Oops. .missed the extra point!Cards with TD and field goal to take lead.
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Oops. .missed the extra point!Cards with TD and field goal to take lead.
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The Cardinals are going to sweep this series.
Not in the standings, bitchCards with TD and field goal to take lead.
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Someone had money on the game...Not in the standings, bitch
No, Mitch is just a birch, saying the cubs have no chance. He's a bitter bird fanSomeone had money on the game...
You must be new here.No, Mitch is just a birch, saying the cubs have no chance. He's a bitter bird fan
Not new, you just snacks off arrogance and general douchiness, attributed to cards fansYou must be new here.
Well documented Yankees fan.
Or most cubs fans after last year...It's not arrogance...the cards have just been better over the course of historyNot new, you just snacks off arrogance and general douchiness, attributed to cards fans
Ultimately, a MLB team is judged by how many World
Series Championships they have won. This puts the
New York Yankees at the top of the list. They have
won 27 World Series.
The next criterion for MLB team is the number of players
who are in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown. Great Yanks
include Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey
Mantle, Yogi Berra, Whitey Ford, and soon to be Derek
Jeter and Mariano Riveria
Personally, I joined this thread after the Yanks swept the Cubs last spring. I stayed because I was enamored with the arrogance of a few Cubs fans since then.I can understand a Cards fan or any other NL Central fan in this thread. Shoot, I could understand an NL fan in general participating.
Why do you keep spouting off about the Yankees in this thread when no one gives a shit about the AL or the Yankees.
I love you, I really do because of your awkwardness, I've read it for a long time and it's awesome. But seriously, no one reading this thread gives a crap about the Yankees outside of "blah.. Yankees, and stuff"
Personally, I joined this thread after the Yanks swept the Cubs last spring. I stayed because I was enamored with the arrogance of a few Cubs fans since then.I can understand a Cards fan or any other NL Central fan in this thread. Shoot, I could understand an NL fan in general participating.
Why do you keep spouting off about the Yankees in this thread when no one gives a shit about the AL or the Yankees.
I love you, I really do because of your awkwardness, I've read it for a long time and it's awesome. But seriously, no one reading this thread gives a crap about the Yankees outside of "blah.. Yankees, and stuff"
Or most cubs fans after last year...It's not arrogance...the cards have just been better over the course of history
Personally, I joined this thread after the Yanks swept the Cubs last spring. I stayed because I was enamored with the arrogance of a few Cubs fans since then.
Cardinals lead by probably 100 games or soWhat's the head to head record ?
Cardinals lead by probably 100 games or so
Cool...world series and pennants?You would be wrong. Cubs lead the all time series.
Cool...world series and pennants?
I assure you, the Cards are entirely capable of giving away any and all ballgames this year.
Haha because less pennants and world series means better team historicallyCongrats. Obviously cubs have been the better team than the cardinals.
You would be wrong. Cubs lead the all time series.
Enthralled Yankees fans, yeah. But since the draft was initiated, it took an owner who didn't mind spending ungodly amounts of money to keep you relevant, and ever since he died I don't believe you've won anything since.
IMHO, there's a handful of franchises that are in better shape than the Yankees are right now cause the business model of baseball has changed.
Buying a championship doesn't exactly work like it used to. You have to actually draft and develop your own talent nowadays.
And other franchises do it better than the Yanks do right now.
The Cardinals are a fascinating team for a roster construction standpoint. They have a strong starting rotation - no true "ace" (Martinez has the talent, just needs to put it together), but a group of very solid pitchers. The bullpen is mediocre and from a position player standpoint they basically have a league average player at every spot. They have a couple of exceptions in Carpenter, Gyorko, and Fowler, but they have nothing close to a "star" or somebody who could grow into one. But because they don't have obvious holes, they are a competitive team.
Some Cardinal folks I follow would like to see the Cards package some of their surplus of solid MiLB prospects for a dynamic, middle-of-the-order bat. They believe the Cardinals are too cheap but we're able to get away with it for awhile because they hit on all of their prospects.
Excellent post. Solid but average players mostly brought up through the system. The other night all 9 starters were drafted players brought up through the farm system. Wainwright ( my all time favorite Cardinals ) is adjusting his game to his age, Lynn will be gone next year, Reyes will be back from TJ surgery and Luke Weaver is tearing up AAA again. Just got the 29th best prospect from Seattle for an injury prone Gonzalez. One star would be nice in the 3 or 4 spot but we will likely trudge on the Cardinal way with our home grown team, looking for a bargain player here and there.
The Cards are up by that 100+ game figure post WWI. The Cub$ dominated the 1800's however.
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Haha because less pennants and world series means better team historically
The Cardinals are a fascinating team for a roster construction standpoint. They have a strong starting rotation - no true "ace" (Martinez has the talent, just needs to put it together), but a group of very solid pitchers. The bullpen is mediocre and from a position player standpoint they basically have a league average player at every spot. They have a couple of exceptions in Carpenter, Gyorko, and Fowler, but they have nothing close to a "star" or somebody who could grow into one. But because they don't have obvious holes, they are a competitive team.
Some Cardinal folks I follow would like to see the Cards package some of their surplus of solid MiLB prospects for a dynamic, middle-of-the-order bat. They believe the Cardinals are too cheap but we're able to get away with it for awhile because they hit on all of their prospects.
Good. With a few days of rest he should be ready to pitch the 8th.Bryant back in there today, that's nice surprise.
You just show me any publication that has the cubs as a better franchise than the cardinals all timeI can tell you're running scared now. Cubs finally have ownership that wants to win.
You just show me any publication that has the cubs as a better franchise than the cardinals all time
I would say they are a team of mostly replacement level players, hence the basically .500 record.
So, obviously you think Iowa State football has been a better program than Iowa football since 1998. Because head-to-head tells it all.Head to head competition. What else is there?
Yep. Granted, vets like Carpenter/Piscotty/Fowler aren't having good years and them not staying healthy ain't helping. But their lineup is littered with guys entirely capable of putting up a golden sombrero fairly efficiently - all youngsters too.
The Cardinals badly need their positional org guys to provide both power and contact to compete because that's the model they built. They seem to be drafting and developing guys who can mash, but (so far) lack making enough contact - or guys who make good contact but don't hit for power.
No John Jay types for the most part. And glove work skills don't seem to enter into the equation much any more. "The better power hitter plays", but they all have to hit for lots of power to make up for the lack of contact.
Grichuk, DeJong, Vogt, Bader, and now O'Neill...are all basically the same batter. They can hit the ball a country mile, but are modern day K machines who have to walk 15% to be above replacement level. None of them are remotely close to that unfortunately, though O'Neill does show so far he will take a walk more then the rest.
That's why they took O'Neill for Gonzalez, and why Seattle felt he was expendable. Seattle's betting he won't make enough contact (along with desperately needing cost controlled pitching) - and St. Louis is seeing possibly a "better Grichuk" and has a system full of pitching.
Hell, Aledmys Diaz wasn't sent down cause he wasn't hitting, he was sent down cause his power evaporated.
That 6 walk inning yesterday...haven't had a game like that all year. You can get to the Cubs setup guys by making them throw strikes (which they are not great at, but serviceable), and yesterday the Cub relievers couldn't.
But it's been rare when the Cards are actually patient enough to take advantage.