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New study shows Lettuce more harmful to the environment than bacon

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I guess Michelle Obama's vegetable garden at the White House wasn't that good of an idea after all.;)

Basically the study shows that producing the foods needed by humans to maximize their dietary health are also the foods that are the most harmful to the environment. It will be interesting to see how the environmental nuts handle this one.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ore-greenhouse-gas-emissions-than-bacon-does/
 
Ummm...how much lettuce does it take to equal the calories in one strip of bacon? There are 4 calories in an ounce of lettuce...152 calories in an ounce of bacon. Their comparison is ridiculous.

Methinks a more honest comparison would be by typical serving size. Bacon wins that GHG output contest by a huge margin.
 
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tarheelbybirth said:
Ummm...how much lettuce does it take to equal the calories in one strip of bacon? There are 4 calories in an ounce of lettuce...152 calories in an ounce of bacon. Their comparison is ridiculous.

Methinks a more honest comparison would be by typical serving size. Bacon wins that GHG output contest by a huge margin.
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How is that a better comparison? You can't live on a normal serving size of lettuce. Caloric equivalents make much more sense.
 
KitingHigh said:
How is that a better comparison? You can't live on a normal serving size of lettuce. Caloric equivalents make much more sense.
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LOL...ok, let's crunch the (obvious) numbers.

According to the research, you need 3620 calories to meet your daily needs and maintain weight. To get that from bacon, you would need to consume about 24 ounces or 1.5 pounds of bacon. Think you could manage that? So how about lettuce? To get the same caloric intake, you would need to eat 905 ounces. That's....ummmm...56.5 POUNDS of lettuce per day. It's an idiotic comparison.

How about trying to compare the output of the lettuce industry as a whole to the hog industry - that would be a lot more honest.
 
Not to mention all of the antibiotics they use on lettuce, and which is creating antibiotic resistant bacterias. Then you have the waste from the lettuce spilling over into the pig farms and causing outbreaks around the country.

I feel like I got this backwards.
 
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tarheelbybirth said:
LOL...ok, let's crunch the (obvious) numbers.

According to the research, you need 3620 calories to meet your daily needs and maintain weight. To get that from bacon, you would need to consume about 24 ounces or 1.5 pounds of bacon. Think you could manage that? So how about lettuce? To get the same caloric intake, you would need to eat 905 ounces. That's....ummmm...56.5 POUNDS of lettuce per day. It's an idiotic comparison.

How about trying to compare the output of the lettuce industry as a whole to the hog industry - that would be a lot more honest.
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I could probably manage to get the bacon down in a day, no way on the lettuce. I'm not a manatee. In either case, not going to be very healthy.
 
73chief said:
I guess Michelle Obama's vegetable garden at the White House wasn't that good of an idea after all.;)

Basically the study shows that producing the foods needed by humans to maximize their dietary health are also the foods that are the most harmful to the environment. It will be interesting to see how the environmental nuts handle this one.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ore-greenhouse-gas-emissions-than-bacon-does/
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It's due to the methane and CO2 expelled during the resulting vegetarian farts from eating too much lettuce.

Bacon farts are sublime.
 
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Mmmmmm bacon, like you might find in a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich ....

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I prefer a nice MLT - mutton, lettuce, and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomatoes are ripe.

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tarheelbybirth said:
LOL...ok, let's crunch the (obvious) numbers.

According to the research, you need 3620 calories to meet your daily needs and maintain weight. To get that from bacon, you would need to consume about 24 ounces or 1.5 pounds of bacon. Think you could manage that? So how about lettuce? To get the same caloric intake, you would need to eat 905 ounces. That's....ummmm...56.5 POUNDS of lettuce per day. It's an idiotic comparison.

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I'm pretty sure that is the point. We're spending money and causing environmental damage for something that has virtually no nutritional value.
 
The Tradition said:
I'm pretty sure that is the point. We're spending money and causing environmental damage for something that has virtually no nutritional value.
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That's an entirely different argument. BTW, the fiber - both soluble and insoluble - in lettuce has value...unless you actually want to be constipated.

Might explain your posts. ;)
 
KitingHigh said:
How is that a better comparison? You can't live on a normal serving size of lettuce. Caloric equivalents make much more sense.
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Why do caloric equivalents make more sense? Bacon's nutritional value is in fat and some protein. Lettuce's nutritional value is mainly in Vitamin A. To get your daily requirements of fat and protein in bacon, you would have to eat around 20 slices it. For Vitamin A in lettuce, you would have to eat 2 cups of it. For the purpose of its nutrition, bacon is way worse on the environment.
 
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I'm pretty sure that is the point. We're spending money and causing environmental damage for something that has virtually no nutritional value.
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If we're just going off of calories, virtually all vegetables have no nutritional value.

But to be fair, vitamins are equally as important, so on that front, bacon has virtually no nutritional value.

This really is an apples to oranges comparison.
 
Huey Grey said:
Why do caloric equivalents make more sense? Bacon's nutritional value is in fat and some protein. Lettuce's nutritional value is mainly in Vitamin A. To get your daily requirements of fat and protein in bacon, you would have to eat around 20 slices it. For Vitamin A in lettuce, you would have to eat 2 cups of it. For the purpose of its nutrition, bacon is way worse on the environment.
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But the pig comes with a liver rich in vitamin A and others. The bib of lettuce doesn't come with a strap full of delicious fat and protein.
 
tarheelbybirth said:
LOL...ok, let's crunch the (obvious) numbers.

According to the research, you need 3620 calories to meet your daily needs and maintain weight. To get that from bacon, you would need to consume about 24 ounces or 1.5 pounds of bacon. Think you could manage that? So how about lettuce? To get the same caloric intake, you would need to eat 905 ounces. That's....ummmm...56.5 POUNDS of lettuce per day. It's an idiotic comparison.

How about trying to compare the output of the lettuce industry as a whole to the hog industry - that would be a lot more honest.
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I guess 73Chief has his answer.
 
Jesus you guys are dumb. This thread is about bacon, not the whole pig. If you weren't trying to excuse the poor nutritional value of bacon when it comes to vitamins, then why did you respond to a post about bacon sucking for vitamins with the claim that parts of the pig are rich in vitamin A?
 
Face it. You guys are just mad that bacon is getting slapped on the wrists for being environmentally worse than many other foods. If you want to keep eating it, keep eating it. But don't pretend that lettuce is worse. That's just beyond ridiculous.
 
Huey Grey said:
Jesus you guys are dumb. This thread is about bacon, not the whole pig. If you weren't trying to excuse the poor nutritional value of bacon when it comes to vitamins, then why did you respond to a post about bacon sucking for vitamins with the claim that parts of the pig are rich in vitamin A?
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The thread is about the impact of producing foods. Not just nutritional viability.

Now if you can explain to me how to produce bacon without first producing a pig, I'm all ears. Otherwise I get to use the whole pig and you can use the whole lettuce.
 
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KitingHigh said:
The thread is about the impact of producing foods. Not just nutritional viability.

Now if you can explain to me how to produce bacon without first producing a pig, I'm all ears. Otherwise I get to use the whole pig and you can use the whole lettuce.
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They aren't counting the environmental impact of the entire pig against just the bacon, you know. It would be pro-rated on a caloric basis. Otherwise, you get the rest of the pig impact-free.

So...no...you don't get to use "the whole pig".
 
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tarheelbybirth said:
They aren't counting the environmental impact of the entire pig against just the bacon, you know. It would be pro-rated on a caloric basis. Otherwise, you get the rest of the pig impact-free.

So...no...you don't get to use "the whole pig".
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Link to where they pro-rated raising the pig?
 
KitingHigh said:
Link to where they pro-rated raising the pig?
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Common sense. If they count the entire pig against the bacon then they would have to count the entire pig against the pork chops and the entire pig against the ham and the entire pig against the brains, etc. etc. etc.

If they play it that way then one pig's footprint is ENORMOUS!!!
 
F lettuce. Go Bacon.

Anyone arguing for lettuce over bacon at any time for any reason is a woman. Not even Caitlyn Jenner. A natural woman.
 
Huey Grey said:
Face it. You guys are just mad that bacon is getting slapped on the wrists for being environmentally worse than many other foods. If you want to keep eating it, keep eating it. But don't pretend that lettuce is worse. That's just beyond ridiculous.
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Shut your whore mouth!
 
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