I disagree with a majority of Americans but I'll definitely agree with 35-40 pct don't GAF about anyone but themselves and their inner circle
Opinion: How many more have to die before the GOP rethinks its opposition to gun control?
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Well since we live in the US I'm telling you they do go hand in hand.
Everybody needs to read this and stop perpetuating stigma against those that are mentally ill.
psychiatryonline.org
Common Misperceptions:
“Mass shootings by people with serious mental illness represent the most significant relationship between gun violence and mental illness.”
Evidence Based Facts:
“Mass shootings by people with serious mental illness represent less than 1% of all yearly gun-related homicides.”
”The overall contribution of people with serious mental illness to violent crimes is only about 3%. When these crimes are examined in detail, an even smaller percentage of them are found to involve firearms.”
“Laws intended to reduce gun violence that focus on a population representing less than 3% of all gun violence will be extremely low yield, ineffective, and wasteful of scarce resources. Perpetrators of mass shootings are unlikely to have a history of involuntary psychiatric hospitalization. Thus, databases intended to restrict access to guns and established by guns laws that broadly target people with mental illness will not capture this group of individuals.”
“Gun restriction laws focusing on people with mental illness perpetuate the myth that mental illness leads to violence, as well as the mis- perception that gun violence and mental illness are strongly linked. Stigma represents a major barrier to access and treatment of mental illness, which in turn increases the public health burden.”
Psychiatry Online
psychiatryonline.org
Common Misperceptions:
“Mass shootings by people with serious mental illness represent the most significant relationship between gun violence and mental illness.”
Evidence Based Facts:
“Mass shootings by people with serious mental illness represent less than 1% of all yearly gun-related homicides.”
”The overall contribution of people with serious mental illness to violent crimes is only about 3%. When these crimes are examined in detail, an even smaller percentage of them are found to involve firearms.”
“Laws intended to reduce gun violence that focus on a population representing less than 3% of all gun violence will be extremely low yield, ineffective, and wasteful of scarce resources. Perpetrators of mass shootings are unlikely to have a history of involuntary psychiatric hospitalization. Thus, databases intended to restrict access to guns and established by guns laws that broadly target people with mental illness will not capture this group of individuals.”
“Gun restriction laws focusing on people with mental illness perpetuate the myth that mental illness leads to violence, as well as the mis- perception that gun violence and mental illness are strongly linked. Stigma represents a major barrier to access and treatment of mental illness, which in turn increases the public health burden.”
Lol, yes, there is no denying that.
EDIT: I want to be clear, though, a small percentage of mentally ill people are violent and even fewer ever attain firearms. Also, people with mental illnesses are far more likely to be the victims of violence than perpetrators. And very importantly, less than four percent if all violent crimes in the U.S. are committed by people who have been diagnosed as mentally ill. And the problem is most seriously the lack of funding for helping people with mental illnesses. Families of people with mentally ill family members reach out to everyone they can for help, but the best types of care aren't covered by private or government health insurance. So the warnings are often there in communities where a mentally ill person commits a crime, but the mental health organizations are underfunded, undertrained, and bound by very strange laws and policies that seemed designed to spend as little money as possible rather than treating illnesses. So we're to blame for all of these mass shootings. Mass shootings are just one of many harmful unintended consequences if our societal lack of compassion and action to help the most in need.
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So I purchased a new Pistol yesterday. At a very very busy gun shop. There is a bunch of paperwork and a back round check. What a pain but I was OK with it. As the owner and I talked it was obvious he was following every aspect of the law. But even he admitted the criminals are going to get guns legally or illegally. He did mention Democrats are great for business.
This is an issue where there can surely be a compromise between the loons on both sides.
Why anyone would be against background checks is beyond me.
Why anyone would be against background checks is beyond me.
How about we start prosecuting people under the existing law that makes it a felony to lie on the background check form. Does anyone here object to that? Whether or not there's any jail time, a conviction will prohibit the person from getting through the background check in the future.
Max Boot is a frigging loon. There hasn't been a war in the past 40 years that he has not fervently promoted on behalf of the MIC. Blood is on his hands as much as the person pulling the trigger.
The big problem is that current policies are not being enforced in many cases. I do think there needs to be stricter policies in terms of buying guns at gun shows etc. I question the use of selling AR-15's, also. Even so, that doesn't stop most of the mass shootings as those involve regular guns or rifles. What needs to happen is that we need to enforce the laws that currently exist and have very stiff penalties when those laws are broken.
The problem is that the debate has become, especially on the right, that if you’re for any level of gun control, you are automatically anti-2nd amendment.
You mean the same select persons always chosen by the MSM because they'll ALWAYS be reliable for fanatical NRA mouthpiece quotes?
Did you not see Ted Cruz or Graham over the past week? or the various NRA spokesmen? You do know that‘s Who is made available to media outlets for interviews? I don’t remember the last time a serious gun control measure was proposed by the GOP.
not to mention the election tradition of ads telling us that the left is coming for our guns.
