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NYT: Trump Calls Officials Handling Los Angeles Wildfires ‘Incompetent’

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President-elect Donald J. Trump offered fresh criticism early Sunday of the officials in charge of fighting the Los Angeles wildfires, calling them “incompetent” and asking why the blazes were not yet extinguished.

“The fires are still raging in L.A.,” Mr. Trump wrote on his Truth Social site. “The incompetent pols have no idea how to put them out.”

Mr. Trump’s comments indicated that the fires, and officials’ response to them, will likely occupy a prominent place on his domestic political agenda when he takes office on Jan. 20. He has renewed a longstanding feud with California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, who in turn has accused Mr. Trump of politicizing the fires.

Mr. Newsom told NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday that he had invited Mr. Trump to visit “in the spirit of an open hand, not a closed fist,” but had yet to receive a response. The governor said he was taking seriously threats by the president-elect to withhold disaster assistance. If he were to do so, Mr. Newsom said, Mr. Trump would be in effect “threatening our first responders.”

California politicians have faced criticism since the fires broke out on Tuesday, including questions over how local and state authorities had prepared for them and how they have grown so quickly into huge blazes.

Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles had to contend with questions about whether there was adequate warning about the likelihood of devastating fires, and why there was a shortage of water and firefighters during the initial response. At a news conference on Thursday, she avoided a question about her absence from the city when the fires began — she was in Ghana on a previously scheduled official visit — and said that any evaluation of mistakes or failures by “any body, department, individual” would come later.

Mr. Newsom, a Democrat, has also fended off criticism from Mr. Trump, who blamed him for the failure to contain the fires and claimed he had blocked an infusion of water to Southern California over concerns about how it would affect a threatened fish species.

Mr. Newsom’s press office responded by saying in a statement that the “water restoration declaration” that Mr. Trump had accused him of not signing did not exist. “The governor is focused on protecting people, not playing politics, and making sure firefighters have all the resources they need,” the statement said.

Mr. Newsom and Kathryn Barger, the chair of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, have invited Mr. Trump to tour fire damage in the city. He has not responded publicly to those invitations.

At least 16 people had died as a result of the fires as of Sunday morning, and at least 12,000 structures had been destroyed, officials said. Mr. Trump alluded to that devastation in his post on Sunday.

“Thousands of magnificent houses are gone, and many more will soon be lost,” he wrote. “There is death all over the place. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our Country. They just can’t put out the fires. What’s wrong with them?”

His post did not mention any officials by name.
 
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Incompetence is the best explanation, everything else is worse. How are the delta Smelt swimming these days?
 
Incompetence is the best explanation, everything else is worse. How are the delta Smelt swimming these days?
Of course the Delta smelt issue had nothing to do with these fires.

President elect was too stupid to realize this and embarrassed himself by ranting about it.

Conservative media sources then ran with it and embarrassed themselves.

Could have been avoided by waiting a minute, bothering to learn what was going on with the fires.

You can understand why I'm not a fan.
 
Of course the Delta smelt fight had nothing to do with these fires.

President elect was too stupid to realize this and embarrassed himself by ranting about it.

Conservative media sources then ran with it and embarrassed themselves.

Could have been avoided by waiting a minute, bothering to learn what was going on with the fires.

You can understand why I'm not a fan.
This really has nothing to do with Trump no matter what he says right now. He has no role to play until he’s sworn in.

The reality is, this gets laid at the feet of those in charge, pretty much every member of the county, state, and federal government from California is a democrat, and we currently have a democrat president.

I’m not in California but it sure sounds like the fires could have been contained faster and extinguished easier if decisions leading up to the fires were made differently.
 
This really has nothing to do with Trump no matter what he says right now. He has no role to play until he’s sworn in.

The reality is, this gets laid at the feet of those in charge, pretty much every member of the county, state, and federal government from California is a democrat, and we currently have a democrat president.

I’m not in California but it sure sounds like the fires could have been contained faster and extinguished easier if decisions leading up to the fires were made differently.
You're right.

About not being in California, that is. As for the rest of it, you know nothing.
 
This really has nothing to do with Trump no matter what he says right now. He has no role to play until he’s sworn in.

The reality is, this gets laid at the feet of those in charge, pretty much every member of the county, state, and federal government from California is a democrat, and we currently have a democrat president.

I’m not in California but it sure sounds like the fires could have been contained faster and extinguished easier if decisions leading up to the fires were made differently.
But he chose to insert himself in a negative way.
 
This really has nothing to do with Trump no matter what he says right now. He has no role to play until he’s sworn in.

The reality is, this gets laid at the feet of those in charge, pretty much every member of the county, state, and federal government from California is a democrat, and we currently have a democrat president.

I’m not in California but it sure sounds like the fires could have been contained faster and extinguished easier if decisions leading up to the fires were made differently.
You’re absolutely right.

If we had simply prevented the “unforeseen” winds caused by nothing we might have, at one point, tried to mitigate, this total devastation might not have occurred.

This gets laid at the feet of those in charge? Seriously?

I guess I missed the news that Democrats are trying to burn LA to the ground.
 
You’re absolutely right.

If we had simply prevented the “unforeseen” winds caused by nothing we might have, at one point, tried to mitigate, this total devastation might not have occurred.

This gets laid at the feet of those in charge? Seriously?

I guess I missed the news that Democrats are trying to burn LA to the ground.
Wildfire season is California is not much different than Hurricane season in Florida. We could revisit how the left/this board treated RDS everytime a wave crashes on the beach.

BTW, the world's largest deepest ocean is sitting right there. Last I checked saltwater puts out forest fires.
 
Wildfire season is California is not much different than Hurricane season in Florida. We could revisit how the left/this board treated RDS everytime a wave crashes on the beach.

BTW, the world's largest deepest ocean is sitting right there. Last I checked saltwater puts out forest fires.
“Last I checked saltwater puts out forest fires.”

It seems that a simple bucket brigade would have saved a lot of problems. You be one smart mofo. It is unbelievable that no one else thought of your simpleton solution.
Zzzz
 
“Last I checked saltwater puts out forest fires.”

It seems that a simple bucket brigade would have saved a lot of problems. You be one smart mofo. It is unbelievable that no one else thought of your simpleton solution.
Zzzz
On board a navy vessel, putting out the fire is priority one. All the rest of this stuff can be dealt with after an AAR is done.

These aren't the first fires the state has ever seen. Do you feel like California, LA, Hollywood are/were properly prepared to tackle this challenge?
 
On board a navy vessel, putting out the fire is priority one. All the rest of this stuff can be dealt with after an AAR is done.

These aren't the first fires the state has ever seen. Do you feel like California, LA, Hollywood are/were properly prepared to tackle this challenge?
I don’t think anybody could have prevented the majority of losses incurred given the complexity of the challenge.
As with the hurricanes you referenced earlier, we are entering uncharted waters regarding frequency and strength of these events. One solution is to get everyone out of the path of these storms. Yeah, just like the bucket brigade, it a’int happening.
 
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How many naval fires are fighting Santa Anna winds, steep ace terrain, civilians in the area, and miles of dry fuel in the path?
Right, we just deal with jet fuel, 100's of chemicals, billion-dollar aircraft, and a nuclear reactor... the navy doesn't know anything about stressful conditions or fire fighting... good call.
 
On board a navy vessel, putting out the fire is priority one. All the rest of this stuff can be dealt with after an AAR is done.

These aren't the first fires the state has ever seen. Do you feel like California, LA, Hollywood are/were properly prepared to tackle this challenge?


On board a naval vessel, you have an entire water system that is dedicated to the supply of water used for fire suppression, because yes, fire on a boat is bad. The piping is routed to provide direct access to the some 800-1000 ft total length of the largest vessel and 50 or 100 ft hoses allow folks to reach all the other nooks and crannies. We do NOT have a dedicated fire suppression system that reaches the full 44 miles of LA. And the maintenance is constant and lifespan limited.

And of all the stuff that can be dealt with later, that includes trying to knock people down a peg. Which is his current participation.

This really has nothing to do with Trump no matter what he says right now. He has no role to play until he’s sworn in.

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Then why the hell is he commenting on it, especially if he has no role to play? Because he is a shitty person and in no way is considered a leader. And when put in charge, he will absolutely <fail to> take ownership of anything that might have gone poorly. Furthering that he may be in charge, but is in no way a leader.

Improvements needed? 100%, but now isn't the time for him to be the asshole he can't help being.
 
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And just to get ahead of the incoming "what abouts"....

1) Salt water is less effective in fighting fires
2) Salt water is FAR more corrosive to systems than fresh water. Meaning they would need to use different and modified equipment and the cost of maintenance is significantly higher. Think generations of occupancy in LA, vs Naval vessels are in service of 40 years at most.
3) No one has an appetite for the cost



Now again, looking in the rear view mirror, they may decide to change the approach and revamp to leverage salt water, they likely will increase the number of reservoirs, they likely will be changing building codes. Should we bring back the thread where we already talked about the reasons LA etc doesn't use desalination for its water supply? Certainly changes are needed, but this is true across the nation where we have under invested in the infrastructure for generations. No one wants to pay for it and no elected official can ever be elected with the promise of increasing taxes to fix the sins of the past on the prevention of the possibility of issues in the future. People have been complaining about the price of eggs at $4, you think folks across the US really want to foot the bill for the billions and billions we need? At some point the bubble will pop and folks will be stumped on "what happened?!", well, folks have been warning for decades, but people don't listen.
 
This really has nothing to do with Trump no matter what he says right now. He has no role to play until he’s sworn in.

The reality is, this gets laid at the feet of those in charge, pretty much every member of the county, state, and federal government from California is a democrat, and we currently have a democrat president.

I’m not in California but it sure sounds like the fires could have been contained faster and extinguished easier if decisions leading up to the fires were made differently.
You're right. Hindsight. Second guessing. Monday morning QB. ;)

It's pretty hard to deal with something that has never happened before. Kinda like Trump's response to Covid. Deny it's a problem then come up with absurd solutions.

I hope aliens land on Earth somewhere in the US during Trump's term. I'm sure he will know exactly what to do.
 
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And just to get ahead of the incoming "what abouts"....

1) Salt water is less effective in fighting fires
2) Salt water is FAR more corrosive to systems than fresh water. Meaning they would need to use different and modified equipment and the cost of maintenance is significantly higher. Think generations of occupancy in LA, vs Naval vessels are in service of 40 years at most.
3) No one has an appetite for the cost



Now again, looking in the rear view mirror, they may decide to change the approach and revamp to leverage salt water, they likely will increase the number of reservoirs, they likely will be changing building codes. Should we bring back the thread where we already talked about the reasons LA etc doesn't use desalination for its water supply? Certainly changes are needed, but this is true across the nation where we have under invested in the infrastructure for generations. No one wants to pay for it and no elected official can ever be elected with the promise of increasing taxes to fix the sins of the past on the prevention of the possibility of issues in the future. People have been complaining about the price of eggs at $4, you think folks across the US really want to foot the bill for the billions and billions we need? At some point the bubble will pop and folks will be stumped on "what happened?!", well, folks have been warning for decades, but people don't listen.
I recognize the cost would be astronomical but I don’t understand why the southwestern states don’t build desalination plants run with nuclear energy
 
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I recognize the cost would be astronomical but I don’t understand why the southwestern states don’t build desalination plants run with nuclear energy
Why hasn't the federal government taken these types of steps? We have billions for Ukraine...
 
Pretty obvious what Trump's motivation is in criticizing the California fire response.

Such a worthless human being.
I'm sure Joey has reached out to Donald to say hey you're gonna be in my spot in a few days, what do you think we should do here? How about we devise a plan that you can carry on into your presidency...No? That hasn't happened? What a great leader Joe is...
 
I'm sure Joey has reached out to Donald to say hey you're gonna be in my spot in a few days, what do you think we should do here? How about we devise a plan that you can carry on into your presidency...No? That hasn't happened? What a great leader Joe is...
Wow.
 
This really has nothing to do with Trump no matter what he says right now. He has no role to play until he’s sworn in.

The reality is, this gets laid at the feet of those in charge, pretty much every member of the county, state, and federal government from California is a democrat, and we currently have a democrat president.

I’m not in California but it sure sounds like the fires could have been contained faster and extinguished easier if decisions leading up to the fires were made differently.
Oh, wise one. Lay some Florida wisdom on us, please. Weeks of hurricane force winds and urban water systems to fight a firestorm?

So, we all know your Orange Fumbfcvk hero has convinced you there is a giant spigot to turn and all the water in the world will flow to California, but hey, why haven't you dummies built a 100' wall to keep the ocean out? Equally stupid but the Orange Airhead actually believes his fantasy, and you stoops go for it.
 
Oh, wise one. Lay some Florida wisdom on us, please. Weeks of hurricane force winds and urban water systems to fight a firestorm?

So, we all know your Orange Fumbfcvk hero has convinced you there is a giant spigot to turn and all the water in the world will flow to California, but hey, why haven't you dummies built a 100' wall to keep the ocean out? Equally stupid but the Orange Airhead actually believes his fantasy, and you stoops go for it.
That was a nice liberal whackadoo rant… it was like a Seinfeld episode… funny but no point.

Ron Desantis would have had all the reservoirs full, and fire teams fully staffed, and a plan to fight the fires…

We know this because Ron has proven he knows how to lead before, during, and after a crisis.
 
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