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No, Biden didn’t take FEMA relief money to use on migrants — but Trump did

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“The Harris-Biden administration says they don’t have any money [for hurricane relief]. … They spent it all on illegal migrants. … They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them.”


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— Former president Donald Trump, remarks at a campaign rally in Saginaw, Mich., Oct. 3
Trump has been trying to weaponize the Hurricane Helene relief efforts, accusing the Biden administration of failing to provide adequate assistance. As part of his critique, he claims that there is no money available for hurricane relief because it was spent already to handle the surge of migrants at the southern border.

“They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank,” Trump charged, referring to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, adding in the additional falsehood that Vice President Kamala Harris wants illegal immigrants to vote for her. As we have explained many times before, this would be against the law and there is no evidence to support this claim.


Trump’s claims have been echoed by his supporters, such as billionaire Elon Musk. But Trump is completely wrong.

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Even though Trump was once president, he still appears to have little clue about the appropriations process. What’s even richer is that when he was president, he did exactly what he claims Biden did — take money from FEMA’s disaster fund to fund migrant programs at the southern border.

The Facts​

FEMA is part of the Department of Homeland Security. On Wednesday, DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told reporters: “We are meeting the immediate needs with the money that we have. We are expecting another hurricane hitting. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season.”

He emphasized there was plenty of money to deal with the current disaster. “We are meeting the moment,” he said, adding: “We have the immediate needs right now. On a continuing resolution, we have funds, but that is not a stable source of supply, if you will.”


Congress, as part of a short-term spending bill, recently provided $20 billion to the FEMA disaster relief fund. But Mayorkas noted: “That doesn’t speak about the future and the fact, as I mentioned earlier, that these extreme weather events are increasing in frequency and severity, and we have to be funded for the sake of the American people. This is not a political issue.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/weat...ge/?itid=mc_magnet-helene_inline_collection_9

In other words, Trump falsely claimed that there is no money left for Hurricane Helene survivors. That’s the opposite of what Mayorkas said.

“FEMA has what it needs for immediate response and recovery efforts,” FEMA spokeswoman Jaclyn Rothenberg said on X. “As FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell has said, she has the full authority to spend against the President’s budget, but we’re not out of hurricane season yet so we need to keep a close eye on it. We may need to go back into immediate needs funding and we will be watching it closely.”


So how does Trump link this to migrants? A Trump campaign spokesman pointed to FEMA’s Shelter and Services Program, which gives grants to local governments and nonprofits to take care of undocumented immigrants. Congress boosted the budget from $360 million in fiscal year 2023 to $650 million in fiscal year 2024. The program’s 2023 annual report says it provides shelter, such as hotel/motel services, food and transportation, including plane tickets up to $700 a person.
As we said, Congress appropriated this money, just as it did the disaster fund. There’s no evidence that any money from the disaster fund was used to help migrants.

“These claims are completely false,” DHS said in a statement Thursday night. “As Secretary Mayorkas said, FEMA has the necessary resources to meet the immediate needs associated with Hurricane Helene and other disasters. The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is a completely separate, appropriated grant program that was authorized and funded by Congress and is not associated in any way with FEMA’s disaster-related authorities or funding streams.”

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Trump has a habit of assuming other politicians act in the same way as he would. So we wondered why he would accuse Biden of raiding the FEMA disaster fund to handle undocumented migrants.
It turns out that’s because he did this! In 2019, the Trump administration, in the middle of hurricane season, told Congress that it was taking $271 million from DHS programs, including $155 million from the disaster fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum seekers who have been forced to wait in Mexico. “The U.S. is facing a security and humanitarian crisis on the Southern border,” the administration said in its notice that it was redirecting the funds.

The monthly reports issued by the FEMA disaster fund show $38 million was plucked and given to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in August that year — just before the prime storm period of September and October.


The Trump campaign did not respond to questions about Trump’s actions in 2019.

The Pinocchio Test​

Trump falsely claims FEMA has run out of disaster money — and then falsely says that’s because money instead was spent on migrants. There is no evidence the Biden administration spent FEMA disaster money on migrants. Rather, that’s what Trump did.
He earns Four Pinocchios.

Four Pinocchios​


 
I’ll believe the people they interview who live in the hurricane zone who haven’t seen FEMA or other U.S. disaster relief agencies. There is a mis-management problem at the highest levels of FEMA.

Dude, it took 3 fvcking days for the national guard to get into Gulf Breeze after Hurricane Ivan.....I was already back down at FSU 2 months later before my sister met a FEMA adjuster at my house. I guess W was holding up my relief because I had voted for Gore.

Holy fvck you can't make this shit up
 
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Thread subject, lie about Biden / Harris using funds to something, something immigrants. Just for laughs I clicked on see ignored content, and was immediately validated in my choices here.
You have to admire the “quiet competence” of Mayorkas. Saying he’s running out of $$$ when congress just passed $20B in emergency relief funding.

Background: Mayorkas’ comments came a week after the passage of a continuing resolution providing roughly $20 billion for FEMA’s Disaster Relief Fund (DRF), which is used to fund the response to emergencies like Hurricane Helene. The day prior to Mayorkas’ comments, FEMA published an advisory stating that the infusion of funds from the continuing resolution allowed it to lift restrictions on funding thousands of projects across the country.

What a dolt. Doesn’t even know what’s going on in his own department.

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/10/...trations-priorities-are-completely-backwards/
 
You have to admire the “quiet competence” of Mayorkas. Saying he’s running out of $$$ when congress just passed $20B in emergency relief funding.

Background: Mayorkas’ comments came a week after the passage of a continuing resolution providing roughly $20 billion for FEMA’s Disaster Relief Fund (DRF), which is used to fund the response to emergencies like Hurricane Helene. The day prior to Mayorkas’ comments, FEMA published an advisory stating that the infusion of funds from the continuing resolution allowed it to lift restrictions on funding thousands of projects across the country.

What a dolt. Doesn’t even know what’s going on in his own department.

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/10/...trations-priorities-are-completely-backwards/
Between this, the border crisis and the near assassination of Donald trump it really does seem like mayorkas is useless at every aspect of his job
 
“The Harris-Biden administration says they don’t have any money [for hurricane relief]. … They spent it all on illegal migrants. … They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them.”


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— Former president Donald Trump, remarks at a campaign rally in Saginaw, Mich., Oct. 3
Trump has been trying to weaponize the Hurricane Helene relief efforts, accusing the Biden administration of failing to provide adequate assistance. As part of his critique, he claims that there is no money available for hurricane relief because it was spent already to handle the surge of migrants at the southern border.

“They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank,” Trump charged, referring to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, adding in the additional falsehood that Vice President Kamala Harris wants illegal immigrants to vote for her. As we have explained many times before, this would be against the law and there is no evidence to support this claim.


Trump’s claims have been echoed by his supporters, such as billionaire Elon Musk. But Trump is completely wrong.

Follow Fact-checking politicians
Even though Trump was once president, he still appears to have little clue about the appropriations process. What’s even richer is that when he was president, he did exactly what he claims Biden did — take money from FEMA’s disaster fund to fund migrant programs at the southern border.

The Facts​

FEMA is part of the Department of Homeland Security. On Wednesday, DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told reporters: “We are meeting the immediate needs with the money that we have. We are expecting another hurricane hitting. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season.”

He emphasized there was plenty of money to deal with the current disaster. “We are meeting the moment,” he said, adding: “We have the immediate needs right now. On a continuing resolution, we have funds, but that is not a stable source of supply, if you will.”


Congress, as part of a short-term spending bill, recently provided $20 billion to the FEMA disaster relief fund. But Mayorkas noted: “That doesn’t speak about the future and the fact, as I mentioned earlier, that these extreme weather events are increasing in frequency and severity, and we have to be funded for the sake of the American people. This is not a political issue.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/weat...ge/?itid=mc_magnet-helene_inline_collection_9

In other words, Trump falsely claimed that there is no money left for Hurricane Helene survivors. That’s the opposite of what Mayorkas said.

“FEMA has what it needs for immediate response and recovery efforts,” FEMA spokeswoman Jaclyn Rothenberg said on X. “As FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell has said, she has the full authority to spend against the President’s budget, but we’re not out of hurricane season yet so we need to keep a close eye on it. We may need to go back into immediate needs funding and we will be watching it closely.”


So how does Trump link this to migrants? A Trump campaign spokesman pointed to FEMA’s Shelter and Services Program, which gives grants to local governments and nonprofits to take care of undocumented immigrants. Congress boosted the budget from $360 million in fiscal year 2023 to $650 million in fiscal year 2024. The program’s 2023 annual report says it provides shelter, such as hotel/motel services, food and transportation, including plane tickets up to $700 a person.
As we said, Congress appropriated this money, just as it did the disaster fund. There’s no evidence that any money from the disaster fund was used to help migrants.

“These claims are completely false,” DHS said in a statement Thursday night. “As Secretary Mayorkas said, FEMA has the necessary resources to meet the immediate needs associated with Hurricane Helene and other disasters. The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is a completely separate, appropriated grant program that was authorized and funded by Congress and is not associated in any way with FEMA’s disaster-related authorities or funding streams.”

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Trump has a habit of assuming other politicians act in the same way as he would. So we wondered why he would accuse Biden of raiding the FEMA disaster fund to handle undocumented migrants.
It turns out that’s because he did this! In 2019, the Trump administration, in the middle of hurricane season, told Congress that it was taking $271 million from DHS programs, including $155 million from the disaster fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum seekers who have been forced to wait in Mexico. “The U.S. is facing a security and humanitarian crisis on the Southern border,” the administration said in its notice that it was redirecting the funds.

The monthly reports issued by the FEMA disaster fund show $38 million was plucked and given to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in August that year — just before the prime storm period of September and October.


The Trump campaign did not respond to questions about Trump’s actions in 2019.

The Pinocchio Test​

Trump falsely claims FEMA has run out of disaster money — and then falsely says that’s because money instead was spent on migrants. There is no evidence the Biden administration spent FEMA disaster money on migrants. Rather, that’s what Trump did.
He earns Four Pinocchios.

Four Pinocchios​


PSST: Just so you know, Trump hasn't been President for 4 years.
 
You have to admire the “quiet competence” of Mayorkas. Saying he’s running out of $$$ when congress just passed $20B in emergency relief funding.

Background: Mayorkas’ comments came a week after the passage of a continuing resolution providing roughly $20 billion for FEMA’s Disaster Relief Fund (DRF), which is used to fund the response to emergencies like Hurricane Helene. The day prior to Mayorkas’ comments, FEMA published an advisory stating that the infusion of funds from the continuing resolution allowed it to lift restrictions on funding thousands of projects across the country.

What a dolt. Doesn’t even know what’s going on in his own department.

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/10/...trations-priorities-are-completely-backwards/
What is it that you think this means given the subject of the thread?
Look at the one person who liked your post, and then carefully answer, if you feel it wise.
 
What is it that you think this means given the subject of the thread?
Look at the one person who liked your post, and then carefully answer, if you feel it wise.
I’m just admiring the “quiet competence” of the Biden administration.
 
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Do you think all of FEMA’s budget is in just one bucket?
I don't know that Fema could actually walk in and buy a bucket with cash right now.

Credit, maybe.


There is a reason we can pay these huge sums of money, on paper, and not actually hand money out( Hawaii, NC, GA), and that reason is the same one someone who makes 175k a year can retire with a net worth of 200 million.
 
Dude, it took 3 fvcking days for the national guard to get into Gulf Breeze after Hurricane Ivan.....I was already back down at FSU 2 months later before my sister met a FEMA adjuster at my house. I guess W was holding up my relief because I had voted for Gore.

Holy fvck you can't make this shit up
And getting to Gulf Breze was a cakewalk compared to what it will take to reach some of the more isolated areas in the mountains. There are communities up there with one road in and out...except now there's no road at all. They're moving supplies with mules and donkeys in some places. Apocalyptic barely describes it and there could be an ultimate death toll that eclipses Katrina.

This is what rescue/relief efforts are facing.
 
Good to know you felt democrats were the lowest common denominator in 2020. I completely agree.

Curious why a couple of you clown boys found this post soooooo funny, but have absolutely nothing to counter with. ****ing clowns.


It might be by your use of the phrase "lowest common denominator", which indicates you don't know what it means or the context to use it. Which, similar to WOB's, can be funny. Hope that helps!
 
It might be by your use of the phrase "lowest common denominator", which indicates you don't know what it means or the context to use it. Which, similar to WOB's, can be funny. Hope that helps!

Huh. I’m not the one that used it first. Just copying op. Maybe you should learn to read.
 
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Oh, good excuse for your using a phrase incorrectly: I was just copying!

What's next from the angry luver? An accusation that I can't read! Did you copy that from a 2nd grader?
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Nothing. Let me know when you can read. And I’m the angry one for pointing out your lack of reading comprehension? Lol.
 
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Nothing. Let me know when you can read. And I’m the angry one for pointing out your lack of reading comprehension? Lol.

Point out the lack of reading comprehension. And no, you appear angry for posts like this one. You know where you are trying to find out why people are laughing at your posts, and you have to censor yourself to avoid the profanity filter. Lol.

Curious why a couple of you clown boys found this post soooooo funny, but have absolutely nothing to counter with. ****ing clowns.
 
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Yeah…explain it.

Oh for crying out loud. Op I quoted said he considers people using a crisis as a political football are the lowest common denominator. I agreed and reminded him of democrats doing the same in 2020 with Covid. It really should not have been that difficult to understand. But let me guess , it was different when dems did it. Save it.
 
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Nice unbiased source 😂😂😂😂
Nobody said that it was illegal, you communists are playing a word game. It was just immoral and wrong.
Your guy made the claim FEMA is stealing from disaster relief to send to illegals. Sound like you bought it hook, line and sinker and don’t want to educate yourself.

Typical MAGA.
 
Your guy made the claim FEMA is stealing from disaster relief to send to illegals. Sound like you bought it hook, line and sinker and don’t want to educate yourself.

Typical MAGA.
Do you think it is moral to spend all of the funds on illegals leaving people in Appalachia to starve and drowned? I get the reason, future election outcomes.
 
Oh for crying out loud. Op I quoted said he considers people using a crisis as a political football are the lowest common denominator. I agreed and reminded him of democrats doing the same in 2020 with Covid. It really should not have been that difficult to understand. But let me guess , it was different when dems did it. Save it.
Nothing political about 2020, just incompetence.
 
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