Opinion Hey QAnon! Republicans are playing your song.

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At a Trump rally in Ohio on Saturday, the former president closed his speech to the strains of a melody widely associated with the QAnon conspiracy movement, which holds that the government is run by a secret cabal of satanic pedophiles.

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En masse, audience members fully extended their right arms and pointed their index fingers as Trump proclaimed them to be “one movement,” apparently echoing the name of the song they were hearing, “WWG1WGA” — an abbreviation of the QAnon slogan “where we go one, we go all."

Trump had used the same theme song earlier at a rally in Pennsylvania, and in a campaign video. He reposted an image of himself on his social media site in which he wore a “Q” lapel pin under the QAnon slogan, “The Storm is Coming” — one of dozens of QAnon-themed posts he has done lately.







He’s continuing to do this despite clear evidence that the paranoid madness (the QAnon fantasy ends in Trump’s opponents being executed) inspires violence. In Michigan this month, a man allegedly shot and killed his wife and dog and injured his daughter. Another daughter told the Detroit News that her father’s mental health had deteriorated as he fell deeper into “crazy ideas,” including QAnon, since the 2020 election.

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In Pennsylvania a few days later, a man wearing a clown wig took a loaded gun into a Dairy Queen, then told police he was armed to “kill Democrats and liberals” and “restore Trump to president king.” A Facebook account that apparently belongs to the man was steeped in QAnon craziness.
Trump’s spokesperson asserted that the rally melody (the one that prompted the one-finger salutes) wasn’t the QAnon anthem “WWG1WGA” — but rather a totally different song that just happens to sound exactly like it.



Right.
In a sense it doesn’t matter what melody Trump uses. He’s singing the QAnon lyrics — and MAGA Republicans are backing him up in four-part harmony.
Verse One:
Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin, once thought by some to offer a Republican alternative to Trumpism, is heading to Arizona next month to campaign for GOP gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, one of the most flamboyant election deniers in the country. As Politico’s Alex Isenstadt reported, Lake will be the “most MAGA-aligned candidate Youngkin has campaigned for.” Lake, in addition to referring to the 2020 election as the “big steal,” has associated her campaign with leading QAnon figures and has called for jailing her opponent.

Verse Two:
A new survey by The Post finds that in the 19 most closely watched senatorial and gubernatorial races this year, 12 of the Republican candidates (including Lake) have declined to say whether they will accept the election results. This shows that refusing to accept the will of the people is now a feature, not a bug, of the MAGA GOP.


Verse Three:
After failing to generate headlines by sending busloads of migrants to Washington’s Union Station, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott raised the level of cruelty by dumping the baffled migrants in a residential neighborhood of D.C., near the vice president’s residence. Abbott’s fellow Republican, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, raised the inhumanity still further, taking migrants who escaped political repression and economic desperation in Venezuela and flying them to Martha’s Vineyard — where DeSantis knew no safety net awaited them.

Fox News’s Tucker Carlson celebrated the migrants’ humiliation in a racist rant about “sweaty Third World campesinos” in “dirty work pants” who would have “an outdoor goat barbecue” on the island.
Verse Four:
DeSantis isn’t limiting his disdain to refugees from Venezuela’s dictatorship. He ran a campaign ad this month that featured Pastor Larry Jinks, who, as the Jewish publication Forward reported, posted earlier this year that “it’s a shame that the Jews, who should know better, reject their own Messiah.” Jinks objected to peace and unity among religions, saying Jesus taught Christians “to be at odds with any religion that does not acknowledge Jesus.”



Not to be outdone, Doug Mastriano, the Republican nominee for governor of Pennsylvania, held a rally with Texas evangelical leader Lance Wallnau, a self-proclaimed Christian nationalist who has voiced pro-Putin conspiracy beliefs.
Chorus:
Trump, even before the QAnon melody and salute at his rally Saturday, treated his fans to a full range of delusionary conspiracy notions.
“The FBI colluded with Russia.”
“We have a president who is cognitively impaired.”
“We won the election by a lot.”
“They spy on my campaign.”
Positively everybody was conspiring in the “persecution of the MAGA movement.” The “deep state.” “Racist” (that is, Black) prosecutors. “Menacing forces.” The “enemy-of-the-people” media. FBI agents who “break into” his home.
“A vile group of corrupt, power-hungry globalists, socialists and liberal extremists in Washington has been waging war on the hardworking people of Ohio,” Trump told them. “… Our biggest threat remains the sick, sinister and evil people from within our country.”
QAnon, he’s playing your song.

 
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What do our resident current or former Trump supporters think about all this QAnon elbow rubbing? We know he reposted a picture recently of him with a doctored Q lapel and the “Storm is Coming” image on Truth Social. We know this music is almost identical to the wwg1a-whatever bullshit these loonies believe. There are other reports that he is increasing the amount of Q-inspired reposting in his truth social postings or in rallies. Are these the acts of a desperate man trying to find relevance amongst a group of undesirables because he’s running out of options? Or a coordinated effort that will pay dividends in the long run?

What say you @abby97 @NorthernHawkeye @your_master5 @KFsdisciple @SIXERS24 @gonegolfing @Keehawk @The Tradition @goldmom @RNHawk @Titanhawk2 ?

Soz for any staunch GOP supporter I left off the list - feel free to add your thoughts if I missed you. Note I didn’t insult any of you - just noted your affiliation and asking your opinion. Unless of course you’re a Q - in that case you’re batshit.
 
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What do our resident current or former Trump supporters think about all this QAnon elbow rubbing? We know he reposted a picture recently of him with a doctored Q lapel and the “Storm is Coming” image on Truth Social. We know this music is almost identical to the wwg1a-whatever bullshit these loonies believe. There’s other reports that he is increasing the amount of Q-inspired reposting in his truth social postings or in rallies. Are these the acts of a desperate man trying to find relevance amongst a group of undesirables because he’s running out of options? Or a coordinated effort that will pay dividends in the long run?

What say you @abby97 @NorthernHawkeye @your_master5 @KFsdisciple @SIXERS24 @gonegolfing @Keehawk @The Tradition @goldmom @RNHawk @Titanhawk2 ?

Soz for any staunch GOP supporter I left off the list - feel free to add your thoughts if I missed you. Note I didn’t insult any of you - just noted your affiliation and asking your opinion. Unless of course you’re a Q - in that case you’re batshit.
I honestly don't know what to make of it. His true voter base isn't full of Q whackadoos, they're much closer to Bill Maher types on a lot of issues but are strong pro-lifers. I think he's playing or virtue signaling to the wrong group of people.
 

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At a Trump rally in Ohio on Saturday, the former president closed his speech to the strains of a melody widely associated with the QAnon conspiracy movement, which holds that the government is run by a secret cabal of satanic pedophiles.

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En masse, audience members fully extended their right arms and pointed their index fingers as Trump proclaimed them to be “one movement,” apparently echoing the name of the song they were hearing, “WWG1WGA” — an abbreviation of the QAnon slogan “where we go one, we go all."

Trump had used the same theme song earlier at a rally in Pennsylvania, and in a campaign video. He reposted an image of himself on his social media site in which he wore a “Q” lapel pin under the QAnon slogan, “The Storm is Coming” — one of dozens of QAnon-themed posts he has done lately.







He’s continuing to do this despite clear evidence that the paranoid madness (the QAnon fantasy ends in Trump’s opponents being executed) inspires violence. In Michigan this month, a man allegedly shot and killed his wife and dog and injured his daughter. Another daughter told the Detroit News that her father’s mental health had deteriorated as he fell deeper into “crazy ideas,” including QAnon, since the 2020 election.

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In Pennsylvania a few days later, a man wearing a clown wig took a loaded gun into a Dairy Queen, then told police he was armed to “kill Democrats and liberals” and “restore Trump to president king.” A Facebook account that apparently belongs to the man was steeped in QAnon craziness.
Trump’s spokesperson asserted that the rally melody (the one that prompted the one-finger salutes) wasn’t the QAnon anthem “WWG1WGA” — but rather a totally different song that just happens to sound exactly like it.



Right.
In a sense it doesn’t matter what melody Trump uses. He’s singing the QAnon lyrics — and MAGA Republicans are backing him up in four-part harmony.
Verse One:
Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin, once thought by some to offer a Republican alternative to Trumpism, is heading to Arizona next month to campaign for GOP gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, one of the most flamboyant election deniers in the country. As Politico’s Alex Isenstadt reported, Lake will be the “most MAGA-aligned candidate Youngkin has campaigned for.” Lake, in addition to referring to the 2020 election as the “big steal,” has associated her campaign with leading QAnon figures and has called for jailing her opponent.

Verse Two:
A new survey by The Post finds that in the 19 most closely watched senatorial and gubernatorial races this year, 12 of the Republican candidates (including Lake) have declined to say whether they will accept the election results. This shows that refusing to accept the will of the people is now a feature, not a bug, of the MAGA GOP.


Verse Three:
After failing to generate headlines by sending busloads of migrants to Washington’s Union Station, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott raised the level of cruelty by dumping the baffled migrants in a residential neighborhood of D.C., near the vice president’s residence. Abbott’s fellow Republican, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, raised the inhumanity still further, taking migrants who escaped political repression and economic desperation in Venezuela and flying them to Martha’s Vineyard — where DeSantis knew no safety net awaited them.

Fox News’s Tucker Carlson celebrated the migrants’ humiliation in a racist rant about “sweaty Third World campesinos” in “dirty work pants” who would have “an outdoor goat barbecue” on the island.
Verse Four:
DeSantis isn’t limiting his disdain to refugees from Venezuela’s dictatorship. He ran a campaign ad this month that featured Pastor Larry Jinks, who, as the Jewish publication Forward reported, posted earlier this year that “it’s a shame that the Jews, who should know better, reject their own Messiah.” Jinks objected to peace and unity among religions, saying Jesus taught Christians “to be at odds with any religion that does not acknowledge Jesus.”



Not to be outdone, Doug Mastriano, the Republican nominee for governor of Pennsylvania, held a rally with Texas evangelical leader Lance Wallnau, a self-proclaimed Christian nationalist who has voiced pro-Putin conspiracy beliefs.
Chorus:
Trump, even before the QAnon melody and salute at his rally Saturday, treated his fans to a full range of delusionary conspiracy notions.
“The FBI colluded with Russia.” - unknown
“We have a president who is cognitively impaired.” - True
“We won the election by a lot.” - unlikely.
“They spy on my campaign.” - True

Positively everybody was conspiring in the “persecution of the MAGA movement.” The “deep state.” “Racist” (that is, Black) prosecutors. “Menacing forces.” The “enemy-of-the-people” media. FBI agents who “break into” his home.
“A vile group of corrupt, power-hungry globalists, socialists and liberal extremists in Washington has been waging war on the hardworking people of Ohio,” Trump told them. “… Our biggest threat remains the sick, sinister and evil people from within our country.”
QAnon, he’s playing your song.

 

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I honestly don't know what to make of it. His true voter base isn't full of Q whackadoos, they're much closer to Bill Maher types on a lot of issues but are strong pro-lifers. I think he's playing or virtue signaling to the wrong group of people.

I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to align yourself with some of the most crazy people out there. This goes far beyond political posturing and policy. These people are nuts - or whackadoos as you call them. Unless you yourself (meaning Trump) are trending that direction - what benefit can possibly gained?
 

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I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to align yourself with some of the most crazy people out there. This goes far beyond political posturing and policy. These people are nuts - or whackadoos as you call them. Unless you yourself (meaning Trump) are trending that direction - what benefit can possibly gained?
None. That's the part I don't get. He's aligning himself with a fringe minority of people who were already going to vote for him. So strategically I don't think he gains anything from that kind of alliance, and in the meantime he's feeding narratives to the democrats and allowing people who simply want a secure border, moderate abortion restrictions, limited federal government, the traditional republican values as I see them to be lumped in with people who believe democrats and hollywood elites are drinking baby blood and are part of a human sex trafficking ring and that's the least crazy of their crazy beliefs.
 
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None. That's the part I don't get. He's aligning himself with a fringe minority of people who were already going to vote for him. So strategically I don't think he gains anything from that kind of alliance, and in the meantime he's feeding narratives to the democrats and allowing people who simply want a secure border, moderate abortion restrictions, limited federal government, the traditional republican values as I see them to be lumped in with people who believe democrats and hollywood elites are drinking baby blood and are part of a human sex trafficking ring and that's the least crazy of their crazy beliefs.
What "traditional Republican values" would you say Trump embodies?
 

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I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to align yourself with some of the most crazy people out there. This goes far beyond political posturing and policy. These people are nuts - or whackadoos as you call them. Unless you yourself (meaning Trump) are trending that direction - what benefit can possibly gained?

Dude, he's a trolll
 

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None. That's the part I don't get. He's aligning himself with a fringe minority of people who were already going to vote for him. So strategically I don't think he gains anything from that kind of alliance, and in the meantime he's feeding narratives to the democrats and allowing people who simply want a secure border, moderate abortion restrictions, limited federal government, the traditional republican values as I see them to be lumped in with people who believe democrats and hollywood elites are drinking baby blood and are part of a human sex trafficking ring and that's the least crazy of their crazy beliefs.
You just described Chaney and Kinzinger.

That's not the beliefs of your party's leadership.
 

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You just described Chaney and Kinzinger.

That's not the beliefs of your party's leadership.
I just described the republican voters, not necessarily the jack asses in DC. These are the people who live next door to you, that work at the same place you do, who don't go home and put on tin foil hats, and don't believe in most of the crazy... Do they have questions about how votes were tallied or how ballots were cast in the last election? Probably. Are they likely to want to descend on the capitol? Not likely.
 

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The ones I mentioned. He seems to be for a strong border, energy independence, lowered taxes, he claims to be pro-life...
The man is nothing but a grifter that will tell you whatever you want to hear. If you believe a single word Donald Trump utters, I apologize for your poor education system that didn't teach you critical thinking skills. He only ever used border security as a dog whistle for people afraid of brown people, he never had any intention of actually doing anything about it. Same with energy independence. His "lowered taxes" only lowered them temporarily, until the increases written into the bill kick in, then it's just another tax cut for the rich subsidized by the middle class. And Trump is not pro-life, I 100% guarantee he'd pay for an abortion if it kept one of his prostitutes out of the media, that's just another lie he tells you because it makes knuckleheads nod their head and say, "Yeah, this guy's for real."
 

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The man is nothing but a grifter that will tell you whatever you want to hear. If you believe a single word Donald Trump utters, I apologize for your poor education system that didn't teach you critical thinking skills. He only ever used border security as a dog whistle for people afraid of brown people, he never had any intention of actually doing anything about it. Same with energy independence. His "lowered taxes" only lowered them temporarily, until the increases written into the bill kick in, then it's just another tax cut for the rich subsidized by the middle class. And Trump is not pro-life, I 100% guarantee he'd pay for an abortion if it kept one of his prostitutes out of the media, that's just another lie he tells you because it makes knuckleheads nod their head and say, "Yeah, this guy's for real."
I don't know the man, so I can't and won't speak for his integrity or lack of.
 

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Yeah, if only there was some evidence on recorded media of things that he's said or done.
I get it, you have hatred in your heart for the guy... I really think you should move on though, he's been out of office almost 2 years, celebrate all the great accomplishments of the current administration like the overturning of Roe.
 

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None. That's the part I don't get. He's aligning himself with a fringe minority of people who were already going to vote for him. So strategically I don't think he gains anything from that kind of alliance, and in the meantime he's feeding narratives to the democrats and allowing people who simply want a secure border, moderate abortion restrictions, limited federal government, the traditional republican values as I see them to be lumped in with people who believe democrats and hollywood elites are drinking baby blood and are part of a human sex trafficking ring and that's the least crazy of their crazy beliefs.

I have news for you - they are not fringe in the GOP.
 

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I get it, you have hatred in your heart for the guy... I really think you should move on though, he's been out of office almost 2 years, celebrate all the great accomplishments of the current administration like the overturning of Roe.

He has an iron grip on the GOP and is the presumptive 2024 Presidential candidate. Your post is stupid.
 

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I get it, you have hatred in your heart for the guy... I really think you should move on though, he's been out of office almost 2 years, celebrate all the great accomplishments of the current administration like the overturning of Roe.
He is holding rallies where he gets fans to scream in fury when he tells them a lie that the election was stolen from them. It's hard to move on from a guy who is whipping the crazies up into a frenzy.
Why is Trump going Q? This is a fertile group to fleece, and in the Q folk he's found people willing to love him unconditionally, and who will kill for him.
 

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He is holding rallies where he gets fans to scream in fury when he tells them a lie that the election was stolen from them. It's hard to move on from a guy who is whipping the crazies up into a frenzy.
Why is Trump going Q? This is a fertile group to fleece, and in the Q folk he's found people willing to love him unconditionally, and who will kill for him.
Put the troll on ignore.
 

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I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to align yourself with some of the most crazy people out there. This goes far beyond political posturing and policy. These people are nuts - or whackadoos as you call them. Unless you yourself (meaning Trump) are trending that direction - what benefit can possibly gained?
Because he's a narcissistic maniac before anything else. This largely overrides any other consideration in his decision making process.

This is why he's completely unacceptable as a leader.

He's made for them and they're made for him. Symbiotic idiocy.
 

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I've done my part here, i've given my fair and honest assessment of the situation.

You actually did give a fair assessment. And you were the only one. Kudos brospeh.

However, if a former lib president of the United States were giving props to say….Jesus I don’t know a lib equivalent of Q….but let’s say Soros and you were a dem - would you vote for him? Phuck, I don’t know, because there’s nothing quite as crazy as Q on the dem side with the momentum Q has for the repubbers. A lot of the folk in your party say yes. That’s troublesome IMHO.
 
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You actually did give a fair assessment. And you were the only one. Kudos brospeh.

However, if a former lib president of the United States were giving props to say….Jesus I don’t know a lib equivalent of Q….but let’s say Soros and you were a dem - would you vote for him? Phuck, I don’t know, because there’s nothing quite as crazy as Q on the dem side with the momentum Q has for the repubbers. A lot of the folk in your party say yes. That’s troublesome IMHO.
The only possible explanation I can give that makes any sense to me is that’s it’s similar (but not the same) to the democrats who go hard left during the primaries but always move toward the center once nominated. So at this point in the process you see Trump going to the far extreme right but would likely try to distance himself closer to 2024? That’s just a guess.
 

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I hear he called you out during his speech! Said he couldn’t wait for the chis Twitter post