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I agree with you that polls are meaningless this early. But I don't see her having the ability to overcome these initial deficits. Money, fame, and personality are what Rs crave these days. I don't see her with much of any of these traits.Way early....Obama was a long shot in 2007.
This polling was from June 2007....further along in the process than now.
Lets see where she is in June...
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton established her lead among the Democratic candidates early in the process. Since January there have been two occasions when Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who has been in second place during most of 2007, came within striking distance of Clinton in Gallup Polls, but she has otherwise maintained her lead, which has ranged from 9 to 19 percentage points. In Gallup's latest poll, conducted June 11-14, 2007, Clinton leads Obama by 11 points among Democrats (33% to 21%).
Where the Election Stands: June 2007
With the 2008 presidential race unofficially kicking off around January of this year, voters have now experienced six full months of campaigning. This Gallup Poll review of the election looks at how the early frontrunners for each party's nomination are faring and how the battles for second...news.gallup.com
Liz Cheney could have been POTUS contender in a normal GOP.Before the Trump era, I thought she would be the first female POTUS because the first female will have to be a Republican — too many R’s and I’s think of Hillary when it comes to liberal women to win a general election.
But there’s no way she’ll win the nomination here. She’s running to be Trump’s VP which is pretty gross. Used to think pretty highly of her but like every other R, bent over for Trump when he demanded.
She has a tough hill to climb...no argument.I agree with you that polls are meaningless this early. But I don't see her having the ability to overcome these initial deficits. Money, fame, and personality are what Rs crave these days. I don't see her with much of any of these traits.
We will revisit this thread in a few years unless my jet setting lifestyle has killed me by then haha.
She's a coward who won't stand up for her beliefs. Pick someone that will.She has been my preferred candidate for two years now. I think she wins the nomination and becomes the next POTUS.
She is very smart, articulate, and a great communicator. Also very tough. She will be a great president.
I'll be watching to see how hard - if at all - she goes after Trump or DeSantis. If she is respectful toward either, that might mean she's angling for a VP spot with them.I think she's more of a threat to take the WH in 2024 than DeSantis. We'll see...
It'll be harder for the D's to vilify her than Ron. Much harder...
I could see he being Ron's VP......not Trumps.I'll be watching to see how hard - if at all - she goes after Trump or DeSantis. If she is respectful toward either, that might mean she's angling for a VP spot with them.
That's not to say she doesn't really want to be prez, but if she's realistic, she shouldn't burn bridges to second spot on the ticket. After all, she's young enough to run for prez after serving as VP.
Another thought is that Trump can only serve 1 term. So being his VP offers a quicker path to the WH.
Thank you for bringing some common sense on this haha. No one has any idea who will get the nomination because it is WAY too early. There will be some candidates that are polling well that fall back and those who aren’t polling well move up.Way early....Obama was a long shot in 2007.
This polling was from June 2007....further along in the process than now.
Lets see where she is in June...
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton established her lead among the Democratic candidates early in the process. Since January there have been two occasions when Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who has been in second place during most of 2007, came within striking distance of Clinton in Gallup Polls, but she has otherwise maintained her lead, which has ranged from 9 to 19 percentage points. In Gallup's latest poll, conducted June 11-14, 2007, Clinton leads Obama by 11 points among Democrats (33% to 21%).
Where the Election Stands: June 2007
With the 2008 presidential race unofficially kicking off around January of this year, voters have now experienced six full months of campaigning. This Gallup Poll review of the election looks at how the early frontrunners for each party's nomination are faring and how the battles for second...news.gallup.com
She has already started framing her message as we need younger leaders and a different generation to move the party forward FWIWI eagerly await the moment where she has the courage to say something negative about Turd.
That's not happening.
If Lake had won, she'd definitely be on the fast track. But Trump likes winners.I could see he being Ron's VP......not Trumps.
Trump will pick Lake or MTG or Santos or another whack job....
She's in her 50s. Not exactly a young person.She has already started framing her message as we need younger leaders and a different generation to move the party forward FWIW
Well compared to Trump and Biden and Mitch and Pelosi ....She's in her 50s. Not exactly a young person.
All he has to do is call her Nimrata. Having a real name that is foreign and sounds like an insult on it's own will be enough for the right wing bigot baseWhy would us Dems need to vilify her? Trump is already working on his zingers, put downs, and ethnic slurs. Ron will just be slightly more clever in his than Trump.
I liked and would have voted for Amy K. Not once did I think of Hillary.Before the Trump era, I thought she would be the first female POTUS because the first female will have to be a Republican — too many R’s and I’s think of Hillary when it comes to liberal women to win a general election.
But there’s no way she’ll win the nomination here. She’s running to be Trump’s VP which is pretty gross. Used to think pretty highly of her but like every other R, bent over for Trump when he demanded.
She was on the Trump train. Either she's not very smart, or she has no moral compass. (Could be both.) Either of those should be disqualifying.She has been my preferred candidate for two years now. I think she wins the nomination and becomes the next POTUS.
She is very smart, articulate, and a great communicator. Also very tough. She will be a great president.
Which would be nice.My question is why?
Seriously look at your party, look at the polling on the matter. You are behind by like 40 points.
If it's not Trump it will be Desantis. No one else even comes close and the only way it's not one of those two is if both of their planes collide with one another in mid air.
She is 51 which is 30 years younger then the current overlordsShe's in her 50s. Not exactly a young person.
She's in her 50s. Not exactly a young person.
She's a spring chicken comparativelyIn presidential terms especially compared to what we have now she's pretty young.
She's a spring chicken comparatively
The only hope I have is that DeSantis and Trump fight with each other like crazy in the primaries and split the republican crazy vote allowing a more moderate to appear by themselves and take it from them both. I don't see either Trump or DeSantis conceding to stop it. So maybe it could happen. I don't see it happening, but it could. I may keep my Republican registration just so I can throw one more vote for someone other than those two in Florida. It likely won't help at all, but who knows.My question is why?
Seriously look at your party, look at the polling on the matter. You are behind by like 40 points.
If it's not Trump it will be Desantis. No one else even comes close and the only way it's not one of those two is if both of their planes collide with one another in mid air.
The only hope I have is that DeSantis and Trump fight with each other like crazy in the primaries and split the republican crazy vote allowing a more moderate to appear by themselves and take it from them both. I don't see either Trump or DeSantis conceding to stop it. So maybe it could happen. I don't see it happening, but it could. I may keep my Republican registration just so I can throw one more vote for someone other than those two in Florida. It likely won't help at all, but who knows.