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GunnerHawk

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Many of the top NFL offenses have mobile quarterbacks who can innovate on the fly. Watching Mahommes last night, pretty amazing how he gets out of trouble and makes plays. His legs buy him time for receivers to get open. He's not the only one, Allen at Buffalo, Jackson at Baltimore, and the list goes on.

Heck our last Big Ten title was with a mobile QB - Brad Banks. Beathard went undefeated until the Big Championship game, the common thread, he could run. Look at Michigan, Harbaby went to an underclassmen over a fifth year senior to provide that added dimension to their offense.

Bottom line, use a QB who can make a few plays with his legs. Especially with a young developing offensive line. Hello McFly - yes Kirk and Brian, it isn't that difficult to figure out.
 

83Hawk

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Many of the top NFL offenses have mobile quarterbacks who can innovate on the fly. Watching Mahommes last night, pretty amazing how he gets out of trouble and makes plays. His legs buy him time for receivers to get open. He's not the only one, Allen at Buffalo, Jackson at Baltimore, and the list goes on.

Heck our last Big Ten title was with a mobile QB - Brad Banks. Beathard went undefeated until the Big Championship game, the common thread, he could run. Look at Michigan, Harbaby went to an underclassmen over a fifth year senior to provide that added dimension to their offense.

Bottom line, use a QB who can make a few plays with his legs. Especially with a young developing offensive line. Hello McFly - yes Kirk and Brian, it isn't that difficult to figure out.
Last Big 10 title was with Drew Tate, but your point still stands.
 

blhawk

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Kirk's philosphy has been to find a Tom Brady type of qb, ignoring how rare guys are with precision accuracy and great pocket awareness/timing at that age. Tom Brady wasn't even Tom Brady as we know him now when he was in college. He's too afraid that a guy who runs will fumble but he needs to accept that his lines just aren't good enough to not have a mobile qb. From what I hear about the younger qb's they might be moving that way but we won't know til we see it. Someday, hopefully
 

eyesofhawk

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Banks and Beathard both tended to play their own game, with not so much direction from the bench...
Not close to true with Banks. He was pretty much a one read guy. At most he was reading half the field. Essentially all of his passing yardage was schemed open.

Beathard did have a bit more sling to his game.

With both, the improvisation came because they were mobile and able to extend plays. It was much moreso the ability to get out of trouble than it was freelancing on the fly. Even much of Banks' rushing yardage was schemed open off the bootleg
 

Rifler

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Not close to true with Banks. He was pretty much a one read guy. At most he was reading half the field. Essentially all of his passing yardage was schemed open.

Beathard did have a bit more sling to his game.

With both, the improvisation came because they were mobile and able to extend plays. It was much moreso the ability to get out of trouble than it was freelancing on the fly. Even much of Banks' rushing yardage was schemed open off the bootleg

And the Iowa coaching staff never fully approved of either quarterback's mode of play,.. The young Stanzi had a similar rebellious streak.
 

pistachio1999

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Many of the top NFL offenses have mobile quarterbacks who can innovate on the fly. Watching Mahommes last night, pretty amazing how he gets out of trouble and makes plays. His legs buy him time for receivers to get open. He's not the only one, Allen at Buffalo, Jackson at Baltimore, and the list goes on.

Heck our last Big Ten title was with a mobile QB - Brad Banks. Beathard went undefeated until the Big Championship game, the common thread, he could run. Look at Michigan, Harbaby went to an underclassmen over a fifth year senior to provide that added dimension to their offense.

Bottom line, use a QB who can make a few plays with his legs. Especially with a young developing offensive line. Hello McFly - yes Kirk and Brian, it isn't that difficult to figure out.
I bet their careers are shorter as well.
 

BurgHawk87

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Not close to true with Banks. He was pretty much a one read guy. At most he was reading half the field. Essentially all of his passing yardage was schemed open.

Beathard did have a bit more sling to his game.

With both, the improvisation came because they were mobile and able to extend plays. It was much moreso the ability to get out of trouble than it was freelancing on the fly. Even much of Banks' rushing yardage was schemed open off the bootleg
If the play call makes sense it should only be a 2 read option anyway. Heck I'd take a single read over not even checking but throwing to the tight end right away.
 
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farina1

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Last Big 10 title was with Drew Tate, but your point still stands.
Tate could use his legs as well. Great at extending plays. Throw in the fact he had no running game. Kid was a gamer something KF does not want.
 
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Didn't a reporter ask Kirk during an early season presser if he would label Labas as a dual-threat QB and Kirk just scoffed and said 'yeah Joe does a little bit of running around back there.' It's like Kirk thinks that "dual-threat" is a concept that is alien to his complex, highly efficient offensive scoring machine that he proudly stands by. Banks was a QB that could make plays if the pocket broke down but Kirk would never call him a dual-threat QB. Conservative Kirk doesn't want his QB taking hits thus the lack of recruiting mobile QBs.
 

RocknRollface

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Many of the top NFL offenses have mobile quarterbacks who can innovate on the fly. Watching Mahommes last night, pretty amazing how he gets out of trouble and makes plays. His legs buy him time for receivers to get open. He's not the only one, Allen at Buffalo, Jackson at Baltimore, and the list goes on.

Heck our last Big Ten title was with a mobile QB - Brad Banks. Beathard went undefeated until the Big Championship game, the common thread, he could run. Look at Michigan, Harbaby went to an underclassmen over a fifth year senior to provide that added dimension to their offense.

Bottom line, use a QB who can make a few plays with his legs. Especially with a young developing offensive line. Hello McFly - yes Kirk and Brian, it isn't that difficult to figure out.
Pretty much all the QBs in the nfl (and college) are mobile to a certain degree besides a few old guys.

Even Brady, Rodgers and Stafford are more mobile than Petras. They can all step up in the pocket at least.

For Kirk to go back to Petras after last year was such a weird inexplicable decision but sticking with bad qbs has been his thing for a long time.