No thread on the awesome Supreme Court decision today?
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Because certainly we must bow down to our corporate overlords. Forced arbitration is a stain on the rights of a person to have due process.
Good job working middle class supporting Trump.
As long as your guns aren’t in jeopardy.
As long as your guns aren’t in jeopardy.
There’s nothing “forced” about it. If you don’t want to sign an arbitration agreement, work for an employer that doesn’t require one.
It's great if you want to support companies intentionally underpaying their employees.
Salaries are dictated by supply and demand. Unions distort this. That’s a problem. A big problem.
And big corporate money distorts the fairness of corporate arbitration, which only exists for the benefit of the corporation.
This loses touch with the very important fact that many of the potential employees that this will effect have no idea to ask about the arbitration clause.
You right. We need to put the breaks on the last 25 years of stagnant wage growth.
It particularly affects people that are uneducated and speak English as a second language. We know, you don’t care.
Trad, you’re a fvcking moron.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/21/pf/applenews-consumer-prices/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/21/pf/applenews-consumer-prices/index.html
They were owed overtime pay. The company settled a similar case for about 5million dollars.
How about instead we stop taking away individual freedoms and giving them to corporations? I get it, you’re HR. Doesn’t mean you have to literally treat humans just as resources. Disposable resources, at that.
Wow, sad that someone is actually excited about this. Yeah, the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, with one stolen seat voting with the majority, decides that companies can enforce arbitration clauses.
Yeah, unequal bargaining power, yeah depriving middle class workers of their rights to seek judicial redress.
Maybe if we elect more politicians who have been bought off with Citizens United money, we can give companies more tax breaks and increased constitutional protections. We may even be able to eliminate every other available legal protection for workers.
Cheering for companies - I will never understand that.
Yeah, unequal bargaining power, yeah depriving middle class workers of their rights to seek judicial redress.
Maybe if we elect more politicians who have been bought off with Citizens United money, we can give companies more tax breaks and increased constitutional protections. We may even be able to eliminate every other available legal protection for workers.
Cheering for companies - I will never understand that.
If they didn't decide m1 vs m2
Then who the F cares?!
Then who the F cares?!
No, it's not. This is why unions would have bankrupted Detroit several times had the government not bailed them out.
Me neither. It is kind of like being a Yankee fan in the early mid 1950's....
I’ve been thinking about this - trad isn’t the worst poster on this board, but I’m pretty sure he’s the worst human being.
The American auto industry struggled for a variety of reasons but unions certainly weren't the prime mover. After all they were out competed in large part by unionized well compensated labor in Japan and Europe. American automakers specialized in gas guzzlers and they were good at making them. When the dollar fell gas prices skyrocketed the Europeans and Japanese were better positioned to take advantage of market changes. The Americans adjusted poorly putting out unappealing poor quality cars. The unions were unrealistic and did not want to adjust to the new realities. They needed to concede some of their benefits particularly their overly generous pensions. The American auto industry lost their market and adjusted poorly.
Unions in Europe and Japan don't act like unions in America.
Unions elsewhere collaborate with management to make the company (and the employees) more successful.
Unions in America have an adversarial relationship with management that benefits no one.
Agree that the relationship is different. I also think American unions would benefit from learning from foreign unions. I don't think you can lay all of the ills of the auto industry and the more significantly the economy at their feet.
And that’s all the fault of the unions?!? Nothing about union busting and unfair labor practices? Just unions bad, that’s all you got.
Here's the deal... if the "Nurses' Union" had a union hall full of nurses who we could call to get a qualified nurse to come in and work a shift, that would be AWESOME.
But no, they don't do that for us.
If labor unions operated more like trade unions, then maybe we could find some common ground.
So you want a union to serve the corporation. Jesus, I’m glad I don’t work for you.
The union is supposed to serve their members. You'd think they'd want them to find work. I have no problem employing union workers. Why don't the unions help us hire them?
Some might say...piss poor management and management decisions were to blame. But it is easier to blame it on the unions and their greed.
Wrong. They actually help ensure a more accurate representation of wages and, more importantly, stronger unions would help the growing wealth disparity that is getting dangerously out ofor whack. What I don't like is this decision's crippling effect on class action suits against law breaking businesses who screw their employees.
No one cares about wealth disparity. Until an issue is in the top 2-3 issues, it is pretty much irrelevant.
