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Newsom and Whitmer or Raimando Would Crush Trump!

Is Kamala going to move aside quietly? You really think they'll go young and not established? Or do hope that? I was hoping for younger in the Republican primary but it didn't happen. I still hope we can eventually get rid of the 2 party system but it's probably just hope at this point.
She has no power beyond breaking ties in the Senate. Her wishes are irrelevant.
 
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Sam Seder said last night that Morning Joeys commentary would be a big clue about what happens next. He believes Joe Biden and others in the WH take the pulse of things from MJ show. One of his comments was MJ is for Biden what Fox and Friends is for Orange Jesus

Posting this before watching

Joe: We know Joe Biden can govern, but can he run for president in 2024?

Did you see Josh Shapiro? He actually said Biden did not perform as good as he could have. In other words, he threw his hat in ring. I think we are looking at Newsom, Shapiro, Whitmer as top contenders but give nod to later too due to swing states. Biggest challenge is what to do with Harris who a contingent will say deserves it if he steps down….

I am predicting Whitmer-Warnock ticket. Max out the youth and women voter turnout, shore up the African American vote maybe upset at Harris snub, increase chances at GA/MI wins.
 
Yeah OK. You've been defending this obvious senile old man for 3 years and now that he can't win in an election it's "admit your candidate is not best for the job." Get that bs out of here.
He never looked like he did last night. People age fast and he is doing that. He is surrounded by much better people too than your Cheeto Jesus, you hypocrite.
 
Pennsylvania governor on Morning Joeys

Gov. Shapiro's messages to Democrats: Stop worrying and start working

 
He never looked like he did last night. People age fast and he is doing that. He is surrounded by much better people too than your Cheeto Jesus, you hypocrite.
Literally last week you were calling these videos cheap fakes. Thanks for the laugh.
 
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I saw Biden speak in person in 2020. He was a completely different man then. Biden from 2020 would have crushed this Trump. But this isn't the same Biden anymore.
And that’s the thing. Even if he was salvageable for the next 6 months, we’re electing a president for another 4 years.

There’s no chance he can do it, and that’s why he needs to step away now.
 
Did you see Josh Shapiro? He actually said Biden did not perform as good as he could have. In other words, he threw his hat in ring. I think we are looking at Newsom, Shapiro, Whitmer as top contenders but give nod to later too due to swing states. Biggest challenge is what to do with Harris who a contingent will say deserves it if he steps down….

I am predicting Whitmer-Warnock ticket. Max out the youth and women voter turnout, shore up the African American vote maybe upset at Harris snub, increase chances at GA/MI wins.

Whitmer Warnock has been one of my top combinations since last night. Fortunately, there is considerable talent from which to draw. Any of them are far preferable to Orange Jesus
 
Whitmer Warnock has been one of my top combinations since last night. Fortunately, there is considerable talent from which to draw. Any of them are far preferable to Orange Jesus
Heck, even a broken Biden is better than Trump. But we need a winning team that's good on the important issues. That seems to be Newsom more than any others who have been mentioned.

Trump will blame him for the California fires, and the MAGAs will eat it up. But there may still be enough sane Americans to avert the looming Trump disaster.
 
Heck, even a broken Biden is better than Trump. But we need a winning team that's good on the important issues. That seems to be Newsom more than any others who have been mentioned.

Trump will blame him for the California fires, and the MAGAs will eat it up. But there may still be enough sane Americans to avert the looming Trump disaster.
What issues are the dems good on? Serious question

Economy has sucked
Foreign wars / Ukraine
Hamas
More taxes
Open Border

All of these are giant losers for the left.
 
Heck, even a broken Biden is better than Trump. But we need a winning team that's good on the important issues. That seems to be Newsom more than any others who have been mentioned.

Trump will blame him for the California fires, and the MAGAs will eat it up. But there may still be enough sane Americans to avert the looming Trump disaster.
Newsom is too california for swing state voters. That is a horrible choice if you care about beating Trump.
 
Whitmer Warnock has been one of my top combinations since last night. Fortunately, there is considerable talent from which to draw. Any of them are far preferable to Orange Jesus
We are lucky that there are a number of choices and combinations.
 
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'Approaching panic': Joy Reid reports on Democratic response to Biden debate performance

 
We’re also lucky that someone in the WH orchestrated this early debate and that last night’s train wreck happened in June and not in September or October.
Perhaps on purpose to sandbag Biden and force him to drop out?

Love that theory I read earlier today on Twitter.
 
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You mean Dems see someone who shouldn't run for re-election & might so something about it? You prefer swearing allegiance to someone grossly incompetent like the GOP has done?
You got all of this just last night? Hand in voting ID, whoops not needed as racist.
 
We’re also lucky that someone in the WH orchestrated this early debate and that last night’s train wreck happened in June and not in September or October.

Perhaps this was seen as the only way to force Joe out,... His team certainly did him no favor by setting this up..
 
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She has no power beyond breaking ties in the Senate. Her wishes are irrelevant.
But what about all the DEI Blacks Women? What message does it send to the party and them if you claim to be all about those things then jump/dump for Ol Whitey? Optically not the best move but DemoKlans will always show true colors
 
Perhaps this was seen as the only way to force Joe out,... His team certainly did him no favor by setting this up..

Or maybe they did Joe and all of us who don’t want to live in a fascist dictatorship a favor. This isn’t a whole lot different than the people on Meatball Ron’s campaign who continually kneecapped him because deep down they knew deep down that he and his candidacy cannot go forward.
 
F off lady, I like Joe but it’s over. Spare us this spin

Biden campaign: He got off to a rough start, but he picked up as the debate went on

 
Whitmer Warnock has been one of my top combinations since last night. Fortunately, there is considerable talent from which to draw. Any of them are far preferable to Orange Jesus
That would be an OK ticket. Several other OK tickets.

. . . BUT . . .

The Dems have an opportunity to craft an EXCITING ticket.

They could, but they won't.

I hope they prove me wrong
 
Single Porn Star “allegedly/false” or a married woman.

This the decency you pushing now DemoKlans?

 
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Far better than Trump.
 
Sagar makes a good point that no one was paying attention to anything TRUMP said

Will Obama PULL PLUG On Biden?

 
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Almost like we have our country’s best interests in mind and we aren’t in a cult worshipping a rapist felon.
It’s weird how they constantly project their bullshit onto us. Democrats want what’s best for the country. Republicans unknowingly want what’s best for Trump and the wealthy. Not themselves. If Trump wins, he won’t be lowering costs on anything or helping the middle class at all. Just like the first time.
 
So if Biden steps aside who do you think would have the best chance of beating Trump? Kamala?
I didn’t say that. I don’t want her to run because people like you won’t vote for her even though there isn’t a valid reason not to. I think Newsom/Whitmer would kick Trump’s ass.

I am on the record here saying the Democrats have screwed up election strategy for years. Hillary should have been the candidate in 2008 with Obama as her VP. Grooming him for the job. It made sense. He’d be president today if the DNC had any damn foresight. I agree that the plan should have been Biden as a one term guy with his VP as his replacement. Unfortunately they picked Kamala who was disliked by people like yourself on day 1. It doesn’t make our populace smart.
 
I didn’t say that. I don’t want her to run because people like you won’t vote for her even though there isn’t a valid reason not to. I think Newsom/Whitmer would kick Trump’s ass.

I am on the record here saying the Democrats have screwed up election strategy for years. Hillary should have been the candidate in 2008 with Obama as her VP. Grooming him for the job. It made sense. He’d be president today if the DNC had any damn foresight. I agree that the plan should have been Biden as a one term guy with his VP as his replacement. Unfortunately they picked Kamala who was disliked by people like yourself on day 1. It doesn’t make our populace smart.
Biden will not step aside; you're stuck with him come November.
 
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