I'm not sure who I'd pick. Nolf and Taylor are fun to watch. Dake is often like watching paint dry but sometime fun. Imar is the one I would watch over all of them. His one loss was when he tried to big brother Nolf. Blew is wad in the first and paid big. I think I'm leaning Imar. Once he and Nolf get to go full time on the Senior level we will have a lot better idea who really is the best. They will both be a little green and Dake should be just past the top of his game. Wishing Terry Brands will recruit Imar for Hawkeye Wrestling Club.
Nolf > DT?
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Dake is like watching paint dry? Are you f*****ng kidding me? He might be the most fundamentally sound wrestler I have every seen. Just because he didn't run the score up from the neutral position like DT,Imar, etc should not put him in the drying of paint category.
Yah, I knew that would fire some people up, but in folkstyle he would put on a ride that was brutal but boring. He could turn and worked hard on top just not exciting. I could watch Imar and Nolf wrestle to a 2-1 2nd tb match and be glued to it.
You are right he is probably the most fundamentally sound wrestler in the country. That does not always equal exciting. His Freestyle is more fun to watch than his Folk.
Because I don't remember, and dont' have the time to look it up, what were the HS credentials for both Nolf and Taylor coming into college? I know they were highly ranked, but what did they do prior to stepping foot on campus? Really nothing to add to the conversation, but I was curious 
Nolf was #1 at 149. #4 pfp behind Snyder, Marsteller and Brill.Because I don't remember, and dont' have the time to look it up, what were the HS credentials for both Nolf and Taylor coming into college? I know they were highly ranked, but what did they do prior to stepping foot on campus? Really nothing to add to the conversation, but I was curious
DT was #1 at 157 and #1 pfp (Dake was #4, Ruth was #5, Ramos was #10)
When you talk about great coaches, we think about winning. The comparison of Brands and Sanderson = Saban and Ferentz. Just because Saban has more championships, does this make Saban a better coach? It depends on what you are looking for. Sanderson is in a fertile recruiting territory. Brands is not. Saban and Sanderson get the best recruits in the sport. Ferentz and Brands develop athletes. Posters say that Iowa's football team is boring but our offense and defense is very similar to Alabama's. The big difference is skill level. The question is: Could Brands win a national championship with Sanderson's wrestles? I say yes. Could Sanderson win a championship with Iowa's wrestlers? I don't know. I could go on but I am tired.!
Sure I wager steak dinner wit all the fixens at the finest steak Establishment at next years NCAAs .
Terms ; If at any time during the 2016-17 season Bo Nickel pins Gabe Dean I lose simple. If he does not I Win.. I like double cut TOMaHAWK steak are you in?
I don't think its fair to DSJ to include him in that list. He got majored 12-4 against Taylor in the dual meet, yes, but the B1G finals match with Taylor, and the NCAA quarterfinals match were both competitive bouts.
no dout about that, i was saying i liked him better than retherfiod for a while now,but taylor has his 2 titles and 4 finals, nolf is just starting his journey
Nolf > The Magic Man?
HELLLLLL NOOOO!!!!!!!
Don't even belong in the same sentence, unless it's about PSU wrestling.
HELLLLLL NOOOO!!!!!!!
Don't even belong in the same sentence, unless it's about PSU wrestling.
Nolf freshman year=34-2 (32 Bonus)
DT Freshman year=38-1 (34 Bonus)
Nolf Soph year=19-0 (18 Bonus)
DT Soph year=23-0 (21 Bonus)
(Records before the B1G)
Now...Nolf may not be DT but he is doing a damn good imitation.
Pretty much a toss up at this point in their respective careers. Nolf is really sound in his positioning, much more then DT was.
Although DT scored from all angles and positions. Nolf never really gets into those/out of positions that DT often did.
Although DT scored from all angles and positions. Nolf never really gets into those/out of positions that DT often did.
Non PSU fan? Say it ain't so!! Well, I'll admit it, I have been an Iowa fan for years, but there is a fine line between fandom and jealousy I suppose. As far as this thread, Nolf is a machine or as Flo puts it he is the "Matrix". Unsure if they are comparable as far as head to head, but Nolf may end up ahead of DT on bonus point %. Hope to meet you in Saint Louis AZ.
Nolf has a shot at the all time bonus percentage, Taylor is at 91.2, Nolf is at 90.7. He could end up a 3xer with no Hodge. Crazy as that could be. With IMar potentially going for #4 next year, he'd have the inside track. Nolf is probably 2nd or 3rd this year.
Its a different weight but Ben Askren is a better folkstyle wrestler than both. I'd say best of all.
Chris Pendleton disagrees
Longtime viewer of this board - always a great read! Best post I've seen! Hawk fans talking about which PSU'r will have a better career?
I'm not so sure some folks watched Nolf in HS ... as a SR, he was the younger version of his current self ! As a JR / SO / FR ... he didn't score many points, nor did he give up many. Tough ride on top, but not flashy ...
Watching DT early on in HS, he was dominant through out ...
Regardless of the argument - best of health to all participating athletes over the next few weeks - it's my favorite time of the year!
I'm not so sure some folks watched Nolf in HS ... as a SR, he was the younger version of his current self ! As a JR / SO / FR ... he didn't score many points, nor did he give up many. Tough ride on top, but not flashy ...
Watching DT early on in HS, he was dominant through out ...
Regardless of the argument - best of health to all participating athletes over the next few weeks - it's my favorite time of the year!
Well please allow me retort !
We can all sit back and badmouth Jackhawk87 for such a moronic post how could a hawk fan even have such thoughts, then we realize the reason why we come to HR is because we are all knowledgeable wrestling fans that just admire hard-core wrestlers and don't mind giving complements to guys from other teams that do so .
Even though we have to hear back from guys such as yourself That it is the best post you ever seen so give yourself a nice pat on the back ..
I apologize to all Hawk fans for giving the PSU folks something to gloat about.
I am certainly not a PSU fan and almost never root for PSU wrestlers, but I think we can all acknowledge that these two guys are very talented and enjoyable to watch. The only knock I have on either is that they were not smart enough to join the Hawkeyes.
Just wanted to add something to the discussion since bonus percentage is something that usually gets compared to see who was more dominant. If DT had the 4 point near fall and also the fleeing the mat rule he would have a higher percentage than the ridiculous rate he already had. So the comparison there is not quite apples to apples.
Both are dominant, but as others have said, in different ways. Nolf is more of a machine. DT was more of a technician. Although if anyone watched his match from the World Cup, I'd say he can also be a machine.
Full disclosure - PSU Grad/fan - bigger fan of wrestling at all levels
Both are dominant, but as others have said, in different ways. Nolf is more of a machine. DT was more of a technician. Although if anyone watched his match from the World Cup, I'd say he can also be a machine.
Full disclosure - PSU Grad/fan - bigger fan of wrestling at all levels
Another angle. DT bumped up to 184 at midlands and beat Brooks and Dudley. That's not your average cat that can do that. Id like to see DT vs Nickal or Dean right now.
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