would serve as Mr. Netanyahu’s media adviser and head of public diplomacy and media for the prime minister’s office, a job that was not clearly defined; he would replace Liran Dan, who left in August as head of the national information directorate, akin to a communications director who guided message strategy.

Mr. Baratz’s nomination joins a pile of right-wing appointments that have raised eyebrows in Washington and other Western capitals, and a string of recent problems with message discipline.

Mr. Netanyahu last week quieted his deputy foreign minister, Tzipi Hotovely, after she told an interviewer that she dreamed of raising the Israeli flag atop the Temple Mount, the Old City site known to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary.

He also retracted his own statement that it was a Palestinian cleric, not Hitler, who came up with the idea to annihilate Europe’s Jews — a statement that was declared to be completely false by Holocaust historians but that earned the sympathy of Mr. Baratz.

Mark Regev, Mr. Netanyahu’s spokesman, would not say whether Mr. Baratz would join the prime minister on his trip to Washington, or if anyone had vetted his social-media profile and other public writings before announcing his selection Wednesday evening.

Around midnight, the prime minister’s office posted on Facebook that Mr. Netanyahu “was not aware of the things Ran Baratz wrote and views them as unworthy expressions.”

Mr. Baratz, for his part, told Israeli news outlets that his Facebook posts were written as a private citizen and intended to be humorous, and that his tone would change when he became a government professional.

“Naturally,” he wrote on his own page Wednesday night, “my Facebook activity, which includes a myriad of political remarks, critical and satirical, will be reduced and focus more on the personal and less on the public.”

Mr. Baratz, 42, has a Ph.D. in philosophy and founded Mida, a far-right website where he responded last year to Mr. Kerry’s remarks on a Muslim holiday by saying, “This is the time to wish the secretary of state good luck, and to count down the days with the hope that someone over there at the State Department will wake up and begin to see the world through the eyes of a person whose mental age exceeds 12.”

In March, Mr. Baratz used Facebook to criticize Mr. Obama’s reaction to Mr. Netanyahu’s speech in Congress against the nuclear deal with Iran. “This is how modern anti-Semitism looks like in the modern Western world,” he wrote.

In June, he said the dispute over the Iran deal was “a strategic disagreement, it does not have to do with the personalities of Obama or Netanyahu, their relationship, American Jews or someone’s table manners.”

“While Obama helps us with tactical issues like threats by Hamas and Hezbollah, he is establishing a new global strategy of compromise with Iran,” Mr. Baratz wrote, also on Facebook. “Obama has certainly thrown us under the wheels of the bus, even if he did this with a winning smile, while he supplied us with plenty of Band-Aids.”

Regarding the Temple Mount, Mr. Baratz, who is not religious, wrote in a 2004 essay that “the desire to build the third temple is worthy, Jewish and Zionist of the highest level,” adding that he hoped a way to build it would be found.

He said that if Muslims “will not accept our sovereignty” at the site, “there will anyway be war.”

Then, last week, he lashed out at Israel’s president, Mr. Rivlin, calling him “a marginal figure” unworthy of assassination, and suggesting that he “could be sent in a paraglider” into Syria, where the Islamic State would retreat if only Israel would take him back. Mr. Rivlin’s office said it viewed the comments with “utmost gravity.”

Haim Katz, Israel’s welfare minister and a member of Mr. Netanyahu’s Likud Party, said Thursday afternoon that he would vote against the nomination when it comes to the cabinet because “this person is not worthy” and “you can find people that apparently think twice before they speak.”

Gila Gamliel, another Likud minister, told Israeli reporters that the nomination should be reconsidered “because the role of head of public diplomacy and media is very sensitive.”

“Expressions against the country’s president and elements of the American administration harm symbols of our government and our great friend, and could be interpreted as an official position,” Ms. Gamliel said, according to a Facebook post by Tal Schneider, a political blogger who broke the news of Mr. Baratz’s nomination.

Isaac Herzog, leader of the opposition in Parliament, demanded on Thursday that Mr. Netanyahu withdraw the nomination.

“A person like this who lashed out against President Obama, besmirched Secretary Kerry, and, worst of all, degraded the beloved president of his country — our most important symbol — must go home and immediately, before he even arrived,” Mr. Herzog said at a conference. “It was faulty judgment that a person like this suits an official national position.”

Ms. Schneider, the blogger, said in an interview that while some of Mr. Baratz’s statements might be shocking to Americans, “in Israel 2015, Ran Baratz is not considered any more a right-wing crazy guy, some of the views that he makes are sort of what people are saying everywhere in Israel.”

Anshel Pfeffer, a columnist for the left-leaning Israeli daily Haaretz, described Mr. Baratz as a neoconservative, libertarian, “academic version of Bibi,” using Mr. Netanyahu’s nickname, or “Bibi without diplomacy.”

“It reflects what Bibi thinks,” he added. “Somebody who says Obama is modern anti-Semitism, and Kerry is like a 12-year-old, somebody who is openly hostile to Rivlin — it’s certainly what Bibi believes.”

Rafi Mann, a professor of communication at Ariel University in the West Bank, dismissed Mr. Baratz’s defense of his comments, telling Israel Radio, “Anyone who is about to be appointed head of national P.R. has to know there is no such thing as a private page.”

But Yinon Magal, a lawmaker from the conservative Jewish Home party, said Mr. Baratz’s statements “have been taken completely out of proportion.”

“Let everyone go back 10 years in his own Facebook, in his own recordings,” Mr. Magal suggested in a radio interview. “There would be no one who could be appointed to the post.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/w...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Why not just reference the damn article instead of wasting all this space esp on a mobile.
 
Pretty sure? How sure? I'm mean, put a percentage on that....is it 80%....90%.....or is it 0%? Because congressman in your own party would disagree with you.

http://unitedwithisrael.org/jewish-congressmen-tell-white-house-to-curb-anti-netanyahu-rhetoric/


But why would we believe a bunch of Jews in congress when Natural is "pretty sure" they're wrong?
First, look at your source. Second do you think your source supports your statement?
not so quick to publicly scold them every time they take action to defend themselves
 
Did you read the article? I know it's an older article....but it addresses things said about Netty over his statements toward Palestine and Iran. And thanks for doing what I thought you'd do....question the source......never mind the direct quotes.

So....are you still "pretty sure" Because I'm sure the administration has done exactly what I stated.
 
Did you read the article? I know it's an older article....but it addresses things said about Netty over his statements toward Palestine and Iran. And thanks for doing what I thought you'd do....question the source......never mind the direct quotes.

So....are you still "pretty sure" Because I'm sure the administration has done exactly what I stated.
Yes, I'm pretty sure Obama has a fairly strong record of supporting Israel, especially in the area of security He just won't give them a free pass in their apartheid efforts. Why do you?
 
Yes, I'm pretty sure Obama has a fairly strong record of supporting Israel, especially in the area of security He just won't give them a free pass in their apartheid efforts. Why do you?

Actually, he has provided unprecedented support and cooperation with Israel in terms of their security forces and agencies.
 
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Yes, I'm pretty sure Obama has a fairly strong record of supporting Israel, especially in the area of security He just won't give them a free pass in their apartheid efforts. Why do you?

"Apartheid efforts".......in my best Charlie Brown.....good grief. The "kicking around" of the Palestinians didn't start with Israel.....and history will show they exhibited more restraint in dealing with them than anyone else. I hate sounding like "that guy".....but I do come from a military family.....my brother has been everywhere and dealt with nearly every military you can name......he's told me the fact that Israel hasn't just gone in and cleaned that mess up is amazing....and this administration is not a friend to Israel....no matter what is said publicly now. He's retired now (about a month ago.....25 years as a marine...retired as a colonel) and has told me more about "things" now than he ever did while active....stuff would make your toes curl....nasty, nasty people over there.
 
"Apartheid efforts".......in my best Charlie Brown.....good grief. The "kicking around" of the Palestinians didn't start with Israel.....and history will show they exhibited more restraint in dealing with them than anyone else. I hate sounding like "that guy".....but I do come from a military family.....my brother has been everywhere and dealt with nearly every military you can name......he's told me the fact that Israel hasn't just gone in and cleaned that mess up is amazing....and this administration is not a friend to Israel....no matter what is said publicly now. He's retired now (about a month ago.....25 years as a marine...retired as a colonel) and has told me more about "things" now than he ever did while active....stuff would make your toes curl....nasty, nasty people over there.
Your brother could probably tell you that even when the enemy acts nasty, the marines are still held to a standard of conduct. Facing a nasty enemy doesn't validate being nasty. Obama is holding Israel to the same standard he held your brother to. And if you don't think its apartheid like over there, you aren't very well informed.
 
JFC what team are you on? When Obama or Kerry offends Ben you guys rise up. When Ben offends the U.S. You side with a foreign power. I think maybe you guys need different flags behind your guys at the next debate.
No we are Americans but the fact is Ben knows better how to defend America than BHO.
 
I don't think it's just the GOP. Either way...F*CK ISRAEL. Let them fight their own wars.

That is the issue. If we just let Israel fight their own wars they will eventually win in very quick fashion and we get dragged into the middle of it. Hell we will get blamed by all parties for allowing Israel to nuke their enemies.

Israel is essential a caged/cornered animal geographically, eventually when they feel threatened enough, they will violently lash out.
 
"Apartheid efforts".......in my best Charlie Brown.....good grief. The "kicking around" of the Palestinians didn't start with Israel.....and history will show they exhibited more restraint in dealing with them than anyone else. I hate sounding like "that guy".....but I do come from a military family.....my brother has been everywhere and dealt with nearly every military you can name......he's told me the fact that Israel hasn't just gone in and cleaned that mess up is amazing....and this administration is not a friend to Israel....no matter what is said publicly now. He's retired now (about a month ago.....25 years as a marine...retired as a colonel) and has told me more about "things" now than he ever did while active....stuff would make your toes curl....nasty, nasty people over there.
Haven't seen such virulent fascist bullshit here for a while.
 
Pretty apparent that Obama doesn't like Netanyahu and Netanyahu doesn't like Obama. Relations with Israel have never been worse and things in the ME have become very unsettled.

Fingers can be pointed in all directions but Obama's ME foreign policy strategy has been a disaster.

The U.S. Mideast policy hasn't meant jack in over 40 years. Two large groups of people who violently hate each other, each of whom fervently believe God is on their side, living in the same region. It will never be anything but a disaster, U.S. policy be damned.
 
I read this morning that Netanyahu plans to have a talk with Baratz after he returns from a trip to DC to meet with Obama. Not even a promise to fire or discipline him. Just a talk.

Unless Obama is planning to lay down the law to Netanyahu - something that hasn't happened yet, so presumably won't this time - Obama should cancel the visit.

Then he should issue whatever executive orders he needs to cut off whatever trade and assistance we provide to Israel until there is a 2-state treaty signed by all sides and moving forward at an acceptable pace. And that should be all of Obama's policy toward Israel unless/until that happens.

We are the effing U S of A. If we want Israel and the Palestinians to sign a peace treaty, they damn well better sign an effing peace treaty that meets our requirements.

Let the GOP scream. Obama isn't running for reelection. Hillary can distance herself from it if she wants to so that the GOP can't use it against her. No big deal. But, frankly, I suspect there are plenty on left and right who are damned tired of this game. Time to stop enabling it.
 
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We are the effing U S of A. If we want Israel and the Palestinians to sign a peace treaty, they damn well better sign an effing peace treaty that meets our requirements.

LOL, you sound like one of them red state Republicans. Hold a rifle over your head while making that speech and you'd be in perfect character.
 
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