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No casino in Cedar Rapids, again.

I just heard there was a vote today. Was this a final vote where a casino would have happened if approved or was this some preliminary vote?
 
Meh, if CR got one I wouldn't have used it anyway. Although, I have heard many have good restaurants. Corbett had said earlier this summer that he doubted any of the 3 options would pass, so I'm not surprised.

My only beef with the licensing board voting against CR is the concept of 'cannibalization' from other casinos. That seems like a disingenuous reason in a nation that supports capitalism.
 
Meh, if CR got one I wouldn't have used it anyway. Although, I have heard many have good restaurants. Corbett had said earlier this summer that he doubted any of the 3 options would pass, so I'm not surprised.

My only beef with the licensing board voting against CR is the concept of 'cannibalization' from other casinos. That seems like a disingenuous reason in a nation that supports capitalism.
The only reason they allowed casinos in Iowa in the first place was an attraction to draw out of state money. It never had anything to do with capitalism. Once the state saw how many out of state people visited Tama Casino, they wanted that tax revenue.
 
Meh, if CR got one I wouldn't have used it anyway. Although, I have heard many have good restaurants. Corbett had said earlier this summer that he doubted any of the 3 options would pass, so I'm not surprised.

My only beef with the licensing board voting against CR is the concept of 'cannibalization' from other casinos. That seems like a disingenuous reason in a nation that supports capitalism.

You have to take it into account, though, when other casinos are told new licenses are not going to be granted that will result in cannibalization.
 
I believe this is what you meant to say.

not if you know what you are doing.

But, by in cedar rapids with all them gangs and disease from foul smelling quaker oats plants you can catch the dead. Like Omaha.
 
They should have voted for a pointless train that needs millions in taxpayer funds to stay afloat if they wanted Torb’s support.
 
I think it sucks somw areas benefit greatly from a casino and others are denied.

I think all the kids in Lake Mills school district get a huge scholarship when they graduate and a gift card every year for school supplies,

In 2009 every graduating senior in Worth County That was there for junior and senior years got a little over $6000 in scholarships.

IMO all the casino profits should be gathered up and each citizen of Iowa should get a check.

The state shouldn’t play God unless it is fair.
 
Suck it, "second city".

Cedar Rapids beats QC again. Have fun with these hotties...

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not if you know what you are doing.

But, by in cedar rapids with all them gangs and disease from foul smelling quaker oats plants you can catch the dead. Like Omaha.
Quaker doesn't smell bad, unless you have something against oatmeal.

It's ADM that smells bad.

Funny you mention gangs. The local police for some reason absolutely refuse to call them gangs. They're 'associations' or some such nonsense.

Chicago transplants have certainly made certain areas in CR worse. I will not disagree with that. However, it's still by and large a decent small city. I have no qualms living there.
 
There was a Wild Rose proposal? How weird, Kirke was so adamant that Iowa was over-saturated and other (see: his) Casinos would be cannibalized. Surely the situation changed since the last time he was torpedoing the proposals.
 
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Suck it, "second city".
I wonder how many casinos Iowa can make profitable. For Cedar Rapids: Meskawki to the West, Isle of Capri to the Northwest, Riverside to the South. Not to mention the new one in Davenport and Prairie Meadows in Des Moines. Lots of gambling options out there. How many degenerates are there to flush their income and savings down the toilet?
 
Quaker doesn't smell bad, unless you have something against oatmeal.

It's ADM that smells bad.

Funny you mention gangs. The local police for some reason absolutely refuse to call them gangs. They're 'associations' or some such nonsense.

Chicago transplants have certainly made certain areas in CR worse. I will not disagree with that. However, it's still by and large a decent small city. I have no qualms living there.


Whatever Kenny
 
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Meh is right. Back in the day CR was the first choice for a Paramutual Horse Track which they turned down. Then when the idea to have legalized gambling came along, CR was given a chance to have one of the first gaming facilities. They turned that down as well. So, screw CR (Iowa City had a chance for a casino as well after CR turned it down).
 
Meh is right. Back in the day CR was the first choice for a Paramutual Horse Track which they turned down. Then when the idea to have legalized gambling came along, CR was given a chance to have one of the first gaming facilities. They turned that down as well. So, screw CR (Iowa City had a chance for a casino as well after CR turned it down).

THIS! It makes me laugh every time those dumbasses get shot down now.

Before Riverside Casino went in, they wanted to put it in CR. The good folks of CR said "Oh nooooo, we're a family city with morals and values and we don't want that casino bringing in whores and degenerate gambers"

Then they saw the money train come to Riverside and were like now we want a casino. Have no sympathy for them getting denied.
 
THIS! It makes me laugh every time those dumbasses get shot down now.

Before Riverside Casino went in, they wanted to put it in CR. The good folks of CR said "Oh nooooo, we're a family city with morals and values and we don't want that casino bringing in whores and degenerate gambers"

Then they saw the money train come to Riverside and were like now we want a casino. Have no sympathy for them getting denied.
I live in CR and while totally ambivalent about the prospect of a casino, those who voted against it in the first place but now want it (e.g., many of our local leaders) have to reap what they sowed.
 
Davenport had a river boat casino on the Mississippi
River. That license is now being used at the new
land-based Casino in Davenport. off Interstate 80.
There might be some tourists who get off the highway
to gamble there, however, there must be plenty of
"poor" retirees in Davenport who go there.
 
THIS! It makes me laugh every time those dumbasses get shot down now.

Before Riverside Casino went in, they wanted to put it in CR. The good folks of CR said "Oh nooooo, we're a family city with morals and values and we don't want that casino bringing in whores and degenerate gambers"

Then they saw the money train come to Riverside and were like now we want a casino. Have no sympathy for them getting denied.
I will say, though, that while the money it gives to non-profits is good, and it does help fill city coffers, it also creates a TON of problems with bankruptcy, addiction and embezzlement.
 
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I think it sucks somw areas benefit greatly from a casino and others are denied.

I think all the kids in Lake Mills school district get a huge scholarship when they graduate and a gift card every year for school supplies,

In 2009 every graduating senior in Worth County That was there for junior and senior years got a little over $6000 in scholarships.

IMO all the casino profits should be gathered up and each citizen of Iowa should get a check.

The state shouldn’t play God unless it is fair.
I agree. The other interesting tidbit of the Diamond Jo Worth was that Queer, err, Clear, Lake was the preferred choice for the site and the arrogant residents said it would hurt the city's reputation. Thus, it ended up west of Northwood, and the rest is history. If Lake residents were to give an honest answer, I bet the view would be different now. It's been an absolute god send for Worth County.
 
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CR needs to save their money for that Toyota plant Iowa is gonna get but we cant talk about yet! They don't need no nasty assed casino!
Maybe a whorehouse or two...that just might tip the scales w/ Toyota into Iowa's favor! (You know I have seen movies where those Jap execs like blond white girls and will p[ay good money for them.)
 
Meh, if CR got one I wouldn't have used it anyway. Although, I have heard many have good restaurants. Corbett had said earlier this summer that he doubted any of the 3 options would pass, so I'm not surprised.

My only beef with the licensing board voting against CR is the concept of 'cannibalization' from other casinos. That seems like a disingenuous reason in a nation that supports capitalism.
Yeah but not where casinos are concerned. Most other states with casinos are as protective of the existing casinos as Iowa is. The only exceptions are Nevada and New Jersey. States like Iowa are still slightly embarrassed about licensing a sinful activity and feel a little better if they put weird restrictions in place like they do with alcohol.
 
I don't know all the details, but Carter Lake, Iowa (on Omaha side of the Missouri River next to the Airport) got approved for a casino last night I believe. I guess it is technically Native American property. Pretty funny since Nebraska Legislation has denied multiple casino requests over the years. Now the casino still goes in and the state of Iowa should get the tax benefits. Hilarious.
 
I will say, though, that while the money it gives to non-profits is good, and it does help fill city coffers, it also creates a TON of problems with bankruptcy, addiction and embezzlement.

I would be interested to see comparison numbers on bankruptcy, addiction, and embezzlement around the Riverside area before and after the casino's arrival.

I can't say I think there are a TON of problems with it. You certainly don't hear about it if there are...

That tends to be the war cry of the casino naysayers than an actual measurable result of their introduction.
 
I would be interested to see comparison numbers on bankruptcy, addiction, and embezzlement around the Riverside area before and after the casino's arrival.

I can't say I think there are a TON of problems with it. You certainly don't hear about it if there are...

That tends to be the war cry of the casino naysayers than an actual measurable result of their introduction.
All I know is the QC area has a ton of embezzlement cases from public and private companies alike, and 9 times out of 10, it seems to come back to gambling addiction.
 
There was a Wild Rose proposal? How weird, Kirke was so adamant that Iowa was over-saturated and other (see: his) Casinos would be cannibalized. Surely the situation changed since the last time he was torpedoing the proposals.
Well sure, but if there is a chance that there will be a little more saturation, Gary wants to be the one doing it. His closest casino is in Clinton and presumably would not be "cannibalized" a whole lot by a casino in CR. Pretty sure Gary wouldn't mind putting another casino within a couple hundred feet of one of his as long as he owns the second casino. They're money machines.

I haven't bothered to follow all the numbers but did read that the analyses showed that a Cedar Rapids casino would have produced somewhere between $23 million and $47 million in "new" money. That indicates a fair number of degenerate gamblers in the Cedar Rapids area are not currently being served by existing casinos. In a truly capitalist society folks would be rushing in to fill the void. BUT, in Iowa, casinos are NOT a capitalist venture. The fix is in. Cedar Rapids gamblers are still required to drive 40 or 50 miles to the closest casino - Riverside or Tama. The Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission sees to it. I tried to find out what they're paid but it seems incredibly difficult to find that information.
 
I will say, though, that while the money it gives to non-profits is good, and it does help fill city coffers, it also creates a TON of problems with bankruptcy, addiction and embezzlement.

Gambling would cut into my booze funding. Hence I do not gamble.
 
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