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New details on the bizarre effort to hide the USS John S. McCain for Trump

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It’s one of those Trump controversies that you might have somehow forgotten, due to the volume of such flaps.
The Wall Street Journal reported in May 2019 that the military had worked to obscure the USS John S. McCain ahead of President Donald Trump’s visit to a neighboring ship in Japan. It was a decision that apparently stemmed from Trump’s feuds with the decorated war hero and late senator, who was added as a namesake for the ship initially named for his father and grandfather. But the senator had died just nine months prior, rendering the effort particularly bizarre.


Trump initially seemed to confirm that someone had tried to keep the ship out of sight, while emphasizing that he didn’t request it. But then he called the reporting into question, citing a statement from the Navy and suggesting that the report was “an exaggeration, or even Fake News.”







It was not fake news, as a batch of newly released emails reinforces and details.
The emails, obtained by Bloomberg News reporter Jason Leopold and by the Wall Street Journal through Freedom of Information Act requests, fill out the story of military officials responding to a request from the White House Military Office. Among the discoveries:
  • They show military officials saying repeatedly that this was a White House request, but also that officials didn’t want to put it in writing.
  • At one point, a military official was apparently so taken aback by the request that the person asked that it be confirmed. “I could see that becoming a Tweet,” the official added.
  • Another military official responded the next morning by saying, “This just makes me sad.”
While there were calls for investigations at the time, including by then-acting defense secretary Patrick Shanahan and McCain’s successor in the Senate, Martha McSally (R-Ariz.), we’ve learned very little since then. And while it might not rank too high on the list of Trump-era controversies, it’s at the very least hugely emblematic of officials’ often-strange attempts to treat Trump with kid gloves, for fear of angering him.

The released emails stretch back to more than a month before Trump’s late-May 2019 visit. And while they redact virtually everything said by White House officials, the context makes clear that the request to hide the USS McCain did come from the White House.






On April 12, the director of the White House Military Office, Rear Adm. Keith Davids, replies to an email from Rear Adm. Ted LeClair, the deputy commander of the U.S. 7th Fleet, which is headquartered in Japan. The contents of the email are almost entirely redacted.
On April 22, the director of operations for the White House Military Office forwards another email (also almost completely redacted) to 7th Fleet officials.

On April 24, the chief of staff for the 7th Fleet replies, looping in five White House Military Office (WHMO) addresses and a public affairs officer. “Clay — get this worked ASAP with Charlie Brown at [U.S. Pacific Fleet] and see what you can provide,” the email says.
On May 15 comes the first unredacted reference to obscuring the USS John S. McCain. An official in the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command writes to fellow military officials, “Please see below for excerpt from discussions between WHMO and” the 7th Fleet. Among three directions listed: “3. USS John McCain needs to be out of sight.” It instructs recipients to “please confirm #3 will be satisfied.”






One recipient forwards the email, pasting only the text of that directive. In another email, potentially from the same official, the instructions are forwarded with the comments:

Just talked to [REDACTED] on bullet number 3. He is checking on the validity.
3. USS John McCain needs to be out of sight.
I could see that becoming a Tweet…
One of the recipients replies by saying, “This just makes me sad…”
Further emails reference the White House requesting that the ship be obscured. A May 24 email from the 7th Fleet chief of staff cites “the WH request to keep the name not visible” and “that JSM be ‘kept out of sight.’ ”
“We asked for a formal order but non [sic] was forthcoming,” the email states.
The same day, another official runs through the situation, saying, “This direction was passed to” someone in the White House Military Office, “who in turn provided this guidance to” the 7th Fleet. The email also cites a Davids email to LeClair — potentially the April 12 email above — “emphasizing the importance of making sure this happens.”







And for the first time, it references a Navy official who “took additional steps by hanging the … brow banner,” while emphasizing this was “NOT directed” by the 7th Fleet.

While the “brow banner” reference isn’t clear, the Wall Street Journal published a photo of what it called a “tarp” covering the ship’s name. The photo was taken the same day as the email — May 24.
Later on May 24, the 7th Fleet commander, Vice Adm. Phillip G. Sawyer, emails the Pacific Fleet commander, Adm. John C. Aquilino, and again cites the request as coming from the White House Military Office. He says that the “banner” and “paint scaffolding” were used to “ensure JSM name was not visible” from the USS Wasp, the ship on which Trump would appear:

We received an RFI re tasking ‘to keep MCCAIN out of sight’ during the upcoming DV1 visit. A rough reconstructed sequence of events follows:
* O/A 15 May: WHMO requested (SIPR traffic) to ensure JSM was not visible from WSP.
* This WHMO request was later (o/a 16 May) pushed out by INDOPACOM planners to JTF POTUS and component commanders. ALCON were tracking this as a requirement though it was not listed in the IPC PLANORD.
* Based on the tasking above, organizations under my OPCON leaned forward to ensure JSM name was not visible from WASP. This includes:
--Designating JSM as the CDS-15 Flagship. CDS-15 banner is now on the JSM brow (vice a JSM banner)
--Placing a paint scaffolding at the stern of the ship. This partially obscures the ship’s name.
--JSM’s 4-day Memorial Day weekend runs from Saturday through Tuesday (the day of DV1 visit)
(Note: All you see from the WASP wrt JSM is JSM’s bow and the hull name 56)
(The “weekend” reference appears to cite another detail reported by the Journal: That “sailors on the ship, who typically wear caps bearing its name, were given the day off during Mr. Trump’s visit.”)






Sawyer recommended “no further actions” and added that “this includes ‘undoing’ anything that has been done (brow banner, paint scaffolding).”
Further emails from May 25 feature military officials trying to account for those actions and again noting that other military officials resisted putting instructions in writing.
The tarp was taken down that day, the Navy confirmed. The Journal reported that a barge later blocked the name but was also moved.

After the controversy exploded, the Navy issued a statement noting that the name of the ship was not obscured during Trump’s visit — but without acknowledging that it had been previously, and deliberately so. Trump seized upon this, tweeting: “The Navy put out a disclaimer on the McCain story. Looks like the story was an exaggeration, or even Fake News — but why not, everything else is!”
Yet again, the fake news was instead coming from inside the Oval Office.

 
We are two years into the next guy, inflation is at historic levels, the market has lost 20% this year, we are paying for a war on the other side of the world, we have unregulated immigration, gas prices are in the way back up, they changed the definition of the word "recession" and the pandemic Joe promised to get under wraps has now been passed to its going to do what it's going to do, we spent a shit ton of money on an infrastructure bill that I continue to ask when will that money make it to the ground (no answer) and the selling point of student loans being forgiven just got another bullshit asterisks.




The last guy was worried about a boat though.



Smh.


"If democrats are so smart how come they lose so.god damn always"



There is your ****ing answer.
 
We are two years into the next guy, inflation is at historic levels, the market has lost 20% this year, we are paying for a war on the other side of the world, we have unregulated immigration, gas prices are in the way back up, they changed the definition of the word "recession" and the pandemic Joe promised to get under wraps has now been passed to its going to do what it's going to do, we spent a shit ton of money on an infrastructure bill that I continue to ask when will that money make it to the ground (no answer) and the selling point of student loans being forgiven just got another bullshit asterisks.




The last guy was worried about a boat though.



Smh.


"If democrats are so smart how come they lose so.god damn always"



There is your ****ing answer.
It’s relevant because it speaks to the psyche of much of our country. And, guess what: some people can juggle all the things you just listed while also taking a moment to reflect on stuff like this — which, again, is relevant still given we’re still in this moment where that man and his entitled petulance is not just embraced, but encouraged up and down ballots for offices at all levels.
 
It’s relevant because it speaks to the psyche of much of our country. And, guess what: some people can juggle all the things you just listed while also taking a moment to reflect on stuff like this — which, again, is relevant still given we’re still in this moment where that man and his entitled petulance is not just embraced, but encouraged up and down ballots for offices at all levels.
It speaks to the psyche that some.people want to.always bitch about the other side.
 
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We are two years into the next guy, inflation is at historic levels, the market has lost 20% this year, we are paying for a war on the other side of the world, we have unregulated immigration, gas prices are in the way back up, they changed the definition of the word "recession" and the pandemic Joe promised to get under wraps has now been passed to its going to do what it's going to do, we spent a shit ton of money on an infrastructure bill that I continue to ask when will that money make it to the ground (no answer) and the selling point of student loans being forgiven just got another bullshit asterisks.




The last guy was worried about a boat though.



Smh.


"If democrats are so smart how come they lose so.god damn always"



There is your ****ing answer.

So, you don't think we should be helping NATO help Ukraine. Was there regulated immigration under trump and did he keep his promise to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it? Did you forget trump downplayed the Coronavirus and then was stupid enough to admit it and being responsible for approximately 400,000 unnecessary American deaths according to multiple experts? Do you remember INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK every week for 4 years under trump that Biden solved? Please tell us what you and what trump and his wonderful administration would have done to keep inflation low in the US and all over the world and what you and trump would have done to keep gas prices from rising.
 
We are two years into the next guy, inflation is at historic levels, the market has lost 20% this year, we are paying for a war on the other side of the world, we have unregulated immigration, gas prices are in the way back up, they changed the definition of the word "recession" and the pandemic Joe promised to get under wraps has now been passed to its going to do what it's going to do, we spent a shit ton of money on an infrastructure bill that I continue to ask when will that money make it to the ground (no answer) and the selling point of student loans being forgiven just got another bullshit asterisks.




The last guy was worried about a boat though.



Smh.


"If democrats are so smart how come they lose so.god damn always"



There is your ****ing answer.
Trump is going to run for office again in 2024. I can't think of a more clear and present danger to the nation.
 
Trump is going to run for office again in 2024. I can't think of a more clear and present danger to the nation.
Vlad putin is opening talking about using Nukes and you are worried about a 80+ year old guy possibly doing something in 2 years.... let that sink in.
 
So, you don't think we should be helping NATO help Ukraine.
Helping, sure, paying a dollar foe everyone else's 25c, no. Especially since the left will turn around and bitch about military spending the moment it fits the agenda.



Was there regulated immigration under trump
Yes. You might remember the crying at the border about children and parents... and those white pants.


and did he keep his promise to build a wall
Yes.

and have Mexico pay for it?



Did you forget trump downplayed the Coronavirus and then was stupid enough to admit it and being responsible for approximately 400,000 unnecessary American deaths according to multiple experts?
Pick a side her mate, 400k on Trump and how many on Biden or can we agree pandemics are bad?


Do you remember INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK every week for 4 years under trump that Biden solved?
Biden solved infrastructure week? What?


Please tell us what you and what trump and his wonderful administration would have done to keep inflation low in the US and all over the world
Not the world, look at the numbers and who has the highest inflation. Hint, it's cou tries thst activity border a ongoing war and US. Hell the cou try where the pandemic started has negative inflation. Let me.know how thst inflation reduction spending helps us or the billions sent to China for test of a disease from china, or how the money we sent to the taliban could have been used to offset American cost. You think Trump regulates the shit out of shipping like we saw 8 months ago that started to higher prices? You think Trump gets a deal done to open more reserves from other countries(say what you want dude got deals done) instead of Biden begging people only to get laughed at.


and what you and trump would have done to keep gas prices from rising.
See above.
 
Vlad putin is opening talking about using Nukes and you are worried about a 80+ year old guy possibly doing something in 2 years.... let that sink in.
I'd rather not have Putin's bitch boy back in power. He'd throw a wrench into the Western World united against Russia. Putin isn't much different from North Korea with his nuke talks. It's a bullying tactic to try and save face. Get concessions. Putin knows using them is guaranteed end of his regime.
 
We are two years into the next guy, inflation is at historic levels, the market has lost 20% this year, we are paying for a war on the other side of the world, we have unregulated immigration, gas prices are in the way back up, they changed the definition of the word "recession" and the pandemic Joe promised to get under wraps has now been passed to its going to do what it's going to do, we spent a shit ton of money on an infrastructure bill that I continue to ask when will that money make it to the ground (no answer) and the selling point of student loans being forgiven just got another bullshit asterisks.




The last guy was worried about a boat though.



Smh.


"If democrats are so smart how come they lose so.god damn always"



There is your ****ing answer.
So none of the 20% decline in stock markets was due to things trump did or supported to keep the market up? Ok good to know. If I remember correctly, the market went up the most during stimulus during trumps rule, and also when he created the new tax law to decrease taxes. Isn't it convenient that if we are in a slightly more inflationary environment and one with higher interest rates, that the market would come down. Whether Trump or Biden was in charge we would have had this correction. Ok I will go on my way. We are now in a recession, however not an employment one, this is an inventory, and supply chain caused recession, this will look much different than any other recession we have been in. I don't expect unemployment to get above 4.5 to 5%.
 
You are doing great Rudy, those boats man.
Quick read, summarizes some of my thoughts and maybe helps you understand why it’s actually non unimportant to keep somewhat front-of-mind the psyche behind trumpism (or, if you prefer, simple present-day conservatism), and how this effectually empowers the likes of your aforementioned Putin.

 
Helping, sure, paying a dollar foe everyone else's 25c, no. Especially since the left will turn around and bitch about military spending the moment it fits the agenda.




Yes. You might remember the crying at the border about children and parents... and those white pants.



Yes.






Pick a side her mate, 400k on Trump and how many on Biden or can we agree pandemics are bad?



Biden solved infrastructure week? What?



Not the world, look at the numbers and who has the highest inflation. Hint, it's cou tries thst activity border a ongoing war and US. Hell the cou try where the pandemic started has negative inflation. Let me.know how thst inflation reduction spending helps us or the billions sent to China for test of a disease from china, or how the money we sent to the taliban could have been used to offset American cost. You think Trump regulates the shit out of shipping like we saw 8 months ago that started to higher prices? You think Trump gets a deal done to open more reserves from other countries(say what you want dude got deals done) instead of Biden begging people only to get laughed at.



See above.

Only in a maggot world would you believe all that you posted. Just for fun, google how many unnecessary American coronavirus or covid deaths is trump responsible. And the border wall trump built, if so, a person might wonder why that didn't solve the problem that you're now blaming Biden for.
 
Only in a maggot world would you believe all that you posted. Just for fun, google how many unnecessary American coronavirus or covid deaths is trump responsible. And the border wall trump built, if so, a person might wonder why that didn't solve the problem that you're now blaming Biden for.
I want to make sure I'm understanding this, if I google a specific thing, you think I'll find something supporting it, no matter how valid. Are you familiar with conformation bias? As a counter question, how many deaths is Biden reaponsible for?
 
I want to make sure I'm understanding this, if I google a specific thing, you think I'll find something supporting it, no matter how valid. Are you familiar with conformation bias? As a counter question, how many deaths is Biden reaponsible for?
Just STFU talking about confirmation bias. JFC man have some damn self awareness. Unreal.
 
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Quick read, summarizes some of my thoughts and maybe helps you understand why it’s actually non unimportant to keep somewhat front-of-mind the psyche behind trumpism (or, if you prefer, simple present-day conservatism), and how this effectually empowers the likes of your aforementioned Putin.

You got to be ****ing kidding me here Rudy.



They blow through "yeah, Biden could have renegotiated and should have left people at Bagram AFB" with a giant "but trump". North Korea wasn't launching those missles as Trump tried to buddy up with them as the article suggest, they started when they knew we had a feckless leader.
 
Trump is going to run for office again in 2024. I can't think of a more clear and present danger to the nation.
Maybe this time we'll really get "Repeal/Replace" and "Mexico will pay for it"?

Nah......

Trump on the ballot in 2024 is a Dem dream scenario.
 
You gonna cry Rudy? ****ing relax man.


Same question, how many deaths is Biden responsible for?
You mistake my being tired of the dumb for an emotional reaction. I’m not into the blame game for anything COVID related, never have been. So not going to bother with that.

But you are so full of shit just within this thread, bro. It’s amazing.
 
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You got to be ****ing kidding me here Rudy.



They blow through "yeah, Biden could have renegotiated and should have left people at Bagram AFB" with a giant "but trump". North Korea wasn't launching those missles as Trump tried to buddy up with them as the article suggest, they started when they knew we had a feckless leader.
Holy shit. So sorry … wait you gunna cry bro that the article wasn’t salty enough on Biden?! lol. Fück off dipshit. You’re such a weak stick podunk. Lol.
 
We are two years into the next guy, inflation is at historic levels, the market has lost 20% this year, we are paying for a war on the other side of the world, we have unregulated immigration, gas prices are in the way back up, they changed the definition of the word "recession" and the pandemic Joe promised to get under wraps has now been passed to its going to do what it's going to do, we spent a shit ton of money on an infrastructure bill that I continue to ask when will that money make it to the ground (no answer) and the selling point of student loans being forgiven just got another bullshit asterisks.




The last guy was worried about a boat though.



Smh.


"If democrats are so smart how come they lose so.god damn always"



There is your ****ing answer.
Vlad putin is opening talking about using Nukes and you are worried about a 80+ year old guy possibly doing something in 2 years.... let that sink in.
And yet here you are spending all of your time and effort defending Trump. Let THAT sink in.
 
It’s one of those Trump controversies that you might have somehow forgotten, due to the volume of such flaps.
The Wall Street Journal reported in May 2019 that the military had worked to obscure the USS John S. McCain ahead of President Donald Trump’s visit to a neighboring ship in Japan. It was a decision that apparently stemmed from Trump’s feuds with the decorated war hero and late senator, who was added as a namesake for the ship initially named for his father and grandfather. But the senator had died just nine months prior, rendering the effort particularly bizarre.


Trump initially seemed to confirm that someone had tried to keep the ship out of sight, while emphasizing that he didn’t request it. But then he called the reporting into question, citing a statement from the Navy and suggesting that the report was “an exaggeration, or even Fake News.”







It was not fake news, as a batch of newly released emails reinforces and details.
The emails, obtained by Bloomberg News reporter Jason Leopold and by the Wall Street Journal through Freedom of Information Act requests, fill out the story of military officials responding to a request from the White House Military Office. Among the discoveries:
  • They show military officials saying repeatedly that this was a White House request, but also that officials didn’t want to put it in writing.
  • At one point, a military official was apparently so taken aback by the request that the person asked that it be confirmed. “I could see that becoming a Tweet,” the official added.
  • Another military official responded the next morning by saying, “This just makes me sad.”
While there were calls for investigations at the time, including by then-acting defense secretary Patrick Shanahan and McCain’s successor in the Senate, Martha McSally (R-Ariz.), we’ve learned very little since then. And while it might not rank too high on the list of Trump-era controversies, it’s at the very least hugely emblematic of officials’ often-strange attempts to treat Trump with kid gloves, for fear of angering him.

The released emails stretch back to more than a month before Trump’s late-May 2019 visit. And while they redact virtually everything said by White House officials, the context makes clear that the request to hide the USS McCain did come from the White House.






On April 12, the director of the White House Military Office, Rear Adm. Keith Davids, replies to an email from Rear Adm. Ted LeClair, the deputy commander of the U.S. 7th Fleet, which is headquartered in Japan. The contents of the email are almost entirely redacted.
On April 22, the director of operations for the White House Military Office forwards another email (also almost completely redacted) to 7th Fleet officials.

On April 24, the chief of staff for the 7th Fleet replies, looping in five White House Military Office (WHMO) addresses and a public affairs officer. “Clay — get this worked ASAP with Charlie Brown at [U.S. Pacific Fleet] and see what you can provide,” the email says.
On May 15 comes the first unredacted reference to obscuring the USS John S. McCain. An official in the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command writes to fellow military officials, “Please see below for excerpt from discussions between WHMO and” the 7th Fleet. Among three directions listed: “3. USS John McCain needs to be out of sight.” It instructs recipients to “please confirm #3 will be satisfied.”






One recipient forwards the email, pasting only the text of that directive. In another email, potentially from the same official, the instructions are forwarded with the comments:


One of the recipients replies by saying, “This just makes me sad…”
Further emails reference the White House requesting that the ship be obscured. A May 24 email from the 7th Fleet chief of staff cites “the WH request to keep the name not visible” and “that JSM be ‘kept out of sight.’ ”
“We asked for a formal order but non [sic] was forthcoming,” the email states.
The same day, another official runs through the situation, saying, “This direction was passed to” someone in the White House Military Office, “who in turn provided this guidance to” the 7th Fleet. The email also cites a Davids email to LeClair — potentially the April 12 email above — “emphasizing the importance of making sure this happens.”







And for the first time, it references a Navy official who “took additional steps by hanging the … brow banner,” while emphasizing this was “NOT directed” by the 7th Fleet.

While the “brow banner” reference isn’t clear, the Wall Street Journal published a photo of what it called a “tarp” covering the ship’s name. The photo was taken the same day as the email — May 24.
Later on May 24, the 7th Fleet commander, Vice Adm. Phillip G. Sawyer, emails the Pacific Fleet commander, Adm. John C. Aquilino, and again cites the request as coming from the White House Military Office. He says that the “banner” and “paint scaffolding” were used to “ensure JSM name was not visible” from the USS Wasp, the ship on which Trump would appear:


(The “weekend” reference appears to cite another detail reported by the Journal: That “sailors on the ship, who typically wear caps bearing its name, were given the day off during Mr. Trump’s visit.”)






Sawyer recommended “no further actions” and added that “this includes ‘undoing’ anything that has been done (brow banner, paint scaffolding).”
Further emails from May 25 feature military officials trying to account for those actions and again noting that other military officials resisted putting instructions in writing.
The tarp was taken down that day, the Navy confirmed. The Journal reported that a barge later blocked the name but was also moved.

After the controversy exploded, the Navy issued a statement noting that the name of the ship was not obscured during Trump’s visit — but without acknowledging that it had been previously, and deliberately so. Trump seized upon this, tweeting: “The Navy put out a disclaimer on the McCain story. Looks like the story was an exaggeration, or even Fake News — but why not, everything else is!”
Yet again, the fake news was instead coming from inside the Oval Office.

People voted for this twice
 
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We are two years into the next guy, inflation is at historic levels, the market has lost 20% this year, we are paying for a war on the other side of the world, we have unregulated immigration, gas prices are in the way back up, they changed the definition of the word "recession" and the pandemic Joe promised to get under wraps has now been passed to its going to do what it's going to do, we spent a shit ton of money on an infrastructure bill that I continue to ask when will that money make it to the ground (no answer) and the selling point of student loans being forgiven just got another bullshit asterisks.




The last guy was worried about a boat though.



Smh.


"If democrats are so smart how come they lose so.god damn always"



There is your ****ing answer.

This board was so much better when you were having a lack of sleep breakdown and you didn't post.
 
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