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Notre Dame/Stanford - Ohio State/Michigan State...

soybean

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...TCU/Baylor - Alabama/LSU. Those games will mean that at least four teams above us will lose. Any match-ups I'm forgetting?

Also - When I think about the Ohio State and Michigan State game I can't help but think Iowa would match up better against the Spartans than the Buckeyes in Indianapolis. Am I wrong?
 
Interesting. Assuming the committee ranks us like in the polls (though I hope they actually look at our schedule and rank us higher), that means we'd probably be ranked no lower than 6th going into the Big Ten title game. And our opponent in the Big Ten title game would likely be ahead of us so a win would likely leap us into the top 4.
 
Keep in mind Alabama beating LSU doesn't necessarily drop LSU below Iowa. Same with the Baylor/TCU. As they both still have Okie St and Oklahoma yet. And Clemson losing to FSU is that enough to drop them below Iowa?

This is where that national media narrative that people say doesn't mean anything could come in to play.
 
[QUOTE="7thsummitcoach, post: 1118156, member: 12292"]Keep in mind Alabama beating LSU doesn't necessarily drop LSU below Iowa. Same with the Baylor/TCU. As they both still have Okie St and Oklahoma yet. And Clemson losing to FSU is that enough to drop them below Iowa?

This is where that national media narrative that people say doesn't mean anything could come in to play.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but not likely.
 
Regarding the LSU game...

#7 Bama beats #4 LSU...it is not that far fetched to believe LSU would stay in the top 10. Especially since there are 3 other 1 loss teams already there.
 
LSU winning knocks Alabama out of the picture, the last thing we want is 1 loss Alabama and 1 loss LSU
 
I understand it is fun to watch the polls, but based on everything we know and knowing that there are future head to heads which are going to knock some of these undefeated's out of that category - the path to the playoff is simple - we have to win out. If we win the big ten championship, I cannot see a fathomable way we are not in the playoff over a 1-loss non-SEC championship team ('Bama, Ole Miss, etc) or 1-loss PAC12 team (Stanford). I know everyone will say there is a chance, but that just wouldn't happen. Right now the formula for the 4-team playoff is 1) SEC Champion ('Bama/Ole Miss/LSU), 2) Big Ten Champion (Mich State, Ohio State, or Iowa), 3) undefeated Big 12 Champion (TCU or Baylor), and then 4) ACC Champion (Clemson). 4 undefeated conference champions.....that is not controversial at all in my opinion. You cannot put in a 1-loss team over an undefeated champion from those conferences based on the resumes they will have at that time. Stanford losing to Northwestern is a killer for them (and they are showing signs of slipping now too after they escaped WSU) and Notre Dame losing to Clemson killed them.

Also, I do not see a situation where a 1-loss Iowa team makes the playoff unless everything goes haywire. The committee would hold it against us that we did not have to play Ohio State/Michigan/Michigan State in our regular schedule (outside of the Championship game, we'll only play 1 of those 3). Nothing we can do can change that, but it has made our path significantly easier. The only thing we can do is win out and we are in......that is almost un-debateable no matter what conspiracy theories we subscribe too.
 
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Are we still in if we win out beating a one loss team in the big ten title game? If LSU, Baylor or TCU winner, Clemson, Stanford or ND winner, and Memphis win would we be ahead of those teams if who we play in the title game has a loss? If LSU, Clemson and a Big 12 school win out they are in that much is pretty much a fixed deal but if we win out and beat a 1 loss team in the title game can we move past a 1 loss ND or Stanford what about an unbeaten Memphis who would have wins over Ole miss, a ranked Houston, a ranked temple, and a solid navy team? I think we should get in but could we be left out for the 1 loss Irish or 1 loss Stanford team?
 
well, if both Ohio St and MST lose prior tihe B10 championship game we will be at worst #5 headed into that game.

They would never, ever leave out an undefeated Big 10 champion. We will jump the one loss teams if we win out.
 
YES.....this. I get that Iowa is not a sexy team, and yes, the networks would love a 1-loss Alabama/LSU/Notre Dame/Stanford over Iowa.........but it will not happen. Everyone can relax knowing that if we win out, we are in the playoff, and if we lose in the championship game, chances are we end up in the Rose or Fiesta - our fanbase is hungry for a big bowl to go to and those bowls know that. I would think we would be one of the most sought-after "leftover" teams for the former BCS-level bowls not in the playoff situation just based on attendance possibilities alone. If we got selected for the Rose, we'd have to make sure the last person leaving turned off the lights to the state there'd be so many of us there.


well, if both Ohio St and MST lose prior tihe B10 championship game we will be at worst #5 headed into that game.

They would never, ever leave out an undefeated Big 10 champion. We will jump the one loss teams if we win out.
 
While I agree with the sentiment that an undefeated BIG will not be left out of the CFB...I also believe it is extremely naive to say it will never happen.

We have 1 year of history. ONE!

And with most of the talking heads saying how piss poor the Hawks schedule is...Yes, there would be a 'revolt' and yes it would lead to an 8 team playoff...but that is AFTER the fact.

Just like the ACC admitting that Duke got screwed doesn't help Duke in any way...leaving out the BIG champ and then changing the system wouldn't help this year.

Iowa can only do what they can do. And that is win out. After that...there is no guarantee.
 
That's just it, it's the media saying that, not the selection committee.

I'll say it; it'll never happen. The Big 10 has way too much pull for a one loss team to make it over us.
 
Big ten has to much pull for OSU, MSU, even Michigan. I just have a bad feeling that if those teams in the east take each other out it could leave us out. If Clemson, LSU, ND, TCU, all win out why would we jump them if we beat a 1 loss team in the title game? Memphis also can run the table and would have a win over one of the mighty SEC teams. Our SOS has been talked about to death, our common opponent with ND of Pitt could be bad because if ND goes to Pittsburgh and runs them out of the building our 3 point win at home is going to be pointed at as a well look they struggled with a team that this 1 loss team beat bad. Maybe I am just being pessimistic and should just be enjoying the ride right now but my hopes are starting to get up that we have a real shot at the playoff based on how things are going.
 
Are we still in if we win out beating a one loss team in the big ten title game? If LSU, Baylor or TCU winner, Clemson, Stanford or ND winner, and Memphis win would we be ahead of those teams if who we play in the title game has a loss? If LSU, Clemson and a Big 12 school win out they are in that much is pretty much a fixed deal but if we win out and beat a 1 loss team in the title game can we move past a 1 loss ND or Stanford what about an unbeaten Memphis who would have wins over Ole miss, a ranked Houston, a ranked temple, and a solid navy team? I think we should get in but could we be left out for the 1 loss Irish or 1 loss Stanford team?


No undefeated BIG10 champion is ever going to be left out. Never!
 
Just being real, Memphis could have a nice resume at the end of the year. They won't get in over Iowa, but they could have a legitimate claim.
 
Maybe I am just being pessimistic and should just be enjoying the ride right now but my hopes are starting to get up that we have a real shot at the playoff based on how things are going.

you said it all right there. We still have 5 games to win before we worry about any of that. Not sure why anyone would be getting too worried about any of that at this point. But, we would have a better win than any of the ND's in your scenario and have ZERO losses to their one. That would be a pretty simple choice for the selection committee. Plus, all these Big 12 teams still have to play each other. Wouldn't be surprised one bit if Oklahoma beats them all and leaves no undefeated team in that conference.
 
Make it simple - root for Mississippi -PERIOD. They win out and it gives them wins over Alabama and LSU. One of the two, Alabama or LSU will then have 2 losses and will no longer be in the conversation for Top 4. Mississippi's only loss has been to a 1-loss Florida and an unbeaten Memphis. If Mississippi does win the sec championship, the sec will be on the outside looking in at the Top 4.
 
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