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Opinion Trump is hardly libertarian. But neither is today’s Libertarian Party.

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Peter Goettler is president and chief executive of the Cato Institute.
We know by now that Donald Trump likes nothing better than stepping onto a stage, hearing his name chanted by an adoring crowd, and flashing his familiar thumbs-up sign. This week, the former president will do just that under the bright lights at the Libertarian National Convention in D.C.


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It will be the first time in U.S. history that a presidential candidate of a rival party will address the convention of a party that is presumably gathering to nominate its own candidate. And this strange turn of events has many libertarians scratching their heads.
With a razor-thin electoral college contest in the offing this November, it’s clear that any play for incremental support is worth Trump’s effort and could make the difference. But what’s in it for the National Libertarian Party? The answer, unfortunately, reveals the truth about today’s party: It’s hardly libertarian anymore.



Libertarianism, at its core, is the modern manifestation of classical liberalism, the transformative movement that, beginning in the 18th century, challenged monarchs, autocrats, mercantilism, caste society, slavery and religious persecution. As heirs to that tradition, libertarians believe in individual freedom, equality under the law, pluralism, toleration, free speech, freedom of religion, government by consent of the governed, the rule of law, private property, free markets and limited constitutional government.
I often hear people say that many Americans are libertarians without even realizing it. But few would count Trump as one. As president, Trump did several things in economic and foreign policy that any libertarian can support, such as signing the 2017 tax cuts and rejecting military adventurism overseas.

But the list of Trump policies and postures that libertarians oppose is long and dangerous. He allowed government spending and debt to continue to spiral upward, increasing the national debt by $8.4 trillion. Federal outlays soared from $4 trillion his first year (2017) to $6.8 trillion in his last year. He persists in railing against immigration and free trade, supports further expansion of presidential power and seeks to crack down on political enemies. The Libertarian Party itself said it best in a 2018 statement: “Whatever libertarian impulses Trump the candidate seemed to have … his actual performance as president stands in stark contrast.”



Of course, both the Republican and Democratic parties share an addiction to executive power. And neither is above using extralegal means to accomplish policy objectives, as demonstrated by President Biden’s brazen efforts to cancel student loan debt. And, of course, the supreme example is the Capitol riot of Jan. 6, 2021, a tragic event that celebrated a total disregard for the peaceful transfer of power and constitutional order. Libertarians know that the Constitution and the rule of law are essential elements in keeping government power constrained.
In truth, Trump’s appearance this week says as much about the Libertarian Party as it does about him. The party has had its ups and downs and some embarrassing moments throughout its history. But its problems more often arose from amateurism and fractiousness rather than malice, the inevitable effect of being a small third party in a two-party system.

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But today’s party leadership has been taken over by a faction that places it well outside the bounds of libertarianism altogether and appears comfortable with right-wing authoritarianism. Some tweets issued from state libertarian parties and other libertarian operators can only be described as shockingly racist or antisemitic — the Libertarian Party of Michigan, for instance, posted a cartoon portraying Jews as puppet masters of the Democratic and Republican parties — and would be more welcome on the alt-right than among true libertarians.



This is not what traditional libertarians represent and it isn’t aligned with the position of most Americans. And with the two-party duopoly stacking the deck against true political competition in our country, Americans are making it clear they’ve had enough. Quietly, they’re moving the United States in a more libertarian direction in many important areas, such as foreign policy (only 57 percent of Americans in 2023 believed America should take an “active part” in foreign affairs, compared with 71 percent in 2002), drug legalization, and the inspiring expansion of school choice and educational freedom for children and parents across the country. It’s too bad the party is not participating in this peaceful revolution, instead choosing to focus primarily on culture war issues.
The founding principles of our nation that libertarians believe in — life, liberty and private property — are frequently at risk of being dismantled by government action. Standing up for those principles in an increasingly polarized and rancorous political environment is a lonely struggle. It’s about to get lonelier now that the political party pretending to be libertarian has transitioned to a different identity. It should at least have the decency to change its name, too.
 
There are 2 main issues with the Libertarian Party.

The first is immigration policy. Open borders is a theoretical dream, but not practical.

Second is there's no united stance on anything else. Some Libertarians support an almost anarchy approach, others combine federalism with libertarianism, and others are really just GOP that want to distance themselves from Trump GOP.

As the article correctly points out, Trump is far from Libertarian (and even GOP) in quite a few notable ways.

I mostly fit in the second category. At it's core, Libertarianism is about people being free to do what they want, as long as they don't cause harm or proximate harm to others. Libertarians generally believe in small government, especially at the federal level. Libertarians really need to learn there's a practical side though. There needs to be borders. There needs to be a safety net for those who aren't capable of taking care of themselves, but perhaps more at the state level.

Libertarian candidates haven't put themselves in the national conversation or spotlight enough. There's little leadership. There's almost no visibility. Making issues like legalization of drugs be most important kind of diminishes the seriousness of the party.
 
There are 2 main issues with the Libertarian Party.

The first is immigration policy. Open borders is a theoretical dream, but not practical.

Second is there's no united stance on anything else. Some Libertarians support an almost anarchy approach, others combine federalism with libertarianism, and others are really just GOP that want to distance themselves from Trump GOP.

As the article correctly points out, Trump is far from Libertarian (and even GOP) in quite a few notable ways.

I mostly fit in the second category. At it's core, Libertarianism is about people being free to do what they want, as long as they don't cause harm or proximate harm to others. Libertarians generally believe in small government, especially at the federal level. Libertarians really need to learn there's a practical side though. There needs to be borders. There needs to be a safety net for those who aren't capable of taking care of themselves, but perhaps more at the state level.

Libertarian candidates haven't put themselves in the national conversation or spotlight enough. There's little leadership. There's almost no visibility. Making issues like legalization of drugs be most important kind of diminishes the seriousness of the party.

The anarchy wing of the libertarian party do a lot of damage from them being taken seriously. I saw a video I think of 2020 presidential debates between the candidates trying to get the libertarian nomination and they debated some crazy ass stuff. Like one of the things they debated was "should driver's licenses be a thing" . . . and quite a few of the candidates said no, that we shouldn't need the government's permission to drive a car.
 
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...and the inspiring expansion of school choice and educational freedom for children and parents across the country.
LOL...Inspiring? Tell us you're a partisan hack without typing it.

That's as non-libertarian as it's possible to be. Using public tax dollars to support a private entity over which the general public has zero control, and which is unaccountable to that public? Uh huh...inspiring.
 
What a straw man story.

Neither party has ever been libertarian.

The GOP wants to control your body and the DEMS want to control your wallet.

No one in power cares about freedom and liberty.
 
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Best description I've ever heard to describe libertarians is that they're like cats. They think they're fiercely independent while being completely ignorant of the system that takes care of them.

You apparently think feral cats don't exist.
 
The anarchy wing of the libertarian party do a lot of damage from them being taken seriously. I saw a video I think of 2020 presidential debates between the candidates trying to get the libertarian nomination and they debated some crazy ass stuff. Like one of the things they debated was "should driver's licenses be a thing" . . . and quite a few of the candidates said no, that we shouldn't need the government's permission to drive a car.
And who is the government to tell us which side of the road to drive on?
 
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So libertarians could make it on their own rather than mooching off the system. They choose not to do so. At least they are consistent in their fealty to their principles.

Libertarian is shorthand for "fcvking fruitcake".
 
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Well, that's silly.

However, I think it makes more sense to tax the people who use the roads instead of taxing EVERYONE so they have money to build roads.

That's just one example of non-crazy libertarian thought.
That's not a libertarian thought.

The libertarian approach would be for all roads to be private toll roads.
 
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