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Opinion Alarmed Republicans are preparing to draft Glenn Youngkin

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Some of the biggest Republican donors in the country will converge next month at the historic Cavalier Hotel in Virginia Beach for a two-day meeting to rally behind Gov. Glenn Youngkin. The closed gathering, named the “Red Vest Retreat” after the fleece Youngkin wore during his 2021 campaign, will begin Oct. 17 and be focused, officially, on the Republican effort to win full control of the General Assembly in Virginia’s upcoming elections. But unofficially, several donors tell me, it will be an opportunity for them to try to push, if not shove, Youngkin into the Republican presidential race.


Others say they will be busy prodding Youngkin and his allies in phone calls from afar. “He appears to be leaving the door open,” Thomas Peterffy, a billionaire who has already given millions of dollars to Youngkin’s PAC, told me this week. “And if Republicans win in Virginia, maybe we can talk him into it. He obviously wants to see what emerges, what the state of play is.



“The money would be there,” Peterffy assured me.
Drafting Youngkin as a last-minute addition to the sclerotic Republican presidential field is something that has lingered for months as a donor fantasy — a whispered, can-you-imagine gambit rarely meriting much discussion because there has been widespread hope that somebody, anybody, would gain traction against former president Donald Trump. But now, fantasy talk of an audacious, break-the-glass moment for the anti-Trump faction has morphed into not-so-quiet consideration.
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Wednesday’s debate in California likely did little to calm the restlessness felt by plugged-in Republicans desperate for an alternative to Trump. Even as some contenders understandably boast about a bounce, dissatisfaction with the field has become a refrain that will not abate.



The thirsting for Youngkin is not a well-orchestrated power play. It is the latest slapdash scheme in a long search for a standard-bearer and a portrait of the powerlessness so many Republicans feel as Trump plows ahead, shrugging off criminal indictments and outrage over rhetoric they fear is growing dark and dangerous.
After months of hearing mostly about Democratic concern about President Biden’s poll numbers or his age, it’s evident that a Republican panic is emerging from hibernation.
Donors and anti-Trump Republicans have been fixated on Youngkin for two years, since his 2021 election impressed them for how he was able to win support from Trump voters while keeping Trump himself at a distance. They also know a direct challenge to Trump would be politically brutal — and that late entries are logistically near-impossible.



Nevertheless, the anti-Trump Republicans carry on, in text messages and emails, and over meals at five-star hotels, talking to friends and megadonors about the need to be prepared to help Youngkin ramp up a robust national campaign. They want to be ready.
“I’m for whoever can beat Trump in the primary and, while I still think some of the current candidates can do this, I’d welcome Youngkin putting his oar in,” William P. Barr, Trump’s former attorney general, told me. “If the governor indicated he’d to it, I believe he would draw serious support and be a strong candidate,” Barr said.
Rupert Murdoch, the new chairman emeritus of Fox Corporation and News Corp., has encouraged Youngkin in at least two face-to-face meetings, as The Post reported last month. And Murdoch has continued to speak highly of a possible Youngkin campaign to colleagues, according to a person familiar with his comments.



“The search for other people is very real,” Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton told me, recounting how he went to Atlanta in August to try to recruit Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, who resisted Trump’s pressure campaign in the aftermath of the 2020 election. Bolton left unconvinced that Kemp would do it. “A lot of people put Youngkin in the category of a kind of fresh face who could make a difference,” he said. (Bolton hasn’t ruled out his own late run if others decide against it.)
Of course, many other donors and anti-Trump Republicans hope that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.) or former vice president Mike Pence, among others, could eventually pull even with Trump. But the experience of DeSantis has dampened spirits. If someone who thundered to national prominence couldn’t overtake Trump by now, who can?
“DeSantis has faltered and failed to meet expectations and donors know it,” Ed Rollins, Ronald Reagan’s former campaign manager, told me. “No one has a real opening right now, but people are trying to figure out what to do.”

 
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he doesn't appear to be stupid enough to enter this race. Not while Orange Jesus is still going strong. He seems like the type who would graciously agree to enter the race if Trump suffers a massive grabber during one of his trials.
He might be biding his time for 2028, but all of the Republicans doing this should be wary of a President Trump refusing to step down in January of 2029.
 
Virtually unlimited campaign dollars and the backing of Rupert Murdoch would ordinarily make this a no-brainer.

But no amount of money and no amount of airtime and the considerable support from a major network is going to unseat Trump.

Kind of amusing to see Murdoch desperate to throw Younkin in front of the ugly beast when he created and nurtured the monster (for profit) for years.
 
This is precisely why the national D party is pouring tons of money into the local state legislative races here this fall, including that of the porn-candidate.
 
Youngkin would be no different than the other candidates unless he's willing to take Trump on directly. Other than Christie, none of the current candidates are willing to do so. Trump is under indictment for 91 felony counts and yet not a mention of this in the debate last night by any of the candidates. His rhetoric and postings on Truth Social are outrageous - the latest of which is his declaration to "execute" General Milley. Yet not a single call out from the candidates - zilch! Trump is a real threat to the very fabric of our democracy and needs to be challenged at every opportunity and soundly defeated in 2024.
 
This is precisely why the national D party is pouring tons of money into the local state legislative races here this fall, including that of the porn-candidate.
I don't get what you are trying to say? What do Dems have to do with a few non cult members attempting to draft Youngkin into the Republican primary? As far as the porn lady, I hope you are willing to sacrifice Ms. Boebert's seat in order to stand on the moral high ground.
 
I don't get what you are trying to say? What do Dems have to do with a few non cult members attempting to draft Youngkin into the Republican primary? As far as the porn lady, I hope you are willing to sacrifice Ms. Boebert's seat in order to stand on the moral high ground.
The d’s recognize that youngkin could be a threat of the alternative, so critical to deprive his party of majority control of both state houses.
 
I don't get what you are trying to say? What do Dems have to do with a few non cult members attempting to draft Youngkin into the Republican primary? As far as the porn lady, I hope you are willing to sacrifice Ms. Boebert's seat in order to stand on the moral high ground.
And I don’t give a shit about Norbert. She ain’t my rep.
 
Good luck getting MAGA votes if Turd isn't on the ballot.

It would be a vloodbath for the RNC..
Independents would flock to the republican candidate if its not Trump,
Biden is already underwater with them 60-40% on favorability and he is only at 42% favorability with all Americans

 
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Independents would flock to the republican candidate if its not Trump,
Biden is already underwater with them 60-40% on favorability and he is only at 42% favorability with all Americans

You think that Independents voting for the Republican candidate offsets MAGA not voting at all?

I guess we'll just have to disagree.
 
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You think that Independents voting for the Republican candidate offsets MAGA not voting at all?

I guess we'll just have to disagree.
I think there are a lot of MAGA who will quietly vote for the R nominee, remember hardcore MAGA only makes up a small amount of his support which can easily be overtaken by independents
 
I think there are a lot of MAGA who will quietly vote for the R nominee, remember hardcore MAGA only makes up a small amount of his support which can easily be overtaken by independents
No way. At least 20%, maybe 25%, of Republicans will follow Donald Trump’s instructions if he is not the nominee … and Trump will go scorched Earth against the nominee if he somehow loses (rigged!!).

You really think Trump will go away quietly? It would be a bloodbath and he will take a large chunk with him. There aren’t enough undecided Independents alive in America to offset that exodus.
 
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Some of the biggest Republican donors in the country will converge next month at the historic Cavalier Hotel in Virginia Beach for a two-day meeting to rally behind Gov. Glenn Youngkin. The closed gathering, named the “Red Vest Retreat” after the fleece Youngkin wore during his 2021 campaign, will begin Oct. 17 and be focused, officially, on the Republican effort to win full control of the General Assembly in Virginia’s upcoming elections. But unofficially, several donors tell me, it will be an opportunity for them to try to push, if not shove, Youngkin into the Republican presidential race.


Others say they will be busy prodding Youngkin and his allies in phone calls from afar. “He appears to be leaving the door open,” Thomas Peterffy, a billionaire who has already given millions of dollars to Youngkin’s PAC, told me this week. “And if Republicans win in Virginia, maybe we can talk him into it. He obviously wants to see what emerges, what the state of play is.



“The money would be there,” Peterffy assured me.
Drafting Youngkin as a last-minute addition to the sclerotic Republican presidential field is something that has lingered for months as a donor fantasy — a whispered, can-you-imagine gambit rarely meriting much discussion because there has been widespread hope that somebody, anybody, would gain traction against former president Donald Trump. But now, fantasy talk of an audacious, break-the-glass moment for the anti-Trump faction has morphed into not-so-quiet consideration.
Press Enter to skip to end of carousel


Wednesday’s debate in California likely did little to calm the restlessness felt by plugged-in Republicans desperate for an alternative to Trump. Even as some contenders understandably boast about a bounce, dissatisfaction with the field has become a refrain that will not abate.



The thirsting for Youngkin is not a well-orchestrated power play. It is the latest slapdash scheme in a long search for a standard-bearer and a portrait of the powerlessness so many Republicans feel as Trump plows ahead, shrugging off criminal indictments and outrage over rhetoric they fear is growing dark and dangerous.
After months of hearing mostly about Democratic concern about President Biden’s poll numbers or his age, it’s evident that a Republican panic is emerging from hibernation.
Donors and anti-Trump Republicans have been fixated on Youngkin for two years, since his 2021 election impressed them for how he was able to win support from Trump voters while keeping Trump himself at a distance. They also know a direct challenge to Trump would be politically brutal — and that late entries are logistically near-impossible.



Nevertheless, the anti-Trump Republicans carry on, in text messages and emails, and over meals at five-star hotels, talking to friends and megadonors about the need to be prepared to help Youngkin ramp up a robust national campaign. They want to be ready.
“I’m for whoever can beat Trump in the primary and, while I still think some of the current candidates can do this, I’d welcome Youngkin putting his oar in,” William P. Barr, Trump’s former attorney general, told me. “If the governor indicated he’d to it, I believe he would draw serious support and be a strong candidate,” Barr said.
Rupert Murdoch, the new chairman emeritus of Fox Corporation and News Corp., has encouraged Youngkin in at least two face-to-face meetings, as The Post reported last month. And Murdoch has continued to speak highly of a possible Youngkin campaign to colleagues, according to a person familiar with his comments.



“The search for other people is very real,” Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton told me, recounting how he went to Atlanta in August to try to recruit Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, who resisted Trump’s pressure campaign in the aftermath of the 2020 election. Bolton left unconvinced that Kemp would do it. “A lot of people put Youngkin in the category of a kind of fresh face who could make a difference,” he said. (Bolton hasn’t ruled out his own late run if others decide against it.)
Of course, many other donors and anti-Trump Republicans hope that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.) or former vice president Mike Pence, among others, could eventually pull even with Trump. But the experience of DeSantis has dampened spirits. If someone who thundered to national prominence couldn’t overtake Trump by now, who can?
“DeSantis has faltered and failed to meet expectations and donors know it,” Ed Rollins, Ronald Reagan’s former campaign manager, told me. “No one has a real opening right now, but people are trying to figure out what to do.”

The guy whose son committed voter fraud twice and nothing happened to him.
 
And I don’t give a shit about Norbert. She ain’t my rep.
See my other response. She is one of the biggest, most visible members of your party. It isn’t a buffet. You can’t just take the tax cut and the nut job Federalist judges and leave the MAGA clown car carnage at the steam table.
 
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No way. At least 20%, maybe 25%, of Republicans will follow Donald Trump’s instructions if he is not the nominee … and Trump will go scorched Earth against the nominee if he somehow loses (rigged!!).

You really think Trump will go away quietly? It would be a bloodbath and he will take a large chunk with him. There aren’t enough undecided Independents alive in America to offset that exodus.
Yep, I don't think that poster understands how many people identify as hard core MAGA.
And Independents aren't flocking to any Republican candidate because the Republican Party wants to restrict women's rights.
The majority of the stances of the GOP are not popular nationally.
Include gun law reform in that approach.
The GOP faces many more issues than just having Turd at the top of the ticket.
 
Yep, I don't think that poster understands how many people identify as hard core MAGA.
And Independents aren't flocking to any Republican candidate because the Republican Party wants to restrict women's rights.
The majority of the stances of the GOP are not popular nationally.
Include gun law reform in that approach.
The GOP faces many more issues than just having Turd at the top of the ticket.
Then Bidens approval rating should be over 50%
 
Some of the biggest Republican donors in the country will converge next month at the historic Cavalier Hotel in Virginia Beach for a two-day meeting to rally behind Gov. Glenn Youngkin. The closed gathering, named the “Red Vest Retreat” after the fleece Youngkin wore during his 2021 campaign, will begin Oct. 17 and be focused, officially, on the Republican effort to win full control of the General Assembly in Virginia’s upcoming elections. But unofficially, several donors tell me, it will be an opportunity for them to try to push, if not shove, Youngkin into the Republican presidential race.


Others say they will be busy prodding Youngkin and his allies in phone calls from afar. “He appears to be leaving the door open,” Thomas Peterffy, a billionaire who has already given millions of dollars to Youngkin’s PAC, told me this week. “And if Republicans win in Virginia, maybe we can talk him into it. He obviously wants to see what emerges, what the state of play is.



“The money would be there,” Peterffy assured me.
Drafting Youngkin as a last-minute addition to the sclerotic Republican presidential field is something that has lingered for months as a donor fantasy — a whispered, can-you-imagine gambit rarely meriting much discussion because there has been widespread hope that somebody, anybody, would gain traction against former president Donald Trump. But now, fantasy talk of an audacious, break-the-glass moment for the anti-Trump faction has morphed into not-so-quiet consideration.
Press Enter to skip to end of carousel


Wednesday’s debate in California likely did little to calm the restlessness felt by plugged-in Republicans desperate for an alternative to Trump. Even as some contenders understandably boast about a bounce, dissatisfaction with the field has become a refrain that will not abate.



The thirsting for Youngkin is not a well-orchestrated power play. It is the latest slapdash scheme in a long search for a standard-bearer and a portrait of the powerlessness so many Republicans feel as Trump plows ahead, shrugging off criminal indictments and outrage over rhetoric they fear is growing dark and dangerous.
After months of hearing mostly about Democratic concern about President Biden’s poll numbers or his age, it’s evident that a Republican panic is emerging from hibernation.
Donors and anti-Trump Republicans have been fixated on Youngkin for two years, since his 2021 election impressed them for how he was able to win support from Trump voters while keeping Trump himself at a distance. They also know a direct challenge to Trump would be politically brutal — and that late entries are logistically near-impossible.



Nevertheless, the anti-Trump Republicans carry on, in text messages and emails, and over meals at five-star hotels, talking to friends and megadonors about the need to be prepared to help Youngkin ramp up a robust national campaign. They want to be ready.
“I’m for whoever can beat Trump in the primary and, while I still think some of the current candidates can do this, I’d welcome Youngkin putting his oar in,” William P. Barr, Trump’s former attorney general, told me. “If the governor indicated he’d to it, I believe he would draw serious support and be a strong candidate,” Barr said.
Rupert Murdoch, the new chairman emeritus of Fox Corporation and News Corp., has encouraged Youngkin in at least two face-to-face meetings, as The Post reported last month. And Murdoch has continued to speak highly of a possible Youngkin campaign to colleagues, according to a person familiar with his comments.



“The search for other people is very real,” Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton told me, recounting how he went to Atlanta in August to try to recruit Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, who resisted Trump’s pressure campaign in the aftermath of the 2020 election. Bolton left unconvinced that Kemp would do it. “A lot of people put Youngkin in the category of a kind of fresh face who could make a difference,” he said. (Bolton hasn’t ruled out his own late run if others decide against it.)
Of course, many other donors and anti-Trump Republicans hope that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.) or former vice president Mike Pence, among others, could eventually pull even with Trump. But the experience of DeSantis has dampened spirits. If someone who thundered to national prominence couldn’t overtake Trump by now, who can?
“DeSantis has faltered and failed to meet expectations and donors know it,” Ed Rollins, Ronald Reagan’s former campaign manager, told me. “No one has a real opening right now, but people are trying to figure out what to do.”

Youngkin should target 2028.

No need to get involved in the 2024 shit show race....pick up the pieces in 2028.

Orange man will be on the trash heap of history by then and if Joe wins in 2024 President Kamala Harris will be extremely vulnerable.
 
He isn’t a threat. You guys have up control of your party to the nuts and the kooks. Normal Republicans don’t stand a chance.
relative to trump, he is (though if we ever got to that point, biden wouldn't be the d nominee, which might make him less so.
 
Youngkin should target 2028.

No need to get involved in the 2024 shit show race....pick up the pieces in 2028.

Orange man will be on the trash heap of history by then and if Joe wins in 2024 President Kamala Harris will be extremely vulnerable.
If Trump wins in 24. He still isn't leaving quietly in 28. He'll try to pull a Putin and remain in power directly or indirectly. The Republican establishment has never said no to his will. Why would they start now.
 
Then Bidens approval rating should be over 50%
Approval ratings are a bit meaningless if/when you have two unpopular candidates.
Turd is EASILY the most divisive person to ever run for President.
The 2024 general might come down to the lesser of two bad options, but the choice is still easy.

DJT isn't winning over a single voter that voted for Biden, imo.
And I still can't figure out if Biden vs Turd increases turnout or reduces turnout?
That's where women's right stances help the Dems/Biden.
 
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If Trump wins in 24. He still isn't leaving quietly in 28. He'll try to pull a Putin and remain in power directly or indirectly. The Republican establishment has never said no to his will. Why would they start now.
The Republican establishment said no to his will in 2020...Pence/Kemp come to mind. Jan 6 committee trotted out a bunch of Republicans that said no to his will. Bill Barr/ Esper...state attorney generals.
 
The Republican establishment said no to his will in 2020...Pence/Kemp come to mind. Jan 6 committee trotted out a bunch of Republicans that said no to his will. Bill Barr/ Esper...state attorney generals.
Still has to enforce the election results at the point of a gun. That doesn't sound like standing up to him. A hand full of Republicans said no. The majority of the party either supported him or kept quiet.
 
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Youngkin should target 2028.

No need to get involved in the 2024 shit show race....pick up the pieces in 2028.

Orange man will be on the trash heap of history by then and if Joe wins in 2024 President Kamala Harris will be extremely vulnerable.
The 2028 POTUS nomination contest will be wide open for both parties. Probably a dozen legitimate contenders from both parties. I don’t believe that Harris can be considered the front runner on the Dem side. Same for Younkin on the Republican side.
 
relative to trump, he is (though if we ever got to that point, biden wouldn't be the d nominee, which might make him less so.
Events like today’s should show us all that the GOP isn’t over Trump. Youngkin isn’t dumb. He isn’t jumping into this s*** show. Gaetz took down McCarthy in part at Trump’s bidding, after McCarthy bent the knee to Trump at MAL after 1/6.
Youngkin should fill out his term. Write a book. Pretend to be involved in some charitable works, and run in 2028.
 
Youngkin should target 2028.

No need to get involved in the 2024 shit show race....pick up the pieces in 2028.

Orange man will be on the trash heap of history by then and if Joe wins in 2024 President Kamala Harris will be extremely vulnerable.
Little Don will run in 2028.
 
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