Oh, it’s a Civil War alright.....

[torbee]

But it’s within the GOP

Post Trump, Republicans Are Headed for a Bitter Internal Showdown (Published 2021)

G.O.P. leadership would like to blunt President Trump’s influence over the party. Mr. Trump and his allies want to punish those who have crossed him. A series of clashes looms.

www.nytimes.com

 

[86Hawkeye]

Impossible. All GOPers are identical.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Impossible. All GOPers are identical.

It's always been a marriage of elites, wannabe elites, and very un-elites. People who have different grievances with the government but agree that government is blame for about anything and if you can plausibly track any govt blame, best to focus on eliminating government's role instead of fixing it or dealing with it

 

[Huey Grey]

I'm not sure which side wins out? Trump's republican support is bleeding, but he still has 80%. The establishment Rs want him gone. But the Trumpers have no fear of leaving the party. I don't know what will bring the party back together? Maybe a new boogeyman.

 

[NoleATL]

That isn't going to work for them. I've seen numerous posts from MAGAts saying "Mitch doesn't think we'll leave the GOP, he's wrong blah blah blah..."

 

[THE_DEVIL]

Impossible. All GOPers are identical.

Wrong. 98% identical.

 

[LuteHawk]

IF the Senate impeaches Trump and then passes a
resolution that he cannot run for President again,
then Trump will not be a 3rd Party candidate in
2024. The humiliation of impeachment by both
Houses of Congress will bring to an end the saga
of Donald Trump.

 

[Bank of Hawk]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

 

[Huey Grey]

IF the Senate impeaches Trump and then passes a
resolution that he cannot run for President again,
then Trump will not be a 3rd Party candidate in
2024. The humiliation of impeachment by both
Houses of Congress will bring to an end the saga
of Donald Trump.

It won't. Rand Paul is already saying that a third of the party will leave if Trump is convicted. Now I have no idea if it's less than that or more. But I am sure that he is correct that many will abandon the Rs.

Trump is how they identify themselves. More than identifying as husbands or wives, parents, children, bothers or sisters. They identify as Trumpers first. That won't disappear immediately.

 

[RunRonnieRun]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

because he’s a nincompoop

 

[Hawksfinal4]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

SMH 🤦
To avoid prosecution from criminal activity???????

 

[ConvenientParking]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

Because Super PACs make more money than bad real estate deals

 

[joelbc1]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

But then Bank, I cannot understand for the life of me, how anyone can want DJTrump to represent them in anything. Screw him, screw his family....he has spent his adult life disserving anyone but himself. He has done nothing for anyone but himself. I do believe he is a criminal, too.

 

[Morrison71]

Republicans will always fall in line though. They also hate dems much more than each other, so I’m not really sure this will lead to much. I’m hoping they will keep fighting amongst each other.

 

[dirtypool]

Maybe a new boogeyman.

Can you believe we are eroding our American way of life by putting in ramps and elevators and making sure doorways are wide enough for these handicapped people? You know how much money it costs to bend over backwards to accomodate those people? Its unamerican and they need to pick themseves up by the bootstraps.

 

[stout1]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

It wasn’t like their image was particularly great heading in to this thing.

He was considered to be a narcissistic intellectual lightweight conman grifter coming in to this thing and has added “worst president” to the description.

 

[goldmom]

Impossible. All GOPers are identical.

Stop being ridiculous.

 

[hawkdave007]

It's always been a marriage of elites, wannabe elites, and very un-elites. People who have different grievances with the government but agree that government is blame for about anything and if you can plausibly track any govt blame, best to focus on eliminating government's role instead of fixing it or dealing with it

You really said it all!

 

[goldmom]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

I boldly (facetiously) predict he’ll be around but he IS going to fade out sooner than you think.
Unless Dems keep him in the spotlight. Then it’s on them. Let him fade away. Seeking revenge/punishment makes him able to come across as a victim. Pelosi and Schumer are not popular and will look like the bad guys many believe they are.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

I boldly (facetiously) predict he’ll be around but he IS going to fade out sooner than you think.
Unless Dems keep him in the spotlight. Then it’s on them. Let him fade away. Seeking revenge/punishment makes him able to come across as a victim. Pelosi and Schumer are not popular and will look like the bad guys many believe they are.

Let him fade away just like the repub establishment let one Hillary Rodham Clinton fade away?

 

[goldmom]

Let him fade away just like the repub establishment let one Hillary Rodham Clinton fade away?

She has faded away, but please note she cannot stop talking and thus keeping herself in the public arena. And that's her choice.

 

[stout1]

She has faded away, but please note she cannot stop talking and thus keeping herself in the public arena. And that's her choice.

Mike Pompeo literally announced a potential release about Clinton’s emails in late October 2020 in an effort to affect the election.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

She has faded away, but please note she cannot stop talking and thus keeping herself in the public arena. And that's her choice.

And if Trump acts in the same manner?

 

[stout1]

And if Trump acts in the same manner?

That’s different.

And the left’s fault.

He has no choice but to talk and they have no choice but to listen.

 

[LuteHawk]

The Republican party has different voices among them.

1. The extreme right wing is the voice of loyalty to Trump
2. The fiscal conservative wants smaller government & less debt
3. The moderate wants common sense approach to govt
which thinks outside the box and gets things done.
4. The majority are basically the GOP regulars who support
their candidates because it is their family tradition.

 

[Huey Grey]

She has faded away, but please note she cannot stop talking and thus keeping herself in the public arena. And that's her choice.

The GOP won't let Hillary fade away. Kavanaugh blamed her during his rape hearing. Trump has evoked her name many times. As preposterous as it sounds, some Pubber Reps brought her up in their floor speeches during the second impeachment.

 

[DrVenkman]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

Money. He is going to get destroyed if he can’t steal his followers money. Just like all the money he stole during the last 7 weeks claiming election fraud.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Trump would want to stay in politics after the image beating he and his family have take over the past year and the accelerating pace of the beatings this past month.

Image beating? Now that's funny.

 

[goldmom]

And if Trump acts in the same manner?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

 

[blhawk]

I'm not sure which side wins out? Trump's republican support is bleeding, but he still has 80%. The establishment Rs want him gone. But the Trumpers have no fear of leaving the party. I don't know what will bring the party back together? Maybe a new boogeyman.

If biden doesn't seek second term and Mayor Pete or a black/latin person wins nomination I bet that would bring them back together. Hate and fear are their magic elixirs

 

[Huey Grey]

If biden doesn't seek second term and Mayor Pete or a black/latin person wins nomination I bet that would bring them back together. Hate and fear are their magic elixirs

If the GOP spent half as much time crafting real policy, as they do inventing boogeymen, this country would be way better off.

 

[haw-key]

If biden doesn't seek second term and Mayor Pete or a black/latin person wins nomination I bet that would bring them back together. Hate and fear are their magic elixirs

Well if you don’t have policy success you can always fall back to your tried and true racist tropes. BAU.

 

[thewop]

I think the split in the GOP is bigger than most realize. Today I was driving through the countryside and saw a massive trump pence sign on someone's shed. The difference in this one is that it had a fresh coat of black paint over pence's name.

I think pence is fairly well liked among establishment GOP and conservatives in general. Not the hard core trumpers though, they're a different breed.

They'll all have enough to be upset about in the next couple of years though that they'll come together I imagine.

 

[ConvenientParking]

They'll all have enough to be upset about in the next couple of years though that they'll come together I imagine.

ya when u irrationally hate or fear govt, any attempts at functional govt seem like torture i s'pose

 

[thewop]

ya when u irrationally hate or fear govt, any attempts at functional govt seem like torture i s'pose

No they're just independently minded.

 

[Hawkeyenuts66]

Just waiting to see how many heads explode when Trump switches back the the Democrat Party.

 

[Whatsgoingonwitgyouguys0190]

Just waiting to see how many heads explode when Trump switches back the the Democrat Party.

Trump is almost as big of a bitch as you are.

 

[LuteHawk]

There seems to be some Trump revenge in the air.

His daughter Ivanka running against Senator Marco Rubio
The search for a Trump loyalist to run against Liz Cheney
The search for a Trump loyalist to run against John Thune

Donald Trump wants to punish those who abandoned
him after his loss to Joe Biden. This revenge will fail.

 

[Hawkeyenuts66]

Trump is almost as big of a bitch as you are.

There's one, that was as easy as your old lady.

 

[Whatsgoingonwitgyouguys0190]

There's one, that was as easy as your old lady.

Get It buddy, she’s earned a good time or two.