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New California Movement Hopes To Create 51st State

The Coast would still control the vast majority of Electoral College votes.
 
The Coast would still control the vast majority of Electoral College votes.

They would hold the majority for sure, but not vast.

Let’s say this did actually happen. With the counties that would make up “New California”, they would hold 20+ electoral college votes. Assuming the movement got the counties it wanted.

I don’t even know why people are getting excited about this. It’s never going to happen.
 
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It is their fault that they are liberal morons. Easily 75B in debt means they are your typical liberal morons.

It would be interesting if they did split (will never happen) to see which does better fiscally. Just to see which side supports which and which causes more debt.
 
New York, Illinois and Pennsylvania should all do the same

Let's start calling all these new "rural states" names like: District 9, District 6, District 13, etc.
We can put walls around them to keep all the "darker skinned folks" away.

What's the worst that can happen here...???
 
Puerto Rico has never wanted statehood until they became bankrupt. Now they want to be the 51st state. It also happens the Democrats not support it because that means two more leftist Senators and one congressional rep.
 
If California, Texas, Illinois, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Kansas, New York, and Nebraska would just leave, we could have a great country.
 
Sure but over time they would most likely also starve to death....

With all the money? Hardly.

Your "District 16" will need to pay a hefty "port fee" to enable you to trade out of their ports, which will provide them ample sustenance....
 
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With all the money? Hardly.

Your "District 16" will need to pay a hefty "port fee" to enable you to trade out of their ports, which will provide them ample sustenance....

All their money won't be enough when they find that they have to rely solely on themselves to support the indigent that flock to their door step. And produce can easily go north or south to access more reasonably priced non-urban ports,... Over time Coastal California would turn into an urban ghetto sprawl....
 
Just a conservative wet dream to try and break a stronghold for Democratic electoral votes. These proposals get thrown out for New York and Illinois all the time too.
 
Puerto Rico has ALWAYS wanted statehood.

Taxation WITH representation.

You are wrong about that

In Puerto Rico, the local legislature has conducted four nonbinding status plebiscites. In 1967, Puerto Ricans, who were already U.S. citizens, voted to keep their territorial autonomy (60 percent), rejecting the statehood (39 percent) and independence (less than 1 percent) options.

In a second plebiscite held in 1993, Puerto Ricans again affirmed the status quo (49 percent) over statehood (46 percent) and independence (4 percent).

In a third plebiscite held in 1998, the Popular Democratic Party organized a boycott of the plebiscite. With the support of the Puerto Rican Supreme Court, the commonwealth party was able to amend the ballot to add a “none of the above” option. As a result, 50 percent of voters chose “none of the above” in protest. Only 47 percent of Puerto Ricans voted for statehood and 2.5 percent for independence.

In 2012, the Puerto Rican legislature conducted the fourth plebiscite. It was divided into two questions, which some people argue intentionally diluted support for territorial autonomy.

The first question asked whether Puerto Rico should maintain its commonwealth or territorial status. A majority of Puerto Ricans (54 percent) voted no.

The second question gave Puerto Ricans a choice among several status options, including statehood, a sovereign free associated republic, and independence, but excluded the status quo. This exclusion prompted upwards of 500,000 voters to simply skip this question on the ballot as a form of protest. The majority (61 percent) of Puerto Ricans who voted on the second question picked statehood. However, if you include the voters who skipped the question, the percentage of those who chose this option drops to only 45 percent.
 
The first question asked whether Puerto Rico should maintain its commonwealth or territorial status. A majority of Puerto Ricans (54 percent) voted no.

A plurality, and significant portion of them, have supported statehood. For a long time.
 
This has been talked about since i was a kid living in Sacramento. It goes now where because those coastal cities depend on the natural resources of the rural counties.
 
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